I have not had the pleasure to try a real NY pie. We have 3 places in town that sell that style. Mario's claim it, but they have two sizes, 14" and 16". We have all the chain stuff. Mazzio's is pretty popular. It's thin, but a little dense and chewy. We have a couple of places that sell Neapolitan style, and they are pretty good. I think most people in these parts think good pizzas are Papa Johns, Dominos, Ci, Ci's, Mazzio's, Papa Murphy's, and Pizza Hut. All of those places have crusts that seem too bread like and not crispy or thin. We have a new place I have not tried yet, it sells Chicago thin and deep crust pizzas. I think most people here have no idea what a good pie should taste like. I'm not so sure I do either. But, I like my pies better than the chain ones. I'm no great pie maker by any stretch of the imagination, it's just an indication how blah the pizzas are here.