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“Seitan isn’t a meat replacement, it’s a food stuff in its own right. Some of our happiest moments are when we get a meat eater who says, ‘You know what, this stuff is great. I didn’t realize vegetarian meat could be this good.’”

Meet Chris Kim and Rebecca Lopez-Howes, the co-owners and seitan specialists behind Monk’s Meats, a vegetarian butcher shop – with plans to open a storefront – in Brooklyn, New York

http://foodcurated.com/2013/04/monks-meats-a-vegetarian-butcher-makes-a-case-for-wheat-meat/ 

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I never tried Seitan, or even heard of Seitan before, but would be interested in trying to make a small batch if someone has a good recipe that they have tried.  I didn't know wheat flour/or wheat gluten could be used to make a meat-like product.  To me, Monk’s Seitan looks good, but I don’t really understand how it is made.

Did any member ever taste any good Seitan, and if they did what did it taste like?

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Edit:  If any member is interested in looking at the video I think it can be accessed by clicking on the link under the video.
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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2013, 10:16:53 AM »
It is similar to tofu in the respect that it will take on what ever flavor you give it. Get some vital wheat gluten, mix it, slice it and poach in a broth, can be eaten like that or then fried, used, stews etc. Weird stuff, I like it

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2013, 10:27:35 AM »
I hadn't heard of it before.  Thanks for posting that Norma.  As a meat eater, I am definitely open to new meat alternatives.  Would love to try some of it.  Looks like it has great texture. 

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 10:31:17 AM »
I never tried Seitan, or even heard of Seitan before,

Little did you know that you were making it every time you did a wet gluten mass test.  :-D

Now that you know what it is, do you think you'll try cooking your wet gluten?
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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 11:09:12 AM »
It is similar to tofu in the respect that it will take on what ever flavor you give it. Get some vital wheat gluten, mix it, slice it and poach in a broth, can be eaten like that or then fried, used, stews etc. Weird stuff, I like it

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Thanks for posting it is similar to tofu in that it will take on the flavor of whatever is put it in.  I need a good recipe first before I am going to try it though.

I am glad to hear you like it.  It does look like weird stuff to me.  :-D

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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 11:10:17 AM »
I hadn't heard of it before.  Thanks for posting that Norma.  As a meat eater, I am definitely open to new meat alternatives.  Would love to try some of it.  Looks like it has great texture.

Chau,

I am a meat eater too, but am also open to trying new meat alternatives.

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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 11:12:29 AM »
Little did you know that you were making it every time you did a wet gluten mass test.  :-D

Now that you know what it is, do you think you'll try cooking your wet gluten?

Craig,

I guess you are right in little did I know that every time I did a wet gluten test I could have tried making some of that stuff.   :-D

I don't know how to go about trying to cook the wet gluten.  :-\ I have read up on it more first.

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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 11:16:29 AM »
I've had Seitan a few times... overall, not a fan of it.  It may be that I haven't had good preparations of it so I'd be willing to try more, but I haven't been impressed with it yet.

Never thought to try to make my own... thanks for the reference, Norma!  May be interesting to try sometime...

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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 11:44:38 AM »
I've had Seitan a few times... overall, not a fan of it.  It may be that I haven't had good preparations of it so I'd be willing to try more, but I haven't been impressed with it yet.

Never thought to try to make my own... thanks for the reference, Norma!  May be interesting to try sometime...

Derrick,

Thanks for posting that you did try Seitan a few times, but overall weren’t a fan of it.  I think Monk’s Seitan looked good.  I guess the thing to do next is try to find a good recipe and see what happens.

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 06:02:39 PM »
Get thee behind me Seitan!  :-D

In my 6 years as a vegan, I ate a LOT of Seitan, and I do not miss it.  It depends on how you flavor it, but it reminds me a bit of chewy dense turkey stuffing with a wet cardboardy flavor note.  Now that I think about it, this is probably why I learned to loathe VWG so much. I can't recall which, but some of the commercial fake meats make it somewhat palatable- far more than homemade.  If you live near a Whole Foods or a Trader Joes, they should have a good selection of fake meat. Some will be tofu based, but some will be wheat.

I was actually watching a British science show called Bang Goes the Theory where they profiled a scientist who made meat flavoring from the individual chemicals that comprise it. I immediately thought about possible vegetarian applications.
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Re: Monk’s Meats: A Vegetarian Butcher Makes a Case for Wheat Meat
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 07:38:20 PM »
Get thee behind me Seitan!  :-D

In my 6 years as a vegan, I ate a LOT of Seitan, and I do not miss it.  It depends on how you flavor it, but it reminds me a bit of chewy dense turkey stuffing with a wet cardboardy flavor note.  Now that I think about it, this is probably why I learned to loathe VWG so much. I can't recall which, but some of the commercial fake meats make it somewhat palatable- far more than homemade.  If you live near a Whole Foods or a Trader Joes, they should have a good selection of fake meat. Some will be tofu based, but some will be wheat.

I was actually watching a British science show called Bang Goes the Theory where they profiled a scientist who made meat flavoring from the individual chemicals that comprise it. I immediately thought about possible vegetarian applications.

Scott,

I thought you probably would not like Seitan, since you don’t like VWG, but I don’t mind VWG.

Maybe Seitan changed since you were on a vegan diet in the ways people have learned to prepare Seitan.   

I did purchase some things to try and made some Seitan over the weekend and have more ingredients in my cupboard.  >:D I saw what looked like might good recipes for Seitan on Google images.  I am still trying to decide whether to bake, or slow simmer the Seitan. 

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 08:56:41 PM »
Norma, try this link for a start...

http://vegandad.blogspot.com/search/label/seitan

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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 09:06:46 PM »
Norma, try this link for a start...

http://vegandad.blogspot.com/search/label/seitan

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Thanks so much for the link to the Seitan recipes!

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 10:10:49 PM »
Texturally I find it a weird chewy cross breed of dense dumpling, noodle, meat something that you can't quite put your finger on....but I kept eating so I guess I like it. But I'm pretty open to new stuff :-D
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 08:27:52 AM »
Texturally I find it a weird chewy cross breed of dense dumpling, noodle, meat something that you can't quite put your finger on....but I kept eating so I guess I like it. But I'm pretty open to new stuff :-D

Jon,

Thanks for posting what you thought the texture was like of Seitan.  Good to hear you did think you like the taste of it though.  It does sound kind of weird to me.

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2013, 10:55:52 AM »
Very cool, thanks for posting.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2013, 12:09:39 PM »
Very cool, thanks for posting.

Willard,

Anytime, now to see if there can be good Seitan can be made.   :-D

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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2013, 12:17:13 PM »
Well, the first batch of Seitan is in the oven to see if I might like it.  I used November’s #2 recipe for tomato sauce to start out with and added other ingredients. I also used a half of a fresh squeezed lemon and other modifications.  Two of the lemons seeds must have slipped into the mixture, but I took them out.  I also used fresh garlic and fresh onion grated.  I liked the part of kneading the Seitan.

At least it smells good while it is baking.

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2013, 01:16:54 PM »
This is how the Seitan looked right out of the oven, and now while it is cooling.

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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2013, 01:25:40 PM »
Looks like you have got it :chef:
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