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New Project in Brazil
« on: April 13, 2013, 06:08:14 PM »
Hi Guys,

I've been away from the board because of my new project, a Neapolitan pizzeria here in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Here are some pics of the oven build.
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Re: New Project in Brazil
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 06:18:37 PM »
Congratulations on getting the project off the ground. Will it be a pizza only place, or will you serve other items as well?
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 06:28:34 PM »
Do you know the thermal conductivity of the floor tiles you are using? 
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 11:20:30 PM »
That is awesome brother. I can't wait to see and hear more!
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2013, 01:13:16 AM »
Wow that looks great! Nice job. I'm curious about the brick as well... from pictures I've seen it looks a lot more like the brick used in the Acunto ovens which is quite a bit different than the firebrick used here in the USA. If you have any information you can share on it, I'd love to know!

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2013, 05:14:31 AM »
Good for you bro!


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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2013, 07:28:42 AM »
Thanks Guys! every post here helped me get to this point!

Congratulations on getting the project off the ground. Will it be a pizza only place, or will you serve other items as well?

only pizza and some fried antipasto

Do you know the thermal conductivity of the floor tiles you are using? 

Close to the biscotto sorrentino 0.7 W/m*K made with magnesita instead of alumina

Wow that looks great! Nice job. I'm curious about the brick as well... from pictures I've seen it looks a lot more like the brick used in the Acunto ovens which is quite a bit different than the firebrick used here in the USA. If you have any information you can share on it, I'd love to know!

the bricks are made with alumina, but have a burned brick mixture, ill try to find some info online and share

That is awesome brother. I can't wait to see and hear more!
Good for you bro!


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thank Matt and Craig! will share all the buldind info here!
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2013, 07:38:51 AM »
Keep us posted how the progress goes. Next time I'm in SP I'll have to stop by. (I'm in BH).
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2013, 08:01:36 AM »
you are more than welcome! please let me know.
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Re: New Project in Brazil
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2013, 09:36:15 AM »
Hi Andre,

That oven looks great. I look forward to seeing your progress, and wish you huge success!

Kind regards.

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2013, 10:03:03 AM »
thanks Barry!
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Re: New Project in Brazil
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 11:20:08 AM »
Andre,

I am also enjoying your build and look forward to your future posts.  Wishing you the best!

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2013, 11:32:39 AM »
Andre,

Will this be your pizzeria, as an owner? Either way, best of luck to you.

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2013, 11:34:15 AM »
That's awesome Andre, most larger tiles in the states are medium or high duty which could lead to issues in a low dome oven.  Obviously you've got it all covered, can't wait to see where you go from here!
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2013, 12:09:16 PM »
Andre,

I am also enjoying your build and look forward to your future posts.  Wishing you the best!

Norma

thanks Norma!
Andre,

Will this be your pizzeria, as an owner? Either way, best of luck to you.

Peter

This will be my own place, i am also consulting for a new place near Sao Paulo (30 minutes by car) all Neapolitan with 2 SF ovens. Thanks for the wishes Peter!
That's awesome Andre, most larger tiles in the states are medium or high duty which could lead to issues in a low dome oven.  Obviously you've got it all covered, can't wait to see where you go from here!

thanks Jeff, ill keep everyone updated here on this post
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2013, 04:44:07 PM »
Nice, congrats Andre. Keep us updated.

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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 05:28:14 PM »
Nice, congrats Andre. Keep us updated.

thanks!
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2013, 08:51:50 PM »
Congrats Andre, Bound to happen sooner or later  ;)  with Passion comes a desire to share the goodness ! and thats what you will soon be doing .. The build looks great!  Keep Posting the progress please! I am  very excited for you ! Next stop Rio  !
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2013, 08:53:30 PM »
Congrats Andre, Bound to happen sooner or later  ;)  with Passion comes a desire to share the goodness ! and thats what you will soon be doing .. The build looks great!  Keep Posting the progress please! I am  very excited for you ! Next stop Rio  !
John

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Re: New Project in Brazil
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 07:58:59 AM »
Hi Guys,

Well, i think i am almost ready for the first test pies... these pics are from the 3rd fire (to cure the oven), this week i will take the oven to full blast...

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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 09:58:36 AM »
That is awesome!! May I ask, what kind of firewood is available to you there in Brazil and how to you get it?

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 10:17:03 AM »
That is awesome!! May I ask, what kind of firewood is available to you there in Brazil and how to you get it?

Thanks!

the wood thats is available is eucalyptus, i get it from a distributor, i live in Sao Paulo, its a very big city, so everything comes from a distributor here...
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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 10:45:39 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply, Andre. I can't wait to see some of your works of art come out of your new oven!

May I also ask, do you have any/many competitors, as far as pizza goes, in your area? Are there any of those big American chains in Sao Paulo? I don't think they have a chance anymore if they're gonna compete with good WFO pies, but just wondering. :)

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 10:53:29 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply, Andre. I can't wait to see some of your works of art come out of your new oven!

May I also ask, do you have any/many competitors, as far as pizza goes, in your area? Are there any of those big American chains in Sao Paulo? I don't think they have a chance anymore if they're gonna compete with good WFO pies, but just wondering. :)

Pizza is very big here in Sao Paulo, we are the second city that most received Italian immigrants in the 1900's, so there is allot of WFO pizza places, but Neapolitan pizza is a new thing here, and i want to be part of this new trend and catch it in the beginning... i also prefer the neapolitan style, as the pizza here is more of a hybrid between neapolitan and adaptations done at the beginning of last century.

From WIKI

São Paulo has 6,000 pizza establishments and 1.4 million pizzas are consumed daily.[18] It is said that the first Brazilian pizzas were baked in the Brás district of São Paulo in the early part of the 20th century. Until the 1950s, they were only found in the Italian communities. Since then, pizza became increasingly popular among the rest of the population. The most traditional pizzerias are still found in the Italian neighborhoods, such as Bexiga (official name: Bela Vista). Both Neapolitan (thick crust) and Roman (thin crust) varieties are common in Brazil, with traditional versions using tomato sauce and mozzarella as a base. Brazilian pizza in general, though, tends to have less tomato sauce than the Italian version, or uses slices of tomato in place of sauce. Brazilian pizzerias offer also Brazilian variants such as "pizza com catupiry". July 10 is "Pizza Day" in São Paulo, marking the final day of an annual competition among "pizzaiolos". In Brazil, pizza quatro queijos (pizza quattro formaggi) uses mozzarella, provolone, parmesan and gorgonzola, and there is also a variety with five cheeses, which adds catupiry.
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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2013, 06:12:19 PM »
Congrats man! I wish you the very best for this project!


 

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