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Offline pie eye

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Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« on: April 17, 2013, 05:44:44 PM »
Supposedly brick-lined, gas-fired. Pics I've seen don't seem to have any manufacturer name plate. Has a door like a coal fired. Is this some sort of custom oven?

I know Paulie G knows, but he's a bit busy to read these posts anymore...........

Thanks for any info- Pie Eye


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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 06:21:13 PM »
I was only there once, about a year and a few months ago. I had some pics but can't find them now. Brick lined, for sure. I don't know if it resembles a coal fired oven or not. I was intrigued by the gas pipe going into the oven. It was like a 1.5-2" pipe with flame coming out with no regulator that I could see. Curiously, they apparently throw salt down on the deck before launching the pie. Ours was a bit too salty, but overall a great pizza, IMO. Paulie likes them well done there.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 07:55:01 PM »
Pie Eye,

I linked an article about the New Parkís pizza oven at Reply 25 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,19848.msg195134.html#msg195134 but that link isnít working anymore. 

I took some photos of New Parkís oven at Reply 253 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,17885.msg175833.html#msg175833 and also at Reply 255 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,17885.msg175835.html#msg175835
Like Steve, I was intrigued by the big gas pipe going into the oven.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 09:20:17 PM »
To the people that have been there,
does that gas fired tube run continuously or is there some temperature control that switches it on/off ?

I have a gas burner which could be utilized in a similar way.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 09:34:06 PM »
This is the Wayback Machine link for the article that Norma mentioned:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080725074024/http://www.pmq.com/mag/2004september_october/lastingimpressions.php

As sometimes happens with articles at the Wayback Machine, photos are not shown.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 09:38:41 PM »
It looks like a "portable" coal fired oven converted to gas.  I can't find the name of the manufacturer, but have ran across it in the past, I believe they started making them in the 30's.  Looks pretty similar to the oven they use at Totonno's and John's of Bleecker.
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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 10:00:18 PM »
To the people that have been there,
does that gas fired tube run continuously or is there some temperature control that switches it on/off ?

I have a gas burner which could be utilized in a similar way.

L

Lenny,

I didnít keep watching the oven to see if the gas runs continuously, but there sure were lots of flames.  Steve and I wondered how much their gas bill would have been.  They did shut that door sometimes if I recall right.

There is another picture of New Parkís oven at this bloggers post.  http://www.memyselfandpie.com/2011/09/new-park-pizza.html

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 12:00:17 AM »
The gas ran constantly the entire time I watched it.
Pizza is not bread.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 06:26:35 AM »
it appears to be a big wide rectangular box with the fire coming in from the opening on one side.
I wonder how much temp differences they get across it.

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 10:08:23 AM »
I asked Scott Wiener on facebook if he knew anything about New Park's oven, since Scott knows so much about different NYC pizzerias.  This is what Scott Wiener replied to me.

Hey Norma!

Not sure who made the oven but it's the same as the one at Sam's in Cobble Hill. Could be Universal Oven Company but there's no nameplate so hard to tell. It was likely once a coal oven but later converted to gas. New Park bakes in that oven but reheats in a deck oven. I love how they toss a handful of salt in the oven a couple times a day, really adds to the underside flavor!

Have a slice day!

Scott

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 10:57:08 AM »
I donít want to get off-topic about the oven that is used at New Park, but if it somewhat like the oven at Samís, that is why I am posting this.

There is a video in this bloggers post of what Samís oven look like inside when the flames are rolling. 

http://31daysofpizza.blogspot.com/2010/11/day-31d-pizza-month-2010-sams.html

This is also the video on YouTube to compare the oven at Samís to with New Parkís oven.



These photos are Scott at Samís.  http://foter.com/Sam's+Restaurant+%26+Pizzeria/

For a closer view of Samís oven pictures are on Flickr at The steel-clad brick oven at Sam's

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 11:28:51 AM »
Nice. Thanks for the replies. I see I'm not the only one with some interest in this. It's perfect that Sam's has been mentioned, because the char there was kind of similar and I'm glad I went there (Scott's recommendation!). They both seem to come close to coal fired results/char with gas ovens, but they certainly are not Blodgetts!

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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 12:25:25 PM »
Universal oven company was the one I'm thinking of. 
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Re: Oven used at New Park in Queens?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 12:39:50 PM »
Universal oven company was the one I'm thinking of.

Jeff,

Good to hear that is the one you were thinking of.  Do you know anything about those ovens?

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