Norma, at Papa's you received a sub-standard/over baked pie. Before you ordered, did you say anything about your great interest in pizza making, or did you say all that stuff after you received your order. I ask because I'm trying to determine whether the pizza chef gave you any special treatment or was the pie you received just their standard service but they messed up a bit.
Also, what was PAPA's reaction to all the pics you took?
I agree that Bill and I received a sub-standard/overbaked pie at Papa's and don't think that is the norm at Papa's. What I said was I had watched the Pizza Cuz show on TV and had wanted to try Papa's famous tomato pies. I commented on the little folder that had all the information about Papa's and said I really enjoyed reading the history and reviews of Papa's. I said I have tried many pizzas at different pizza business. I also said I traveled from Lancaster county in Pa. to try their tomato pies. I never tell any pizzeria that I also own a small pizza business. If anything, I just tell whom I am talking to that I like to try to make pizzas at home, but at Papa's I just said I wanted to record what I ate at Papa's and show the photos to my friends at home to show them what a tomato pie was. I really don't think Bill's and my pizza was given any special treatment, but the people that work at Papa's were really nice. Bill and I had thought about sending the pizza back, but decided against it. I asked to go into Papa's kitchen to watch how the pizzas are made. I asked to look at the dough and the man making the pizzas showed me the dough and how he makes the pizzas.
This might be subjective, but the list of best pizzerias in NJ in 2010 contains Grimaldi's coal-burning oven where they dress their pies Trenton style. http://njmonthly.com/articles/restaurants/25-perfect-pizzas.html
The one other thing I found interesting about what Bill told me about Trenton pizzas was there was a fair amount of coal-burning pizza ovens in Trenton at one point in time.
There are different articles on Slice about Trenton's tomato pies. How many tomato pie pizzerias have you tried in Trenton? I am always searching for my perfect NY style pizzas and I was probably fortunate that I found it at Joey's. For me, that was my perfect NY style pizza, at least to this date. I know everyone’s tastes are different, so what might be my perfect NY style pizza, might not be someone elses perfect pizza. Maybe the stars were just aligned right that day that the pizza at Joey's tasted that good to me.
I never will know unless I try another tomato pie at Joey's. Bill also has tried many Trenton pizzas from all of the years he has lived in Trenton and he also said that was his favorite pizza.
To add to all I have just posted, who would think that some little old lady would want to copy anyones pizza.