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Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« on: May 21, 2013, 08:22:06 PM »
I just recently saw Peters math formula for this and forgot to file it.  >:(
Can anyone please be of assistance?  I need to go from 5oz dough in a 10in. pan /up to ? dough in a 16in. pan.
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 11:03:09 PM »
I just recently saw Peters math formula for this and forgot to file it.  >:(
Can anyone please be of assistance?  I need to go from 5oz dough in a 10in. pan /up to ? dough in a 16in. pan.
Thanks Pizza Pals!  :chef:

Bob,

I don't know if this is the thread you are searching for, but Peter explains how to make the changes for different pan sizes in this thread a few times.  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,2878.msg24711.html#msg24711  If that isn't the thread, then do an advanced search using Pete-zza name and use the words Converting dough weights pan sizes.  A few more threads will show up.  Maybe I am missing what words to use too.

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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 11:44:22 PM »
Bob,

I don't know if this is the thread you are searching for, but Peter explains how to make the changes for different pan sizes in this thread a few times.  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,2878.msg24711.html#msg24711  If that isn't the thread, then do an advanced search using Pete-zza name and use the words Converting dough weights pan sizes.  A few more threads will show up.  Maybe I am missing what words to use too.

Norma
Thank you Norma. Not sure I see a conclusion in there but I am working on a way to do this more easily now that we have the dough tools(that post was from '06).
Thanks again.  :)
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 02:12:31 AM »
Isn't this just cross multiplication? 5/X * 10/16, so the answer would be 8.

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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 08:54:18 AM »
Isn't this just cross multiplication? 5/X * 10/16, so the answer would be 8.

No. Circles scale exponentially not linearly. If Bob is asking about plain old flat, round pizza, then the answer would be x = 5/(10^2) * (16^2) = 12.8
 
Bob, are you asking about regular flat pizza crust or Chicago style where the crust goes up the side too?
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 01:10:21 PM »
No. Circles scale exponentially not linearly. If Bob is asking about plain old flat, round pizza, then the answer would be x = 5/(10^2) * (16^2) = 12.8
 
Bob, are you asking about regular flat pizza crust or Chicago style where the crust goes up the side too?
Yes, just a plain old Chicago thin pizza. Thank you for the answer Craig but boy, I sure don't think I understand that formula. How would it read if you were to write out the expression in words?
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 01:18:11 PM »
Yes, just a plain old Chicago thin pizza. Thank you for the answer Craig but boy, I sure don't think I understand that formula. How would it read if you were to write out the expression in words?

weight of dough for pie 2 equals weight of dough in pie 1 divided by diameter of pie 1 squared * diameter of pie 2 squared.

or maybe this is simpler:

w1 = pie 1 dough weight
d1 = pie 1 diameter
w2 = pie 2 dough weight
d2= pie 2 diameter

w2 = w1/d12 * d22
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 01:19:16 PM »
Remember that you square things before you divide.

I know that confusing being that pie is not square  :-D
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 01:25:12 PM »
weight of dough for pie 2 equals weight of dough in pie 1 divided by diameter of pie 1 squared * diameter of pie 2 squared.

or maybe this is simpler:

w1 = pie 1 dough weight
d1 = pie 1 diameter
w2 = pie 2 dough weight
d2= pie 2 diameter

w2 = w1/d12 * d22
Now we're talk'in...I got it now Craig; Thanks!  ;D

Dough weight divided by pan size squared times new pan size squared.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 01:27:40 PM by Chicago Bob »
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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 10:49:03 PM »
No. Circles scale exponentially not linearly.

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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 11:23:04 PM »
Bob,

The way I do it is to use the squares of the radii. So, to go from 10" to 16", the math is:

5 x (82/52) = 12.8

To go in the other direction, from 16" to 10", the math would be:

12.8 x (52/82) = 5

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Re: Converting dough weights within diff. pan sizes
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 11:25:40 PM »
Bob,

The way I do it is to use the squares of the radii. So, to go from 10" to 16", the math is:

5 x (82/52) = 12.8

To go in the other direction, from 16" to 10", the math would be:

12.8 x (52/82) = 5

Peter
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