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Offline Skee

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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2013, 04:04:07 PM »
I poked around in the wikipedia DS article and found this quote dating back to a 2008 version (got edited out at some point I guess), that's interesting:

"Despite its Detroit origins, it is rarely referred to as "Detroit-style" pizza in Metro Detroit.{{Fact|date=December 2007}} Locally it is more often simply called either square, or deep-dish pizza.{{Fact|date=December 2007}}"



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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2013, 09:18:02 PM »
Peter,

I also really wondered about why Detroit style pizzas are called that, except they are made in Detroit in auto parts pans.  I had a few people from Detroit visit my small pizza stand and ask what a Detroit style pizza was.  They apparently never heard of a Detroit style pizza either. 

I sure don't know, but think it has something to do with something like Chicago style pizzas.  I have recently been talking to someone on facebook and this is what he said to me about Chicago pizzas. 

Also, can I clear something up? A huge misconception about Chicago is that we eat deep dish pizza, or at least prefer it. In reality eating deep dish is only a once in a year occasion if even that! We prefer thin pizzas cut into squares. Pizza is always cut into squares in Chicago! Expect of course for deep dish.

Most Chicagoans feel that deep dish is "too filling" and heavy. So we stick with the thin. The concept of two inches of crust, two inches of cheese, and two inches of sauce is just not palatable to most Chicagoans.
Thanks, Jim

That is just Jim opinion though about Chicago style pizzas.

Norma

As a native Chicagoan, I completely agree with this statement.  The most popular pizza type in Chicago is thin crust, either the cracker style or pan.  Deep dish is an occasional treat.  While I do love me a slice or 2 of Giordano's every now and then, it's simply too heavy to have regularly.  Once of the reasons I've gravitated towards Sicilian/Grandma style pies lately is it strikes the right balance between a hearty crust that can withstand toppings yet doesn't have the richness of deep dish pizza.

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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2013, 12:34:40 PM »
Very interesting insight everyone.  I'm enjoying reading the responses.  I have a hunch that the analogy between (the lack of) deep dish in Chicago and Detroit Style in Detroit may not be accurate, especially considering the relative lack of national attention that Detroit style garners in comparison to Chicago deep dish.
Dan

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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2013, 11:22:51 PM »
Maybe the difference is this:
People in Chicago know what Chicago Style pizza is, even if they don't prefer it
People in Detroit have no clue what Detroit Style pizza is, whether or not they prefer it
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Seriously, I have not gotten anything other than a  ??? when asking if anyone knew what Detroit Style pizza is.  And I work less than 1/2 mile from a Buddys, too.   One would have thought that, after 70+ years, the name might have caught on at least a little.

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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2013, 06:55:28 AM »
If Detroit-style pizza is looked for on the Internet using the words “who made the term Detroit style pizza popular” there are different articles such as:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza

http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-make-detroit-style-pizza/

This next one says, “Call it square. Call it deep dish. Call it whatever you want – just know that it is uniquely Detroit and definitely Pure Michigan” and “the key ingredient in a proper Detroit-style pizza isn’t something you eat – it’s the pan”.  

http://www.michigan.org/blog/guest-blogger/all-square-a-history-of-detroit-style-pizza/

http://www.famousoriginala.com/detroit-style-pizza-75-hydration-all-purpose-flour/

http://www.freep.com/article/20110123/COL20/101230384/Shortage-steel-pans-has-Detroit-style-pizza-makers-scrambling

http://www.freep.com/article/20130331/ENT08/303310184/Detroit-style-pizza-gaining-fame-winning-fans-nationwide

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2012/11/via-313-detroit-pizza-in-austin-texas.html

http://www.theunion.com/news/localnews/4583828-113/pizza-style-detroit-jechura

http://foodfloozie.blogspot.com/2013/04/detroit-style-pizza.html

This Detroit forum also discusses what really is a Detroit style pizza.  Zug says, “I've called it "Detroit-style" with people I know for years, since I really like pizza and it's just easiest to say that when comparing our pizza to Chicago & New York. But never heard others use the term until recently. I think what happens is that we're just so used to it here that we think of it as "square pizza." It really is a style in its own, and probably it would be cool if "Detroit style" pizza becomes an accepted term. Also, I think it's not really accurate to say not many places serve it...if you think of all of the Buddy's, Jets, Shields, Papa Romanos, etc. that starts adding up. Of course we don't ONLY eat square pizzas...but it's not like people in Chicago only eat Chicago style”.

http://www.detroityes.com/mb/archive/index.php/t-15966.html

In this next article it says, “They want to see "Detroit-style pizza" uttered with the same familiarity and respect accorded to Chicago's or New York's famous styles -- and sooner rather than later. Think it sounds farfetched? They and other experts said they believe it's only a matter of time”.

http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?15966-Detroit-Style-Pizza-Catching-On

In this next forum, this is what is said, DownDaRiver: It sounds as though Detroit has never heard of Old Forge PA

was going to say, the eye-talians in PA's coal regions have been making this pizza forever. Call it what you want, it is tasty.”

http://pizza.about.com/od/SicilianPizza/a/What-Is-Sicilian-Pizza.htm

http://www.pizzamarketplace.com/article/196277/Pizza-champion-working-to-put-Detroit-style-in-the-spotlight

There are many more things on the Internet about Detroit style pizzas, but I think the above articles give enough of a glimpse about what people think a Detroit style pizza is, or isn't.  I am still not sure who really started writing about Detroit style pizzas though.

Norma
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Re: What differentiates a standard American Sicilian from Detroit style?
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 05:29:19 PM »
So I had Buddy's pizza for lunch today.  Interestingly enough, THEY call their pizza Sicilian style.


 

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