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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #220 on: August 18, 2013, 06:30:10 PM »
This is my 3 rd bake
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #221 on: August 18, 2013, 06:42:57 PM »
I've settled on baking between 700-800.  With this oven it's been difficult to get it to bake longer than 3:45!  The bottoms were completely baked, no gummy layer and nice cell structure, but they're paler than I would like.  Sorry there's no underskirt or crumb shots.  The family gobbled it up before I could do any of that!

I used a basic Lehmann formulation. Pendleton Power Flour, Water-64%, IDY-0.25%, Salt-1.75%, Oil-1%, Sugar-0.8% (sugar usually left out, but I'm trying to get more browning), TF=0.08. Cold fermented overnight.

The toppings were tomato sauce, fresh mozz, Carrando and Margherita pepperoni, spicy Italian sausage from the local Italian market, peppadew peppers, aleppo pepper and Olave garlic-infused olive on the rim and drizzled.

The second pizza was the same but I used garlic stuffed green olives in lieu of peppadew peppers.
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #222 on: August 18, 2013, 06:53:22 PM »
From the Blackstone today on the beach !
Very nice, and VERY cute girls having a great time too!!

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #223 on: August 18, 2013, 09:24:52 PM »
Chau Amano Has a Uses a Pietro Berto Fork Mixure. full bagger !
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #224 on: August 18, 2013, 09:44:00 PM »
john great pictures of the kids and pies. taking you pizza oven to the park, how funny is that. who needs hot dogs and burgers when you have the balckstone!

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #225 on: August 19, 2013, 12:32:19 AM »
Tonight's NP pies.  7 hour dough made with CY.  First has bufala mozz and Di Napoli tomatoes.  2) Craig's fig pie: Grande fior di latte, fresh figs, fig jam, prosciutto, danish blue cheese crumbles, and a swirl evoo.
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #226 on: August 19, 2013, 06:56:14 AM »
  jsaras, nice pies!!! ny style??

 chau, nice pizzas as usual!!! how do you like the bianco tomatoes ?? i have bought two pallets and they are now gone. they raised the price 3.00 per case,not sure i'm re buying. what you  opinion of the product?

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #227 on: August 20, 2013, 11:19:35 AM »
Tonight's offering.  Made with old dehydrated caputo 00 flour.  66% hydration, 0.2% old CY, CF for 3 days.  Baked 63-64 sec.  One of the prettier pies I've made.

One the best looking pies coming from a BS.

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #228 on: August 20, 2013, 11:36:13 AM »
  jsaras, nice pies!!! ny style??

 chau, nice pizzas as usual!!! how do you like the bianco tomatoes ?? i have bought two pallets and they are now gone. they raised the price 3.00 per case,not sure i'm re buying. what you  opinion of the product?

Where are you all purchasing the Bianco tomatoes?

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #229 on: August 20, 2013, 01:18:26 PM »
...do you think insulation behind the heat stop and above the top ceramic stone will help hold more heat? another question i see one of the mods is to add a plate to the opening to reduce the open are in the front. why not cut the top of the body down to lower the whole top area ?

Larry I don't think insulation behind the heat shield or above the top ceramic stone will hurt.  I'm not sure it's necessary but I do think it might help.  I have bunched up some aluminum foil and packed it loosely behind the heat shield.  I have not insulated the top as member Pizzajerk (Anthony) has done.  But that will be my next step.

The only way I see of lowering the ceiling is to cut the heat shield and I don't recommend doing that. 
how do you like the bianco tomatoes ?? i have bought two pallets and they are now gone. they raised the price 3.00 per case,not sure i'm re buying. what you  opinion of the product?

Well these are the Di Napoli tomatoes, canned by the same company that cans the organic Bianco Di Napoli tomatoes.  I haven't done a side by side comparison but I'm pretty sure it's the same tomatoes.   I liked these tomatoes.   They are nice and firm and come in a semi thick sauce.   Decent flavor, and not too tart.  I paid about $9 for the BIG can.   These are decent tomatoes but not better than the Stanislaus Alta Cucinas (going from memory).  Having said that, I don't have access to Alta Cucinas so these will do. 

Chad I got these tomatoes at a local Italian mart, and I can get the Bianco Di Napoli tomatoes at an Asian/import store but they are way over priced there.  $4 for the small 28 oz. can.

Chau
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #230 on: August 20, 2013, 08:56:37 PM »
Thanks Chau! The funny thing is I have a can of that and haven't tried it yet!  :-D I have been dying to try Bianco too!

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #231 on: August 20, 2013, 10:10:05 PM »
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Thanks Chau! The funny thing is I have a can of that and haven't tried it yet!  :-D I have been dying to try Bianco too!

Same parent company.  I would bet money its the same tomatoes with diferent labelling.  A quick call to them would answer that question though.   ???
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #232 on: August 28, 2013, 10:47:48 PM »
A few tester NP crusts tonight. Made with old dehydrated caputo 00 flour.  I was wrong about old dehydrated flour.  Apparently I can learn how to make decent dough with old flour.  Made with IDY and CF for 2 days.  I have been working on an Amano like crust.  This first one was bake sub 60 sec and the texture was similar to Craig's crust.

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #233 on: August 28, 2013, 10:53:54 PM »
2nd pie was the same dough but bake out to 85 sec or so.  This produced a crust that was more to my liking.  A crisp veneer and better crumb structure.

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #234 on: August 29, 2013, 07:42:17 AM »
Nice job Chau.
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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #235 on: September 07, 2014, 09:56:59 PM »
My Newbie entry  :-D
The Family is loving the taste too.

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #236 on: September 08, 2014, 08:03:27 AM »
My Newbie entry  :-D
The Family is loving the taste too.

Nice work there...  awesome...

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #237 on: December 26, 2014, 04:23:52 AM »
Righto.  I'm throwing in the towel here.  If anyone was going to clone Craig's work we would have seen it by now.   There are some mighty fine BlackStone pies, especially over the last 6 months or so, but nothing that that would pass an A/B test against Craig's pies.

18 months ago I thought I might have a remote shot at getting close.  But as the months ticked by I realised it just wasn't going to happen.  To misquote someone...  I can make a great Dylan pie on the BS, but I can't make one of Craig's.

Anyway here's what happened today when I pulled a Marg out of the BS.

*throws towel*


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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #238 on: December 26, 2014, 07:12:14 AM »
Righto.  I'm throwing in the towel here.  If anyone was going to clone Craig's work we would have seen it by now.   There are some mighty fine BlackStone pies, especially over the last 6 months or so, but nothing that that would pass an A/B test against Craig's pies.

18 months ago I thought I might have a remote shot at getting close.  But as the months ticked by realised it just ain't going to happen.  To misquote someone...  I can make a great Dylan pie on the BS, but I can't make one of Craig's.

Anyway here's what happened today when I pulled a Marg out of the BS.

*throws towel*

F$cking stunning....! :drool: Awesome pie....Santa was good to you..Looks like your ready to snatch that pebble from big daddy! :)   :-D

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Re: The Blackstone Challenge
« Reply #239 on: December 26, 2014, 09:21:21 AM »
Dylan,

Your NP pie looks very good!  I have pondered if it possible to make a Neapolitan pie like Craig does in the BS.  I have seen how Craig mixed his dough, since I was at his Pizza Summit II.  I saw how his dough balls looked and how they were so easy to open.  I also tasted Craig's Neapolitan pies.  I have never come close to really how Craig's pies taste.  I think Craig's oven has a lot to do with how his pies bake, along with all the other precise things Craig does.  I think someone would have to taste Craig's pies to really see if there are anywhere close together.

I think I am ready to throw my towel in too.

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