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Offline Johnny the Gent

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2013, 09:06:26 AM »
We sat right next to each other and had slices from the same pie.  ;D. That article you posted is informative and a bit comical.  They show the cross sections of the competitors pies and nit pick as if L&B was some unattainable gold standard.  They provide a recipe but conveniently left out a picture of the baked pie and cross section to be analyzed.   ???  Fail...

Btw, I do like the look of the open crumb better, but I've yet to produce the same softness in the crumb of the L&B square.  It may just be the specific flour.  ???


Good point - it would have been nice to see the end result of their recipe, right?

How to obtain that pillowy center...It just may be the specific flour. Based on the uniformity of the crumb, and considering the soft texture, I'm inclined to think that the yeast level leans more towards heavy than moderate...
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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2013, 09:12:51 AM »
Johnny I had missed the video before I posted my fail comment but after watching the video, I still didn't see a crumb shot. 

They pointed out "irregular cheese rising through the sauce layer" on the underground square but completely ignored the same phenomenon on the L&B square.   ???. Way to be critical.   :-D

Also in the recipe and video provided,  the dough looks much more proofed up then I remember seeing at L&B the one time I was there.  Admittedly I have not spent any significant time replicating their pizza.  Maybe some L&B experts can chime in.

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2013, 11:34:57 AM »
If I remember right, at L&B, they top the risen dough with cheese and then bake/par-bake it. I seem to remember stacks of trays of baked dough and cheese that they would later top with the tomato sauce and grated cheese and bake again. I also remember seeing some slices with a gum line as Norma noted - generally under areas where the cheese was thicker.
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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2013, 06:53:05 PM »
Johhnny, I agree with others sentiment....that pie looks better than the L&B!!

It looks like a happy middle point between full sicilian and a grandmas pie...love the simplicity. Looks fresh and bright.

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2013, 06:09:16 PM »
Here's a couple pics from a new formula I tried out last night. (topped with sauce first, followed by cheese)

Soft inside, a bit of chew, some larger open alveoli near the outer crust, and uniformly open(kinda) in the middle.

What do yall think?
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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2013, 06:13:09 PM »
Johnny,

Methinks you done good!

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2013, 06:23:05 PM »
Johnny,
That looks delicious to me even though I just ate some NY style pizza. There's always room for Jello (and pizza, if you try real hard.)

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2013, 06:39:28 PM »
Johnny,

Looks delicious to me too! 

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2013, 09:14:42 PM »
Thanks for the feedback!

I used  50% liquid whey (seperated from some fresh curds) and 50% water, to make a 70% hydration, same day dough.
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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2013, 09:34:34 PM »
I'm loving on that.

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Re: Guess which famous square pie inspired this effort
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2013, 03:51:02 AM »
Here's a couple pics from a new formula I tried out last night. (topped with sauce first, followed by cheese)

Soft inside, a bit of chew, some larger open alveoli near the outer crust, and uniformly open(kinda) in the middle.

What do yall think?

Looks GREAT....and being an RT I immediately liked the "alveoli" reference, very appropriate, and taking into account some of the naughtier kids tonite in the ICU and their naughty lungs, really kind of caught my eye!!

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