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Re: Stanislaus 7/11 or Escalon 6-1 crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2013, 01:30:49 PM »
That photo is from JD, who came up with the idea of splitting the plate down the middle.  I've worked with soapstone for a few years and recently inherited steel (thanks Barry!), but both pre-date the JD split (copyrighted!  ;D), so, for me, removing the stone/plate is really a hassle.  I've tried baking with the soapstone in place (second shelf from the top), and I was able, with some trial and error, to make cookies, but it's far from ideal.  If I had two steel plate halves, I would definitely remove them when I wasn't making pizza, so I could bake other things.

So this morning I got my steel plates and bars to go underneath as a platform to raise them up above the lip on the back of my oven racks.  They were very rusty, but with a lot of elbow grease, sand paper, steel wool, vinegar and lots of hand washing they now look ready to be seasoned.  After they were cleaned, i dried them and applied a thin coating of vegetable oil with a microfiber cloth.  Here's a before and after shot.  Going to use them tonight.  Many thanks to scott123 for his help and encouragement to purchase this! BTW, I'm glad I had the plate cut into 2 pieces (suggested by JD and scott123) - holy shnikies they're heavy  :angel:
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2013, 01:57:27 PM »
This thread has merged tomatoes with steel plates. Unfortunately, the two topics have become so intermixed that there is no way to sort out the individual posts by topic and split the two topics. I don't even know where the thread should be filed. In the future, try to stick with one core topic per thread.

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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2013, 02:08:02 PM »
Yes, I realized that, Peter.  I thought about starting a new thread for steel plates but I saw a couple of previous ones.  Still learning the protocol on this forum.  This will sound really dumb but is it ok to start a new thread on a topic that's been discussed before without aggravating members?  The last thing I want to do is annoy anyone  :D

I appreciate your help.

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2013, 02:21:06 PM »
Mary Ann,

Yes, it is OK to start a new thread. But usually I would prefer that members first search the forum to see if the questions have been addressed or answered before. You can also use an existing thread if it is on the same topic. If an existing thread is really old, it is usually better to start a new one. The thing to keep in mind is that the forum is based on an indexing system where threads are filed in the best places in the indexing system.

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Re: Stanislaus 7/11 or Escalon 6-1 crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2013, 02:21:29 PM »
Mary Ann, your oven setup looks great- except for one thing. You'll most likely want to use the broiler a bit during the bake.  To do that, the steel has to be on a higher shelf- around 5-6" from the broiler.

Convection might work instead of broiling, but I would use both.

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 11:44:57 AM »
Just a quick chime in and additional input...

We did a taste test across multiple types of tomatoes, and found that 7/11 to be the best straight out of the can.  While it's not VPN compliant (unsure if that's important to you), our taste testers and customers preferred the 7/11 to all the other sauces we tested.  6in1 came in second place, and the rest of the ones tested (in no particular order) were Cento San Marzano, Duomo Crushed, Flora Pomodoro San Marzanos, and Caputo Tomato Puree. 

More on our initial taste test here:  http://za314.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/the-origins-of-a-name-and-some-surprises/

This taste test didn't include the 7/11 as we didn't have easy access yet, but once we did, we re-ran and 7/11 flavor really shines compared to the 6 in 1.

Sounds like during the off-season, I may have to try to get some Sclafanis to try and compare...

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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 12:21:22 PM »
Thank you for your input.  I'll have to check them out the next time I go to Restaurant Depot.  You'll love the Sclafani tomatoes.  My family loved the pizza from last week, but probably 50% because of the Sclafanis and 50% because of the 1st bake on the steel plates ;D
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2013, 11:53:15 PM »
Sounds good, Mary Ann. You're going to love the Sclafanis. Just make sure they're the NJ Sclafanis and not the CT ones (the NJ are in the first photo).

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I was in Top Foods today and thinking that i found the tomatoes that you recommended. However, when I got home and looked at your posting, I was sad to find that I was wrong. The Brand Names are so close to each other, that it is practically not fair. LOL         Solani / Sclafani

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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2013, 11:47:47 AM »
Sounds good, Mary Ann. You're going to love the Sclafanis. Just make sure they're the NJ Sclafanis and not the CT ones (the NJ are in the first photo).

Scott:  Bought a case of the NJ sclafanis the other day.  I tried it today and they are good but I still prefer the 7/11's.  Being a NJ native and remembering those great Jersey tomatoes in the summer months growing in our garden I hoped they would blow away the 7/11's.  I grew up in Bellville.  Everyone had small backyards but all had an above ground pool and a tomatoe garden.  I loved those off the vine fresh tomatoes we use to grow.   My mother put grapes in our backyard as well but they never produced much.  The 7/11's have more of a tang to them.  I reckon it is just a matter of ones taste buds deciding things :)  Walter


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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2013, 12:05:56 PM »
Walter,

Small world, my husband is from Nutley!

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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2013, 12:08:40 PM »
Walter,

Small world, my husband is from Nutley!

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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2013, 12:16:09 PM »
I know St. Mary's.  I will say hi.  Those are some aspirations, but I think you've found your calling  ;D :angel:
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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2013, 02:51:47 PM »
I know St. Mary's.  I will say hi.  Those are some aspirations, but I think you've found your calling  ;D :angel:

Thanks! I had good days in Bellville and St. Mary's.   Simple times in many ways compared to today's world.   I always have dreamed of a Boystown type thing where I would take in the disadvantaged and cognitively impaired.  We would be a village within a village so to speak with making all we needed to survive (housing, food ) and sell our goods to the community.   I have a dream out to the universe that our dog biscuits will be connected with a major pet food chain.  This would put thousands of disabled people to work and you don't need a commercial code kitchen to make them.  Dreams.........  I got more than I can remember :)  Walter

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2013, 03:03:01 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2014, 04:12:36 PM »
I recently opened my first can of 7/11 tomatoes.  They were certainly good quality, but they were so salty that I couldn't tell that I had added my usual amount of oregano, garlic, black pepper and fennel powder.  I'm amazed that all those spices had their flavors completely masked. 
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« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2014, 07:55:37 PM »
I've now cooked concurrently out of a #10 can of 6in1 and a #10 can of 7/11 a few times.  My results are in and confirmed.  I am going forward exclusively with 7/11.  In my opinion, better taste/flavor and better consistency.

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2014, 07:12:58 AM »
I've now cooked concurrently out of a #10 can of 6in1 and a #10 can of 7/11 a few times.  My results are in and confirmed.  I am going forward exclusively with 7/11.  In my opinion, better taste/flavor and better consistency.

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2014, 06:16:56 PM »
I've now cooked concurrently out of a #10 can of 6in1 and a #10 can of 7/11 a few times.  My results are in and confirmed.  I am going forward exclusively with 7/11.  In my opinion, better taste/flavor and better consistency.
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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2014, 06:29:21 PM »
au contraire, a vote for 6 in 1's here, but they are far from my favorites! ;D
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« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2014, 09:29:59 AM »
I recently opened my first can of 7/11 tomatoes.  They were certainly good quality, but they were so salty that I couldn't tell that I had added my usual amount of oregano, garlic, black pepper and fennel powder.  I'm amazed that all those spices had their flavors completely masked.

Very interesting.  I just finished my second large can of 7/11 ground tomatoes.  I really love the tomato flavor, but like yours my second can was extremely salty.  My sauce recipe looks to be similar to yours, and this second round of sauce flavors were completely overwhelmed by the salt.  I wish I had a bit of the first can available to compare.

I have been buying my cans from the local Restaurant Depot, and noticed that the neighboring product was the 6 in 1s.  I was tempted.  The 6 in 1 can acknowledges that they add heavy tomato puree to their ground tomatoes, which made me hesitate.  Of course, the 7/11s are probably packed with puree as well, but for some reason (thank you for not suggesting that the reason relates to my brain) that never occurred to me until tasting the overwhelming salt in the second can.

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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2014, 09:42:20 AM »
I've always used the Classico ground from walmart well since they stopped selling and after some research I picked up a can from GFS of 7/11 however it was the big can. To those who use it how strong is the tang/citric acid, do you counter it with sugar or parmasean?

Also can anybody point me out to a reputable seller to buy some 28oz cans of 7/11s. I found a few cases on amazon but I wanted to ask here first before I ordered. Thanks

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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2014, 10:45:00 AM »
I use it straight from the can, and give the sauced pie a shake of oregano before I put down the cheese. If you don't add anything to the tomatoes, they'll keep in the fridge for a couple of weeks in a clean jar; as soon as you add (unpasteurized) spices the storage life drops to a week or less. After I open a new can, I usually keep some in a jar for the next bake, and freeze the rest in zip-loc bags.
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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2014, 09:24:09 AM »
Like I said earlier in this post it is 7/11's for me hands down over 6 in 1.  I say use the tomato that turns you on. Don't listen to what others say is "gospel".  Let your taste buds develop the pie of your dreams.  Personally I find no satifaction in cloning others pies.  If people like my pie or not is not my reason for making pizza.  It is to make me satified.  If you like my pie great and if you don't great but I will not change it to suit others.   I say make the pie you can't stop from eating everday.  I eat 2 slices a day of our cheese pie and have to stop myself because I could eat the whole pie no lie.  That to me is a good pizza :)  Walter

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Re: Stanislaus 7/11 or Escalon 6-1 crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2014, 08:02:46 PM »
I've always used the Classico ground from walmart well since they stopped selling and after some research I picked up a can from GFS of 7/11 however it was the big can. To those who use it how strong is the tang/citric acid, do you counter it with sugar or parmasean?

Also can anybody point me out to a reputable seller to buy some 28oz cans of 7/11s. I found a few cases on amazon but I wanted to ask here first before I ordered. Thanks

Are you sure you're not confusing 7/11 with 6-in-1? As far as I'm aware, neither 7/11 nor any other Stanislaus product is available in any size other than #10 cans. Also, when I checked recently (and just confirmed by consulting the 2013/2014 GFS product guide), GFS doesn't carry Stanislaus products (7/11), but they do carry Escalon products (6 in 1).
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