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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2013, 11:16:45 AM »
Don't know what it takes for an opinion to have any weight for you.  But here is mine anyway

As someone who has designed, built, and used a stove top oven over the last few years I don't think any oven that uses a single stove top burner underneath as it's heat source will produce vey impressive results.  It's just not enough heat and in the wrong places.  This oven will not even perform on par with your 1/4" steel plate under the broiler, let alone better.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2013, 11:40:23 AM »
BTW, Scott, I think Mal totally misread your post.  But I am looking for some guidance re this product.  I am intrigued by the Blackstone at $349.  Might be good for a beginner who doesn't know dough from dough.  I will try my oven and the steel first before I buy more expensive tools.  Just getting my pizza 101 orientation.

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2013, 11:46:43 AM »
Thanks guys.  Now I have a good sense of what the potential failings are of this thing.  I would not risk $600
Based on the experienced observations you've given me.

The Blackstone can be had for $349 us $20 shipping from one site I found.  But as I wrote, I should walk before I jump.

I appreciate your help.

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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2013, 01:30:09 PM »
$20 shipping to UK, now that's impressive... Please share the shipping method if it is ok.
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2013, 02:46:50 PM »
Not the UK,  New York.  I think I read it right.  I'll post the listing when I can.  Amazon sells the Blackstone for $369 plus (I think) $60 shipping.

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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2013, 03:35:58 PM »
Still interested how they can ship it for 20 to NY. I have been using FedEx and ups ground.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2013, 09:25:24 PM »
thanks
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2013, 10:02:03 PM »
Your oven tempts me as a way to use my wood burning grill and make pizza without having a separate appliance in my car port.  But I need to crawl before I run!


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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2013, 10:12:46 PM »
I understand sticker shock at the price, but that doesn't mean the product won't produce a good pizza.

Any oven can make a good pizza - any. The key is knowing what you can and can't do.  It's like Clint said, "a man's got to know his limitations." If Neapolitan is your goal, no, the Chadwick oven will not make a good pizza.
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2013, 10:14:38 PM »
Neapolitan pizza (which this oven can't even produce) should be 13" minimum, imo, and NY should be even larger.

Who in NYC makes a 13" NP?
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2013, 10:36:42 PM »
Any oven can make a good pizza - any. The key is knowing what you can and can't do.  It's like Clint said, "a man's got to know his limitations." If Neapolitan is your goal, no, the Chadwick oven will not make a good pizza.
You all convinced me of that.  Also that there are alternatives to making a good NY pie that cost a lot less.  A way lot less.

I need to use my steel and learn how to make dough and bake it well before I get too far ahead of myself.

I'm just a sucker for fancy toys.  Ten years of high end audiophilia taught me that sometimes enough is enough. ;D

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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2013, 10:39:14 PM »
Your oven tempts me as a way to use my wood burning grill and make pizza without having a separate appliance in my car port.  But I need to crawl before I run!

I have not used MPO with just wood yet... I successfully baked 5 pies on MPO using charcoal today see
http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,27500.new.html#new

What is your oven model ?
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2013, 11:25:21 PM »
My oven is a Viking propane.

My wb grill is a Grillworks 36.

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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2013, 05:53:18 AM »
On your Grillworks 36,  do you use wood logs, or small pieces . Also I am curious about the smoke generated from the wood, how is it vented.

It looks like the heat is distributed evenly all across the grates.  I was thinking to use similar grates to place over turkey fryer burners to use with MPO.

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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2013, 06:24:31 AM »
I use seasoned oak logs, started on a small base of lump charcoal.  I make the fire depending on what I am cooking.  For a full Argentine grill, I will use both fire grates and use the wheel to raise and lower the cooking grates to control the heat.  Sometimes I just use one side if I just have a few steaks or a rotisseried bird.  The smoke just freely vents from the fire upwards, through the cooking grates then disperses.  Often there is little smoke when I get a very hot fire going.

I also cook with apple, grapevines, pear and peach for fish more delicate meats.  The ability to raise and lower the grates from very close to nearl two feel from the fire gives me a lot of control.
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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2013, 06:27:43 AM »
THe v grates carry cooking jives and fat down a 4 degree slope into collecting pans at the edge. I use this, mixed with other basting stuff to baste the meat frequently.  The v grates also prevent flare ups since the fat does not drip in the fire.
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2013, 06:32:21 AM »
This is an awsome grill. Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2013, 10:13:09 AM »
Who in NYC makes a 13" NP?

As far as I can tell, Keste seems to be using either this peel:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008A1TK4S/?tag=pizzamaking-20

Or this one:

http://www.fornobravo.com/store/The-Ultimate-Pizza-Peel-14.6.html

and fills the peel during the final stretch

(see 1:22)

Even if Keste wasn't doing 13" or 14" pizzas, I don't think it would be too terribly wrong to look at your 13"ish pies as a sizing ideal  ;D

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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2013, 12:07:02 AM »
That's a 13" round GI peel. Pulled to the edge, it will yield at best a 12" pie. Assuming those are 13" plates in that video, those are 12" pies. We've eaten there, and his pies are not 13". Don't get me wrong, I'm a 13" NP guy all the way, but you are not going to find many 13" NP pies in NYC or any of the big name places in the US for that matter, and a lot of them are smaller than 12".
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2013, 03:59:37 AM »
And being only able to make a 12" pizzas? Who wants that?

I do ;-) My 10 mm mild steel plate is only 35x35 cm (a little tight but it works) and in our situation, a single 12 inch pizza baked on that steel plate is sufficient for a meal for two (plus dessert of course...)

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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2013, 10:14:04 AM »
I have had a Chadwick oven for about 6 months now and can thoroughly recommend it. Have been dishing out some great thin crust pizzas from it.

Haven't tried any of the other ovens mentioned on this thread so can't comment on them. Though that hasn't stopped other folk on this thread giving their expert opinions on the Chadwick who clearly have never even been near one  :-D

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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2013, 10:36:01 AM »
I'd personally have no problem being wrong here, but really doubt I am.  I'd love to see some pictures or videos from the chadwich so we can see what it can do.  We've only seen first hand result from the weber pizza oven based on the chadwick and they weren't impressive, but maybe the real deal is better.

Just to clarify my previous statements, the Chadwick runs off a single stove top burner.  With a single stove top burner you can either directly heat the bottom stone and get good bottom heat but no top heat leading to an unbalanced bake, or you can buffer the heat on the bottom and divert it to the top leading to a balanced bake but an extended bake time.  There really isn't a third option.

I have had a Chadwick oven for about 6 months now and can thoroughly recommend it. Have been dishing out some great thin crust pizzas from it.

Haven't tried any of the other ovens mentioned on this thread so can't comment on them. Though that hasn't stopped other folk on this thread giving their expert opinions on the Chadwick who clearly have never even been near one  :-D
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Re: The Chadwick Oven from UK for gas fired range hobs.
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2013, 11:08:33 AM »
The beauty of the Chadwick though is that the metal dome retains the heat. It gets as hot at the top as it does at the bottom, giving a good well rounded cooked pizza. The back of it gets the hottest so the pizza needs to be turned around during the cooking process.


 

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