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Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« on: December 10, 2013, 08:55:32 PM »
Hi Everyone:  This Sunday Aimless Ryan will be coming out to The Smiling With Bakery(pizzeria) to make his array of pizzas.  I will be making my pies as well as some artisan breads.  Ryan was contacted by a student from China who is excited about pizza.  We have decided to turn it into a pizza party and all on the forum are invited.  It will be starting at noon.  If you would like to bring some of your dough balls/ingredients to try in a stack of vintage blodgett 1000 ovens feel free to do so.  One will be running around 550 and the other 450  I don;'t claim to be any sort of pizza teacher but will be happy to share what I know.  If you are interest send me a pm or email and I will forward directions.  Hope to see some folks come out.   Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 03:01:23 PM »
If everything goes as planned, I will be bringing 3 Chinese students who are temporarily in Columbus for a three-week course at OSU. (One of them recently contacted me via couchsurfing.org, in response to my Couchsurfing profile, which says I'd like to make pizza for guests.) This is happening mostly because I asked Walter if he'd be able to do something this particular Sunday, in an effort to help me create an experience that the Chinese students will always remember. I also have invited a friend and her husband.

I intend to bring enough dough and sauce for one 18" NY style pizza, one 12" or 14" deep dish pizza, two 10" Tommy's style pizzas (laminated cracker crust), and one 10" stuffed pizza, as well as some sausage from Carfagna's and Ezzo GiAntonio pepperoni. I don't know if there will be enough demand for me to make all these pizzas, but that's what I'll be bringing.

Also, I've had Walter's pizza, and it's awesome.

To anyone who may be interested in showing up, please say something in a reply on this thread (because I'm curious to know ahead of time, partly in case I need to change the quantity of what I'll be bringing).

Thanks for helping me make this happen, Walter!
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Disclaimer: Don't necessarily believe anything I say here. My brain ain't quite right anymore (unless it is). If I come off as rude or argumentative, that's probably not my intention. Rather, that's just me being honest, to myself and everyone else; partly because I don't have enough time left to BS either you or myself. If you are offended by anything I say, it's probably because you think lying to people (to be "polite") is a good idea. I don't.

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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 03:45:05 PM »
Ryan:  I will have lots of dough.  I am excited.   See you Sunday.  Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 04:30:46 PM »
Shame I'm tied up this Sunday with family affairs that need to be taken care of. 

Looking forward to pics from the Ohio meet up!


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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 05:29:17 PM »
Shame I'm tied up this Sunday with family affairs that need to be taken care of. 

Looking forward to pics from the Ohio meet up!

Derrick;  Sorry you can't make it. A couple people that are attending the pizza expo in columbus are planning on checking out our place so if that works or anytime you want to come by we will welcome you.  Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 05:42:48 PM »
I really hope that this is not taken the wrong way, but I was under the belief that most people of Chinese origin are lactose intolerant, and the internet seems to confirm this.

Perry

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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 05:53:50 PM »
I hope not. Might be a long drive back to Columbus if so.
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Disclaimer: Don't necessarily believe anything I say here. My brain ain't quite right anymore (unless it is). If I come off as rude or argumentative, that's probably not my intention. Rather, that's just me being honest, to myself and everyone else; partly because I don't have enough time left to BS either you or myself. If you are offended by anything I say, it's probably because you think lying to people (to be "polite") is a good idea. I don't.

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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 08:01:28 PM »
So far I have confirmed 4 people.  One is a local restaurant/organic farm owner/social reform entrepuner who came here from So. CA.   Another is a graduate of the Culinary Institute of America.  A tenative is the former womens basketball coach at Harvard. Pepes was her childhood neighborhood pizzeria.  She is a big fan of our pies.  A few NY transplants are also on the invite list.  It looks like I may gather about a dozen food fanatics who have traveled the world eating the best stuff.  I think I have found all there are to be found in our rural county :)  Paige, my best pizza maker student, is working at Denison Universtiy in the cafteteria until 3.  She may stop in and make some pies as well.  Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 08:44:06 PM »
Man, this is gonna be awesome! And for a minute I thought I was being pushy by asking you if this Sunday would work.
Ryan
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Disclaimer: Don't necessarily believe anything I say here. My brain ain't quite right anymore (unless it is). If I come off as rude or argumentative, that's probably not my intention. Rather, that's just me being honest, to myself and everyone else; partly because I don't have enough time left to BS either you or myself. If you are offended by anything I say, it's probably because you think lying to people (to be "polite") is a good idea. I don't.


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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 10:06:39 PM »
Walter has kindly put me in touch with a man in Columbus that is selling a stack oven set just like the one's Walter has at the school. If I can make the deal happen I would love to drop in at the  party.....if ya'll will have me!  8)
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 06:09:40 AM »
Walter has kindly put me in touch with a man in Columbus that is selling a stack oven set just like the one's Walter has at the school. If I can make the deal happen I would love to drop in at the  party.....if ya'll will have me!  8)

Bob:  Those ovens need to be checked out before you travel all that way.  I am about 40-50 miles from Columbus. I could possibly look them over for you.   They are most likely not hooked up to gas so there is no telling what shape the thermostat, pilot light valve assembly (red button you hold to light pilot), the pilot light itself, the thermocoupler, and burnerr, are in.  That stuff is all easily replaced.  The stuff you can't fix is if the oven itself is in rotted.  Get very detailed pictures and yes you are welcome to come and stay in my recording studio.  It has a bed and full bath.  Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 08:49:03 AM »
Walter, just talked with my wife, and if we can find substitutes for Sunday morning commitments, we would like to come.  You are a couple hour drive south I think.  We will know by tonight, if that is OK?  I am an ol' guy, trying to learn!

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 12:41:00 PM »
Walter, just talked with my wife, and if we can find substitutes for Sunday morning commitments, we would like to come.  You are a couple hour drive south I think.  We will know by tonight, if that is OK?  I am an ol' guy, trying to learn!

great!  We are now at least a dozen people.  Walter
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2013, 01:21:27 PM »
Bob:  Those ovens need to be checked out before you travel all that way.  I am about 40-50 miles from Columbus. I could possibly look them over for you.   They are most likely not hooked up to gas so there is no telling what shape the thermostat, pilot light valve assembly (red button you hold to light pilot), the pilot light itself, the thermocoupler, and burnerr, are in.  That stuff is all easily replaced.  The stuff you can't fix is if the oven itself is in rotted.  Get very detailed pictures and yes you are welcome to come and stay in my recording studio.  It has a bed and full bath.  Walter
What can I say....you are so very kind Walter. Thank you!
Will be in touch....
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2013, 02:45:56 PM »
What can I say....you are so very kind Walter. Thank you!
Will be in touch....

Bob:  My pleasure.  People have continually given to me and I am glad when I can be part of the side of things.  Walter
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2013, 06:13:37 PM »
Ryan:  Counting your group I figure we are at about 20 so far give or take 1/2 dozen.  I still have quite a few people that haven't responded yet.  I will have some 2,3,and 4 day old doughs.  Walter
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2013, 06:35:58 PM »
It looks like my group will be me + 2-4 others. I think one of the Chinese students bailed, but it sounds like the other two are very enthusiastic. My friend Julie seemed interested when I mentioned it to her, and still does, but it wouldn't surprise me if she bails, too, considering it's a pretty long drive (and who knows what to expect from the weather). I made sure to mention to her that you invited the coach because Julie was first team All Ohio in high school. She hasn't said anything about whether her husband might go.
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Disclaimer: Don't necessarily believe anything I say here. My brain ain't quite right anymore (unless it is). If I come off as rude or argumentative, that's probably not my intention. Rather, that's just me being honest, to myself and everyone else; partly because I don't have enough time left to BS either you or myself. If you are offended by anything I say, it's probably because you think lying to people (to be "polite") is a good idea. I don't.


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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2013, 12:50:42 AM »
Julie just confirmed. She and her husband are going.
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Disclaimer: Don't necessarily believe anything I say here. My brain ain't quite right anymore (unless it is). If I come off as rude or argumentative, that's probably not my intention. Rather, that's just me being honest, to myself and everyone else; partly because I don't have enough time left to BS either you or myself. If you are offended by anything I say, it's probably because you think lying to people (to be "polite") is a good idea. I don't.

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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2013, 08:52:28 AM »
Walter,
Really great post you wrote: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,29015.msg291887.html#msg291887.  I'm sure many readers enjoyed it.  If I were located near your summit, I'd be there.
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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2013, 10:07:36 AM »
I really hope that this is not taken the wrong way, but I was under the belief that most people of Chinese origin are lactose intolerant, and the internet seems to confirm this.

Perry

Mmm.. I find that whenever someone says "I hope this isn't taken the wrong way", it usually means that you're about to make a remark that's inappropriate.  In this case, it's not really offensive, but very random, considering the thread/discussion.

To my knowledge, I'm not lactose intolerant... yet.  There's some evidence that people can get lactose intolerant as they age, but I haven't run into that yet.  I do know that if I overload on ice cream (we're talking a lot of ice cream here, like a few pints in one sitting), my system doesn't handle it well.  But I'm guessing that true for a lot of people.  Cheese on a pizza has never been a problem, even when I eat multiple pizzas in one sitting.

Lots of folks with Chinese descent are lactose intolerant, but that's likely in part due to how they're brought up culturally if they're not born in the US.  Milk and milk products were not commonly found or used in China until more recently. 

And back to the thread:  Walter, post pics!  I'll use them to convince my wife to take a day off on some future weekend to come visit...

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Re: Ohio meets NJ pizza summit
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2013, 11:45:24 AM »
Derrick,

Some time ago, I researched the matter of lactose in mozzarella cheese, and I did find many articles that talked about lactose intolerance among many ethnic groups, including Asians. It was part of my usual reverse engineering work where I studied the Sugars in mozzarella cheese as recited in Nutrition Facts. Much to my surprise, I discovered that the amount of lactose in mozzarella cheese is quite low, especially in relation to other dairy products. In fact, if you look at the Nutrition Facts for the shredded form of the Grande whole milk mozzarella cheese, as given at http://www.grandecheese.com/products/Pages/Product_Spec.aspx?ProductMasterID=15, you will see that the Sugars, which includes lactose, is given as 0 for one ounce of that cheese. I am sure that that number goes up when you increase the amount of cheese, but if you look at the Nutrition Facts for a more or less generic whole milk mozzarella cheese as given at the NutritionData.Self.com website at http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/25/2, you will see that one cup of that cheese in shredded form has 1.2 grams of Sugars. And if you click on the More Details tab under Carbohydrates, you will see that the lactose included in that amount of cheese is 78.4 mg.

What I found from my research is that the lactose content of mozzarella cheese is fairly low because the lactose, or most of it, is removed when making the cheese. See, for example, the article at http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/mozzarella-lactose-6826.html. As the article cautions, one shouldn't go overboard on dairy products with lactose but a reasonable amount of mozzarella cheese, and especially the drier forms, shouldn't pose a problem for most people who are lactose intolerant.

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2013, 11:48:54 AM »
I'm sure Ryans guests know whether or not they can eat pizza. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2013, 12:07:45 PM »
Man, this is gonna be awesome! And for a minute I thought I was being pushy by asking you if this Sunday would work.

All systems go on this end. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2013, 12:11:47 PM »
Walter,
Really great post you wrote: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,29015.msg291887.html#msg291887.  I'm sure many readers enjoyed it.  If I were located near your summit, I'd be there.
Dave

Thanks Dave.  I am old school, too old for this new wham bam techno approach to life and pizza with a kazillion toppings, basterdized to all ends........   I grew up in the mom and pop shops of NJ, worked in them, and learned via my mother and her family from Italy.  My mothers maiden name is Gallata.  They call me Mr. G. here at school (gloshinski my polish father was).  I figure I will call my shop Mr. G's Jersey Pizzeria in honor of her and her family who were master bakers and dabbled in pizza.   You are welcome out here anytime.   Walter
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2013, 02:33:06 PM »
I just finished making all my 48-hour dough for Sunday (three different styles, plus I made one batch yesterday and one batch the previous day). I'm sure I made a lot more than I'll actually need, but it's better to have too much than to not have enough. For some reason I feel like I screwed up something with every batch. I feel like they're all gonna overferment or something. Hope not.

NY style
100% All Trumps flour (bleached & bromated)
63% Water
0.45% ADY
1.75% Salt
1.5% Oil

Deep dish
100% Pillsbury AP flour
54% Water
0.4% ADY
21% Corn oil

Note: I usually mix deep dish dough by hand or with the flat beater on my mixer. For some reason, though, today I grabbed the wire whip and used it without even thinking about what I'd done. The dough will probably be fine, but I still might make another batch with the flat beater because the flat beater works great for deep dish.

Tommy's style (laminated cracker crust)
100% Pillsbury AP flour
43% Water
1.25% ADY
1.5% Salt
5% Shortening
1% Sugar

Last night's stuffed dough
100% Mondako flour
48% Water
1% ADY
0.9% Salt
6% Shortening

Previous night's stuffed dough
100% Power flour
48% Water
0.9% ADY
0.9% Salt
6% Shortening
« Last Edit: December 13, 2013, 02:37:32 PM by Aimless Ryan »
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