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blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« on: February 18, 2015, 04:10:57 PM »
Hi I read an old thread from 2011 with lots of info on finding the original blue steel pans from Dover Parkersburg in Follansbee West Virginia, problem is I cant find their website any longer and want to order pans from dist of theirs. 
Also does anybody know if Noble Romans back in the 70's used those same pans for deep dish and also Mother Bears in Bloomington IN?
Looking to reproduce those two pizzas!

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 07:26:13 PM »
foreste1,

Dover Parkersburg is no longer in business.

One of the most popular current sources of blue steel pans is http://detroitstylepizza.co/detroit-style-pizza-pans/. However, another popular blue steel pan is the Paderno blue steel pan (see http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg130637#msg130637 and Reply 407 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=3783.msg190988#msg190988). If you need more than just a few blue steel pans, you might check availability at PA Products at http://paprod.com/pans.html. Another pizza supply house, Northern Pizza Equipment, used to sell the PA Products blue steel pans but no longer does so. It now sells an aluminized steel pan for the Detroit style pizza, at http://www.northernpizzaequipment.com/8-x8-aluminized-steel-pan-br-sw0638.html.

After Dover Parkersburg closed up shop, and until other suppliers established themselves as sources of blue steel pans, some members, and some professionals as well, went instead to dark anodized pans such as sold by Lloyd/PizzaTools, at http://www.lloydpans.com/standard-pans/pizza-tools/rectangular-pans-and-disks/detroit-style-deep-dish. Some alternative suppliers of pans like the blue steel pans sell what is called a cold rolled steel pan. An example can be seen at http://www.bucket-outlet.com/Cold-Rolled-Steel-Utility-Dripping-Pans.htm. Bucket Outlet used to sell blue steel pans but no longer does so.

Another pizza supply company, Northern Pizza Equipment, used to sell blue steel pans from PA Products but no longer does so but sells an aluminized steel pan, at http://www.northernpizzaequipment.com/8-x8-aluminized-steel-pan-br-sw0638.html.

If you do a forum search on blue steel pans, you will find a lot more information on the subject of blue steel and comparable pans for the Detroit style of pizza and other pan style pizzas.

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2015, 08:49:39 AM »
Thank you Peter! Does anyone know if these other pans work just like the original Dover pans? Also anyone know if Noble Romans used the blue pans?

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2015, 11:57:01 AM »
Also anyone know if Noble Romans used the blue pans?

foreste1,

I really don't know what pans Noble Romans uses, but there are a set of 25 deep dish pans on ebay now that say they are from Noble Romans.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-Commercial-Deep-Dish-Pizza-Baking-Pans-6-5-Round-Personal-Size-/321653311001  The price looks good if those of the kind of pans you are searching for.

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 12:44:05 PM »
Thank you Norma, I appreciate the help!

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2015, 01:01:06 PM »
foreste1,

I saw another place on the web that was selling one of Noble Romans sheet pans.  Just do a Google search for Noble Romans pans.

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 01:53:53 PM »
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I don't know how accurate this dough recipe and work flow will work for a Noble Roman pizza, if that is something you want to make, but it says that the person did work for Noble Romans gave information somewhere on the web.  It also tells what cheeses are used.  I don't think you would need to use a breadmaker for the dough.

http://www.food.com/recipe/sicilian-pizza-dough-noble-romans-copycat-155842 

When I searched on Google images it looks like Noble Romans serves a pizza that looks like a Detroit style pizza, one that is round and thicker and a thinner round pizza.  Is that right?

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 03:43:20 PM »
HI Norma, thanks again for the info!  These days Noble Romans if there are any left dont serve the pizza they used to back in the 70's into the 80's which was a Detroit style square with sauce on top with that caramelized crust!  I want to start a pizza place and want to get those blue pans everybody talks about and hoping for a recipe from those days.
I will follow your link and see what I can find, thanks again!

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 05:20:26 PM »
HI Norma, thanks again for the info!  These days Noble Romans if there are any left dont serve the pizza they used to back in the 70's into the 80's which was a Detroit style square with sauce on top with that caramelized crust!  I want to start a pizza place and want to get those blue pans everybody talks about and hoping for a recipe from those days.
I will follow your link and see what I can find, thanks again!

foreste1,

These are some Noble Roman's baking pans on ebay.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Noble-Romans-Pizza-Aluminum-Rectangle-Baking-Pan-9-15-16-x-13-15-16-x-2-5-8-/251771547852?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9ec0f0cc

I don't know if you are interested, but I also make Detroit style pizzas.  If you look at through this thread, let me know if that might be something you would like to try. http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=21559.0  I purchased most of my Detroit style pans from this link.  http://detroitstylepizza.co/detroit-style-pizza-pans/

What size Detroit square pizza do you want to make?

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 10:00:47 AM »
Hi Norma, I actually have always wanted to open a pizza place with my brother and family.  My brother has a bakery and is amazing with baking/dough.  We both grew up in the 70's and 80's on Noble Romans deep dish along with Mother Bears in Bloomington IN.  We are on the west coast and want to open up a place that does the Detroit style pizza correctly.  I would love to be able to talk with you if you have time this week?  I was about to order the pans from that link you sent, do you have any pics of pizzas you make? I was originally trying to find the blue steel from West Virginia, but they are gone now.  Do you think the Detroit pans you are using are the same thing?


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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 12:28:16 PM »
Hi Norma, I actually have always wanted to open a pizza place with my brother and family.  My brother has a bakery and is amazing with baking/dough.  We both grew up in the 70's and 80's on Noble Romans deep dish along with Mother Bears in Bloomington IN.  We are on the west coast and want to open up a place that does the Detroit style pizza correctly.  I would love to be able to talk with you if you have time this week?  I was about to order the pans from that link you sent, do you have any pics of pizzas you make? I was originally trying to find the blue steel from West Virginia, but they are gone now.  Do you think the Detroit pans you are using are the same thing?

foreste1,

That is interesting that you and your brother would like to make a Detroit style pizza correctly on the West Coast.  I never even heard of Noble Romans and Mother Bears until you posted about them.

There are a lot of photos of the Detroit style pizzas I made on the Two Bill's thread.  These are some links to some photos

Reply 2147 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=21559.msg351038#msg351038

Reply 2094 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=21559.msg314262#msg314262

Reply 2066 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=21559.msg299291#msg299291 and a lot of other photos if you scan through that thread.

As for me teaching you how to make the Detroit style pizzas I now make, everything I learned to make those kinds of Detroit style pizzas are on that thread and also on the thread at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=3783.0  There were many members that helped me to learn how to make the Detroit style pizzas.  Peter keep posting links and ideas until I finally achieved what I wanted in a Detroit style pizza.  I talked to Shawn Randazzo and his mother Linda at the OH. pizza convection last Sunday.  I think the steel pans from the Detroit Style Pizza Co. are the same steel pans.  I think some of the links Peter gave are also the same pans if they would be seasoned.

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 12:27:35 PM »
Thank you for all of the threads, will go through them!  I did send Shawn an email asking about the pans, and he replied he was getting some kind of new pans in this week that are supposed to be the best he said.  Hopefully they will be what I am after and I can order some to get going.

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 12:30:03 PM »
Norma, I see the first pics and that looks exactly like what I want to create.  What pans did you use?  Also are you using olive oil or something else for the crust?

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 06:14:06 PM »
I did send Shawn an email asking about the pans, and he replied he was getting some kind of new pans in this week that are supposed to be the best he said.  Hopefully they will be what I am after and I can order some to get going.

foreste1,

That is interesting that Shawn said they are getting some kind of new pans in this week. 

Norma, I see the first pics and that looks exactly like what I want to create.  What pans did you use?  Also are you using olive oil or something else for the crust?

I do use the steel pans from Detroit Style http://detroitstylepizza.co/detroit-style-pizza-pans/  I use MFB (Made for Baking) shortening to grease my pans but other shortenings can be used.

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 12:23:27 PM »
Yes hoping to hear back from him asap so I can get a few.  I also like that yo use the smaller pans so all of your slices have the crust.  Do you have an actual pizza restaurant? 

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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 12:44:55 PM »
Norma can you tell me the actual brand of shortening you use?

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2015, 10:18:59 AM »
Yes hoping to hear back from him asap so I can get a few.  I also like that yo use the smaller pans so all of your slices have the crust.  Do you have an actual pizza restaurant?

Norma can you tell me the actual brand of shortening you use?

I started selling the Detroit style pizzas from larger pans and smaller pans.  Almost all of the customers wanted the corner slices.  That is why I only use the small pans now.

I do own a very small pizza stand at a farmer's market.  I am only open one day a week.  If you want to read the review from Pizza Quixote about my pizzas, and see some photos at my market stand this is the link.  http://mainlinepizzaquest.blogspot.com/2014/12/pizza-genius-normas-pizza-roots-country.html The first photo of the pizza in the review is the one Pizza Quixote made while he was visiting my stand. 

This is the link for the shortening I use to grease the steel pans.  http://www.conagrafoodservice.com/ProductDetail.do?productUpc=2700073651

You can also see Craig's delicious Detroit style pies at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=21992.0 You can see Craig used butter flavored Crisco to grease his pans.

If you have any questions about making a Detroit style pizza you can asked those questions under the Two Bill's thread.  There are quite a few members here on the forum that do know how to make Detroit style pizzas.

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2015, 04:15:54 PM »
Wow your pizza looks amazing and great article!

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Re: blue pans from Dover Parkersburg for deep dish detroit style
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2015, 07:51:52 PM »
I went to buy the Detroit pans today. To replace my old ones. They teamed up with llyod pans. The price has more than doubled from when I bought mine. So now I'm debating on the northern pizza equipment pans.

http://detroitstylepizza.com/uncategorized/the-ultimate-detroit-style-pizza-pan-has-arrived/
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