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Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« on: June 27, 2014, 04:47:16 PM »
I've never liked sauce made from fresh tomatoes, but I did something a little different, and it came out pretty good. Rather than peeling and lightly cooking the sauce, I "pseudo-canned" it. Basically, I canned the tomatoes but I didn't use the pressure canner and proper technique. Since I was going to use them the same day, it's not an issue. I peeled the tomatoes (quick dunk in boiling water), filled the extra space with some fresh puree (no skins in that either), added a pinch of salt and a basil leaf, then put the jar in a pot of boiling water for 20 minutes. After it cooled, I made sauce as I normally would though I did need to add a bit of lemon juice to get the acidity up some, and I also strained out some water to get the viscosity right.

My tomatoes definitely have a bit different flavor than Cento Italian or SM's but it was surprisingly good. On the pies, if I didn't tell you, I'm not sure you would notice. 
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2014, 05:59:48 PM »
Craig,

Thank you for sharing, I am going to give this a try. 

What variety of tomatoes are you using in your sauce?

Marty

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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2014, 06:04:14 PM »
Craig,

Thank you for sharing, I am going to give this a try. 

What variety of tomatoes are you using in your sauce?

Marty

I have 5 different varieties in the garden - all of them round - none special. The typical heat and disease resistant varieties. It could have been any combination.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 06:11:16 PM »
I've got 24 SM plants I grew from imported seed in the garden now.  I'm happy with what we do with fresh tomatoes but I'll give your way a try...hopefully we have a bumper crop.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 06:19:40 PM »
It's definitely different than cooking them in an open pot - no concentration at all.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 06:48:18 PM »
Great photos!
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 10:13:02 PM »
Interesting way to process the toms Craig, I might have to try that technique.

Totti, yea!! bottled sauce is so much better than canned.

Hopefully I'll win the powdery mildew we get troubled w/ here in San Diego, CA  to have enough SM and Costoluto Genovese to bottle up this year.

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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2014, 10:19:52 PM »
Craig,

Your Neapolitan sauce made from your tomatoes looks great!  I might have to try your method when my tomatoes are plentiful.

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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 10:23:05 PM »
I've got 24 SM plants I grew from imported seed in the garden now.  I'm happy with what we do with fresh tomatoes but I'll give your way a try...hopefully we have a bumper crop.

Franci ( grow Italian) seeds? Wish I had enough room for 24 plats of SM. Have you tried Pienolo vesuvio or principe borghuese?  At least the former is listed for VPM, even though most use them for drying.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2014, 11:38:48 PM »
Franci ( grow Italian) seeds? Wish I had enough room for 24 plats of SM. Have you tried Pienolo vesuvio or principe borghuese?  At least the former is listed for VPM, even though most use them for drying.

I actually started 54 plants from seed and gave away all but 24.   They are second gen seeds from another fellow FB member that got them...I know  nothing beyond that they are SM seed from Italy.  I wish I had a time machine....my great grandmother usually had a beautiful garden and I wonder if she had seeds from the old country.

I haven't tried the two others you mentioned. What are they like?
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 11:42:57 PM »
I'd love to try some if you would send some seed at the end of the season. I've never grown a SM.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 11:50:41 PM »
It's been a struggle, mainly because of the garbage soil I have here, and it's been super hot with little rain. Up in CT, I had 18" of black fertile topsoil because at one time it was a pasture....and not a stone in the ground until you went in the woods...that's a rarity in New England I assure you.

They are doing ok, though...I've picked a couple of those gross horn worms off, and some times there is  a little blossom end rot.  Took care of that with a better watering schedule and rot-stop... there is a lot of fruit coming in now.

Yeah, I'll send you seeds if you want.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 11:54:55 PM »
From a couple weeks ago....
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2014, 11:58:39 PM »
Sevin spray on the hose kicks hornworm ass. I saw one worm a month ago and soaked the whole thing real good with sevin. There hasn't been a bug on them since. It's very safe for humans and dogs.
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 12:09:00 AM »
Pesticides are no bueno around here...we are organic gardeners.  I don't know a lot about sevin, but from what little I've read it doesn't seem like it's that safe.  Those horn worms are voracious aren't they?  I hate them so much.....
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 12:59:15 AM »
Pesticides are no bueno around here...we are organic gardeners.  I don't know a lot about sevin, but from what little I've read it doesn't seem like it's that safe.  Those horn worms are voracious aren't they?  I hate them so much.....

I tried the organic thing last year - fish fertilizer and seaweed. I picked the worms off by hand and put them under the wheel of my truck and ran over them. Green crap squired all over the driveway, but the stubborn things didn't get the message and came back. That was the end of the organic gardening.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2014, 07:30:22 AM »
I don't have a paved driveway, so I practice my fastball, and the nearest tree is the catcher.  The green goo....oh, the green goo!
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »
I actually started 54 plants from seed and gave away all but 24.   They are second gen seeds from another fellow FB member that got them...I know  nothing beyond that they are SM seed from Italy.  I wish I had a time machine....my great grandmother usually had a beautiful garden and I wonder if she had seeds from the old country.

I haven't tried the two others you mentioned. What are they like?

Personally I haven't grown them, just wondered if you did.  The are small, but they supposedly have a full truss- much like cherry and grape tom's but taste better.
For slicers, Italian red pear and cuor di bue are nice and juicy, large but wispy plants. A good roma - Speckled roman taste and looks.
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Re: Neapolitan sauce made with fresh tomatoes
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 01:26:45 PM »
I'd love to try some if you would send some seed at the end of the season. I've never grown a SM.
Craig, I can send you some Franci Sm2's, and Ridorta if want send me a PM for addy etc. The packets I got from Franci have sooo many seeds, it'll last me a lifetime.