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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2014, 09:58:51 AM »
I have all that already, thankfully.... I have a filter right after the pump, and a really nice timer I used for my soaker hoses.  I'm not sure if I'm going to go drip or spray. Any thoughts?
I use in line drip emitters- with pressure compensation, because my garden is on a slight slope. I try and keep all moisture off tomato, pepper, cucubrits ( cukes, squash) plants to avoid any fungal/bacterial diseases, so drip is best.  For other plants in cooler months ( spinach, lettuce, greens, roots crops I occasionally use a mini sprayer w/ valve to get them to germinate and establish, with drip lines for the rest of their growing length. I used to use soaker hoses, but they don't water evenly, especially on longer runs. They tend to deteriorate after a few years for me.

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2014, 01:42:58 PM »
I'm drying seed now, they should be ready within the next week or so.  I think I have enough to mail out 3 or 4 envelopes with at least 24 seeds.  PM your address if you are interested, and I'll notify when they are sent out on this thread.

And please let me know if they germinate.  I plan on drying as much as I can so I should have plenty....I hope.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2014, 05:00:35 PM »
Finally got these plants off the ground.  Not worried about neat and pretty...it's scorching hot here.  What matters, is the 'maters.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2014, 05:04:08 PM »
And a note to those that pm'ed me.  I will get you the seeds, but I won't have enough ready on this first batch to get to all of you.  I'll send out the seeds in order of those that gave me addresses.  I don't think I'll have trouble getting any to all of you, I'll hopefully have fruit until November!
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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2014, 08:48:56 PM »
Today's pick....
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« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2014, 09:59:03 PM »
Thank you very much for you generosity!!! Very nice of you!

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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2014, 08:49:48 PM »
Norma, Karl, Craig and Chad,


I am mailing out your seeds on Monday..I'm leaving home early in the morning and it might rain, so I don't want wet envelopes for the mailman.  I put 30 seeds in each.  I know everyone has their own way to start seed, but I used peat pellets to start 54 plants and everyone germinated. 

Best to you growers of third gen heirloom SM's.   I'll have plenty more seed too.
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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2014, 08:52:15 PM »
Norma, Karl, Craig and Chad,


I am mailing out your seeds on Monday..I'm leaving home early in the morning and it might rain, so I don't want wet envelopes for the mailman.  I put 30 seeds in each.  I know everyone has their own way to start seed, but I used peat pellets to start 54 plants and everyone germinated. 

Best to you growers of third gen heirloom SM's.   I'll have plenty more seed too.

Thanks again!
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Re: Organic San Marzanos
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2014, 09:30:37 PM »
Are your seeds determinates?  I like the PVC cages, clever.

I'd love seeds, but I'm moving next year and won't be growing anything. Hope you're still around in 2016  :D


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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2014, 09:35:52 PM »
Norma, Karl, Craig and Chad,


I am mailing out your seeds on Monday..I'm leaving home early in the morning and it might rain, so I don't want wet envelopes for the mailman.  I put 30 seeds in each.  I know everyone has their own way to start seed, but I used peat pellets to start 54 plants and everyone germinated. 

Best to you growers of third gen heirloom SM's.   I'll have plenty more seed too.

Thank you very very much!!!

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« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2014, 09:48:34 PM »
Are your seeds determinates?  I like the PVC cages, clever.

I'd love seeds, but I'm moving next year and won't be growing anything. Hope you're still around in 2016  :D

Indeterminates.  Seeds don't go bad if they stay dry.... If you would like some, pm your address. I have another 30 ready to go.  I'm drying another batch too.
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2014, 10:00:31 PM »
Indeterminates.  Seeds don't go bad if they say dry.... If you would like some, pm your address. I have another 30 ready to go.  I'm drying another batch too.

Sent you a PM.

They seem short for indeterminates, but I like that.

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Re: Organic San Marzanos
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2014, 10:46:09 PM »
Norma, Karl, Craig and Chad,


I am mailing out your seeds on Monday..I'm leaving home early in the morning and it might rain, so I don't want wet envelopes for the mailman.  I put 30 seeds in each.  I know everyone has their own way to start seed, but I used peat pellets to start 54 plants and everyone germinated. 

Best to you growers of third gen heirloom SM's.   I'll have plenty more seed too.

Thanks so much stonecutter,  Do you think they will grow enough this year from seed?  I kind of have my doubts about that in my area.

Norma

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2014, 10:54:59 PM »
It might be too late for your area Norma, but why not start some anyway?  I'll have plenty of seed for spring...and you can start them in peat pellets and seed trays in time for an early spring planting.
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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2014, 11:01:51 PM »
Sent you a PM.

They seem short for indeterminates, but I like that.

SM are heirloom plants, most of those are indeterminates.
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« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2014, 09:06:05 AM »
Speaking of indeterminate, when I pulled out my tomatoes last week, I had Sweet 100 vines that measured 12'
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Re: Organic San Marzanos
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2014, 09:18:13 AM »
It might be too late for your area Norma, but why not start some anyway?  I'll have plenty of seed for spring...and you can start them in peat pellets and seed trays in time for an early spring planting.

stonecutter,

I have no problem with starting some of your seeds now.  Do you recall how long it was from the time you planted the seeds in peat pellets until you had ripe organic San Marzanos?  I will save some of your seeds for a early spring planting.

Thanks again!

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« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2014, 02:26:35 PM »
http://www.garden.org/articles/articles.php?q=show&id=68

http://bonnieplants.com/2011/07/tomato-plants-not-setting-fruit-heres-why/

Even though I do not know a lot about pizza, except that it is good, even when it is bad, I can be a pretty decent gardener when I put my mind to it.  I knew both of the above about tomatoes and thought I would let you all know, too. Bees, or lack of, can be a factor, but temps in other parts of the country contribute.  Even though I know all this, I still am getting the blossom end rot on my San Marzanos.  This is the first year I have grown them, but, I bastardized an Earth Box, no bottom plate, water wicking soil and no top cover.  So I have to water them deeply. every. single. day.  2 plants in there and they are going totally nuts, not sure what I will do to tie them up.  Being this is Seattle, they will probably go fairly late in the year.  In the past I have had cherry tomatoes get so top heavy they blew over in a good breeze, and they were is a good sized pot.
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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2014, 04:32:28 PM »
I agree with both articles. This year has been especially challenging for me due to weather, and possibly lack of bees. At the farmers market, I overheard discussions of how this year has been difficult for them too, they think it's mostly a pollination issue.

About a month or two ago my cucumbers started to flower. I noticed a couple bees going crazy for the cucumbers, something I did not notice with the tomatoes. My cherry tomatoes were flowering again around the same time as the cucumbers, and they look terrific right now with lots of fruit. I think bee's make a difference, even with self pollinating tomatoes. I've decided to grow cucumbers every year just to attract bees.

http://www.garden.org/articles/articles.php?q=show&id=68

http://bonnieplants.com/2011/07/tomato-plants-not-setting-fruit-heres-why/

Even though I do not know a lot about pizza, except that it is good, even when it is bad, I can be a pretty decent gardener when I put my mind to it.  I knew both of the above about tomatoes and thought I would let you all know, too. Bees, or lack of, can be a factor, but temps in other parts of the country contribute.  Even though I know all this, I still am getting the blossom end rot on my San Marzanos.  This is the first year I have grown them, but, I bastardized an Earth Box, no bottom plate, water wicking soil and no top cover.  So I have to water them deeply. every. single. day.  2 plants in there and they are going totally nuts, not sure what I will do to tie them up.  Being this is Seattle, they will probably go fairly late in the year.  In the past I have had cherry tomatoes get so top heavy they blew over in a good breeze, and they were is a good sized pot.
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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2014, 05:05:16 PM »
stonecutter,

I have no problem with starting some of your seeds now.  Do you recall how long it was from the time you planted the seeds in peat pellets until you had ripe organic San Marzanos?  I will save some of your seeds for a early spring planting.

Thanks again!

Norma

Norma,

I didn't write it down, but based on the dates of some posts on the other forum I'd say 6-8 weeks from seed to first harvest.
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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2014, 05:15:33 PM »
Norma,

I didn't write it down, but based on the dates of some posts on the other forum I'd say 6-8 weeks from seed to first harvest.

stonecutter,

Thank you! 

Norma

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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2014, 06:21:31 PM »
The seeds went out today, everyone. Please let me know when you get them, and if they look satisfactory.  If not, I'll mail out some more.
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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2014, 09:22:54 PM »
The seeds went out today, everyone. Please let me know when you get them, and if they look satisfactory.  If not, I'll mail out some more.

stonecutter,

I received my Organic San Marzano seeds today.  They look great!  I will get busy tomorrow and plant some seeds.

Thanks so much!

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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2014, 10:23:08 PM »
Great! You're very welcome!
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« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2014, 10:48:12 AM »
I got the seeds. Thank you again.

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