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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 06:15:19 PM »
I am a lot OCD (I am a sorter), but I still always manage to get my pictures rightside up.
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 06:24:13 PM »
Because modicum of professionalism is such a bad thing? I appreciate your (albeit indirect) honesty that such things are not important to you.

It was a bit tongue in cheek. I'm more of a free market guy. People who don't post pics correctly get less comments, more complaints, and eventually learn to fix them on their own to elicit more response.

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 06:27:25 PM »
hang `em high!   >:(
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 06:38:32 PM »
It's just common courtesy. Take an extra two seconds and do it right. If you can't take that tiny bit of effort, why on God's green Earth should anyone take your pizza seriously.
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2014, 06:59:15 PM »
I am a lot OCD (I am a sorter)....

Then I bet your supply yard is the neatest, most organized yard that side of the Mississippi!

Btw, I've seen a lot of forum pics that look better upside down.
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2014, 07:04:20 PM »
It's just common courtesy. Take an extra two seconds and do it right. If you can't take that tiny bit of effort, why on God's green Earth should anyone take your pizza seriously.

I honestly try to re-read my posts for goofed up links, pics or just plain booze induced gibberish and make appropriate changes. And you're right, not that difficult seeing the "modify" icon is right there. Many forums don't have this feature, it's very nice to have and more should use it!!

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2014, 08:13:41 PM »
Hello, professional image editing programmer chiming in.

There's a little tag inside JPEGs that tells the software displaying it which way the orientation for the image is (see http://sylvana.net/jpegcrop/exif_orientation.html for more info).  So a camera (which traditionally has had little cpu power) can worry about taking pictures as fast as it can, rather than stopping and rotating pixels around.  The camera will then add this tag and the viewing software will do the rotation later on.

So the problem isn't with the iPhone (or other mobile phones and cameras that do this), it's with the software on the forum side which is processing it- it's not interpreting the JPEG images correctly.

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2014, 08:31:54 PM »
If the forum administrators can put in that fix easily, then that seems like a plan.  No more pizza hanging from the ceiling.

If not, then perhaps a simple (boldface?) note where you "Choose File" asking the poster to be sure their photo is right side up before posting.


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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2014, 08:35:07 PM »
Hello, professional image editing programmer chiming in.

There's a little tag inside JPEGs that tells the software displaying it which way the orientation for the image is (see http://sylvana.net/jpegcrop/exif_orientation.html for more info).  So a camera (which traditionally has had little cpu power) can worry about taking pictures as fast as it can, rather than stopping and rotating pixels around.  The camera will then add this tag and the viewing software will do the rotation later on.

So the problem isn't with the iPhone (or other mobile phones and cameras that do this), it's with the software on the forum side which is processing it- it's not interpreting the JPEG images correctly.

That's interesting. 

How come that changes when I upload an image after I edit and save it twice?   I'm asking because I have no clue...I was experimenting after getting frustrated trying to get uploaded images oriented correctly from my iPad.   I discovered that after I took my image ( which was oriented normally but uploaded sideways) if I rotated it 90degrees, saved it, then immediately reedit it back to correct orientation, the image loaded the proper way.  Why did that work?

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2014, 08:40:57 PM »
How come that changes when I upload an image after I edit and save it twice?

When an editor opens up the image, it'll read the tag and orient things correctly before it puts it into memory to work on.  Then you make changes to it (crop, filter, whatever) and when it's saved back as a JPEG, there's no need to flip things around again - just don't write out the tag, because everything is already right side up.  It'd be more work to swap things around and put the orientation back to how it originally was.


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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2014, 08:42:01 PM »
If not, then perhaps a simple (boldface?) note where you "Choose File" asking the poster to be sure their photo is right side up before posting.

That won't work, because it will look right side up to whomever took the picture- the software on the camera side is going to do the right thing to display it.

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2014, 09:03:27 PM »
That won't work, because it will look right side up to whomever took the picture- the software on the camera side is going to do the right thing to display it.

I do not know why that would not be possible.  I just used "Preview" on my Mac to flip a picture and then save it.  Seems to work fine.  Stonecutter did it with his software (don't know what) in Reply 5 and i did it in Reply 13.



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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2014, 09:42:50 PM »
I do not know why that would not be possible.  I just used "Preview" on my Mac to flip a picture and then save it.  Seems to work fine.  Stonecutter did it with his software (don't know what) in Reply 5 and i did it in Reply 13.

I tried that on another forum but not here.  Every time I hit preview it would show the picture correctly, but then when I posted, it would be flipped.  The only thing that worked was this weird double edit/save.   Also, on other forums with a multiple attachment feature, I could only get one pic uploaded per post....every new upload replaced the previous one....it's maddening.  But I think it worked on this forum for some reason.

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2014, 10:52:54 PM »
I'd rather obsess about eating and making pizza than how some people's pictures appear on the forum.  I keep an open mind that some people are more tech savvy than others.  (But I am OCD and DO try to make the effort that my own posts are somewhat accurate).
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2014, 11:02:46 PM »
I'd rather obsess about eating and making pizza than how some people's pictures appear on the forum.  I keep an open mind that some people are more tech savvy than others.  (But I am OCD and DO try to make the effort that my own posts are somewhat accurate).
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2014, 11:16:02 PM »
I do not know why that would not be possible.  I just used "Preview" on my Mac to flip a picture and then save it.  Seems to work fine.  Stonecutter did it with his software (don't know what) in Reply 5 and i did it in Reply 13.

Right- capture + edit + save + upload will make OK jpegs 99.9% of the time.
capture + upload might not, depending on the orientation of the camera when the picture was taken.  So the notice should say "please edit and save before uploading". Or the forum should get a fix on the server side.

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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2014, 11:20:36 PM »
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2014, 11:22:49 PM »
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2014, 09:02:56 AM »
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Re: Time to ban iPhone photos!
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2014, 04:02:04 PM »
I have not used Tap Text (TT) but remember that other members had trouble with TT & picture orientation.  On my desktop/laptop it's easy because I look at the pictures in another app (iPhoto) and reorient them as needed.  However, on an iPad (or other tablet?)  this does not seem to be as straight forward as the images are saved into a folder w/o editing options AFAIK.  Please correct me if I'm uninformed.

I always wondered why when one previews a post, only the text message displays - not the photos - until you post? Then one needs to modify - which in some cases - as per the above - means just deleting the photo &/or post until you can get to a system with more options.  Im guessing it's because until you post the images have not been uploaded to the host. If it was possible - that would be helpful.

I imagine there are many iPad apps for editing pics.  However, I have not been able how to do it inside "photo."  Recommendations?  Besides moving to a Android/Windows Phone/Symbian platform?
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