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Re: A PHILOSOPHY OF PIZZA NAPOLETANISMO!
« Reply #2740 on: February 23, 2015, 11:19:15 AM »
Dear TXCraig1,

It is an interesting thought that the sinful nature and not the survival instinct is responsible for cheating lying and fighting. I wished we could set up an experiment:
A person where all his or her wishes are fulfilled. Fulfilled materially and morally, except with regards to the behavior of other beings. Under what circumstances such a person would lie, cheat or fight others?
Perhaps we can make a thought experiment...
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It not the question of are the wished fulfilled that is relevant but rather what are the wishes of the person.
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« Reply #2741 on: February 23, 2015, 07:47:19 PM »
It not the question of are the wished fulfilled that is relevant but rather what are the wishes of the person.

The interesting issue is whether someone would resort to lies, cheating, fighting etc if he needs not to fight for survival and moreover if his wishes are fulfilled. I believe it is the priviledge of Gods not to fight for survival and to have all their wishes fulfilled. As long as there is no further longing for anything, there cannot exist an urge to cheat or lie to someone, except out of boredom. A materially and morally fulfilled entity has no reason to resort to stealing, murdering, lying or fighting for property or person.
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« Reply #2742 on: February 23, 2015, 08:12:47 PM »
As long as there is no further longing for anything,

It's man's sinful nature that drives the longing. If we had no sin, we would long for nothing.
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« Reply #2743 on: February 23, 2015, 09:32:53 PM »
It is impossible to fulfill the never ending wishes of the sin nature or man's ego.  It's a never ending well. 

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« Reply #2744 on: February 24, 2015, 03:38:47 AM »
It's man's sinful nature that drives the longing. If we had no sin, we would long for nothing.

The longing is driven by unfulfilled needs or wishes, whether or not originating from a "sinful" nature. If they are fulfilled, then there is no more longing. At the point of fulfillment man becomes impervious to lying, cheating and antisocial behavior. There is no need for the latter,  as, literally, there is no need to have what he already has.

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« Reply #2745 on: February 24, 2015, 03:44:00 AM »
It is impossible to fulfill the never ending wishes of the sin nature or man's ego.  It's a never ending well. 

Perhaps this is not too bad after all. Wishes give meaning to life. With lack of wishes what life can we expect to live? Or, why to live it?

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« Reply #2746 on: February 24, 2015, 09:40:43 AM »
The longing is driven by unfulfilled needs or wishes, whether or not originating from a "sinful" nature. If they are fulfilled, then there is no more longing. At the point of fulfillment man becomes impervious to lying, cheating and antisocial behavior. There is no need for the latter,  as, literally, there is no need to have what he already has.

For the man who will lie and/or cheat, there will never be fulfillment. There will always be longing for something else.
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« Reply #2747 on: February 24, 2015, 11:24:04 AM »
For the man who will lie and/or cheat, there will never be fulfillment. There will always be longing for something else.
In his case, there is probably something intrinsically wrong with this man leading to lying and cheating. Having fulfilled all needs and wishes, insisting on antisocial behavior is rather some kind of derangement or illness and surely not a voluntary condition.

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« Reply #2748 on: February 24, 2015, 11:37:13 AM »
In his case, there is probably something intrinsically wrong with this man leading to lying and cheating. Having fulfilled all needs and wishes, insisting on antisocial behavior is rather some kind of derangement or illness and surely not a voluntary condition.

I disagree. I think any man who will resort to lying and cheating to get what he wants will never be satisfied with what he has. Even if a man who lies and cheats can be satisfied, the lying and cheating employed to fill his wishes is every bit as intrinsically wrong as any lying and cheating thereafter.
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« Reply #2749 on: February 24, 2015, 05:35:57 PM »
I disagree. I think any man who will resort to lying and cheating to get what he wants will never be satisfied with what he has. Even if a man who lies and cheats can be satisfied, the lying and cheating employed to fill his wishes is every bit as intrinsically wrong as any lying and cheating thereafter.


We are taking off on different tangents, not writing about the same thing. Perhaps we need a break to reflect and continue at a later time.


 

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