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Peter those are some great ideas and methods for replicating the sauce. I may really do that someday BUT for now, this sauce comes extremely close. I made a Pizza Butt pan pizza using the dough recipe on this forum and the sauce (posted above) tonight and I was Truely Amazed! It was so very close. The only thing that was off was that my crust was a bit thicker than theirs but that's an easy fix. The softness of the dough was right on, the oil crunch of the bottom was right on, the sauce was right on. If I had served it to friends in a PH box, they wouldn't know any better. It was so very tasty and a nice change from NY style.