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Vantia Tomatoes
« on: September 07, 2004, 11:31:47 AM »
Also, I'm hooked on Vantia sauce - used by DiFara's as specfied here

Where did you get your Vantia tomatoes?
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Vantia Tomatoes
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 01:30:54 PM »
Steve,
Although I'm in Virginia my parents still live in NYC and continue my quest - I haven't gotten them to rumage through garbage bins, but they have no problem asking for samples and recipes  :)  

They found it in a pork store in Queens where they specialize in fresh mozz - I think they said the price was only $1+/per can.    I only have 3 cans (28oz-like size cans) left and hopefully they will come to visit soon with a case or two.

I did find it here also:
http://www.guilianos.com/shop/itm00282.htm
although they spelled it wrong on the web page - "Vanita"

I don't know if the pork store will ship, but let me find out and post again since I'm more likely to run out myself before my parents come visit.


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Re:Vantia Tomatoes
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 09:59:13 AM »
My parents bought the Vantia (and the best fresh mozz money can buy and used by a couple of the "famous" NY pizza places) from Corona Heights Pork Store in Corona (Queens) NY

718 592-7350

google them and you'll see lots of kudos.

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Re:Vantia Tomatoes
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 03:02:51 PM »
Arthur and Steve,

I was doing some research today on San Marzano tomatoes and found what appears to be a good place to buy canned San Marzanos at very reasonable prices.  It is Venda Ravioli, at http://www.vendaravioli.com/index.php.  It is located in Providence, RI, and carries a wide variety of Italian food products.  From a Google search, I also learned that it was featured on one of the Food Network Ciao America segments (Food Finds) with Mario Batali.  

From the Venda Ravioli website, I saw that Venda Ravioli carries the Vantia brand of San Marzano tomatoes at $1.29 a can.  This is the non-DOP Vantia San Marzanos (Arthur, the Giuliano's Vantia is also non-DOP).  When I didn't see the DOP Vantia's at the Venda Ravioli website, I called and asked whether the Vantia DOP version was also available.  I was told that it is, at $2.09 a can.  I asked whether there would be a price break if a case were to be ordered and whether there was a way of ordering a case at the website, as by using the comment box.  The answer again was yes, but the person I spoke to suggested that one call them in advance (at the telephone number posted at the website) and ask to speak with Robert Coccia, who apparently is the guy responsible for web sales and would be able to quote specific prices and advise as to how to consummate the purchase via the website.  It sounds like the discount for case purchases would be about 15 to 20 cents a can.  I would advise checking out the website before calling to be sure of can sizes, confirm actual prices, etc.  

I also asked about two other brands of DOP San Marzano tomatoes I saw at the website: Famoso and LaRegina.  Famoso is located in the Northeast and distributes to places like Whole Foods and similar outlets.  I have tried the Famoso San Marzanos and they are a good product.  I have also tried the LaRegina brand of San Marzanos and I liked them even better than the Famoso brand.  I bought the LaRegina DOPs online from Salumeria Italiana in Boston and paid around $4.50 for the can (or $45 for a case of 12).  Venda Ravioli sells the same thing for $2.29 a can (and cheaper yet if bought by the case).   Of course, shipping costs (they use UPS) have to be added to the cost of the tomatoes.

Over time, I have created a list of brands of tomatoes that I know to be DOP San Marzanos.   I have tried several of them with pretty much equal success, although there are slight differences among them.   For those who are interested, the list includes the following brands: La Valle (which also has a non-DOP version), Strianese, Famoso, La Regina, Italbrand, La Fede, AnnalisA, Cento, Vantia, Gerardo diNola, viviTALIA, and Pastene.  

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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 08:25:36 AM »
Thanks for your research! I'll have to buy a can or two from them.  :)
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 09:44:19 AM »
They have a $15 minimum order. And, I couldn't find any shipping cost information.
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Re:Vantia Tomatoes
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2004, 11:03:43 AM »
Steve,

Thanks for the information on minimum orders.  I should add that question to the list of questions I toss at suppliers.  Since I was told that shipping is by UPS, I assumed that the normal UPS charges would apply, with Ground being the usual way for goods that are not perishable.  It's still a good question to ask though to be sure that you know what the shipping charges will be.  I usually also ask if there are any hidden handling charges involved, although I didn't think to ask that question either.

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Re:Vantia Tomatoes
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2004, 09:34:28 AM »
Steve,

[sorry, I've been away from the boards for a while]...

I can send you 2 cans of Vantia sauce (not the DOC kind) if you want to try it.   No charge since you've been so helpful.  Email me your address.

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2005, 03:50:20 PM »
In an earlier post in this thread I had indicated that I thought I had found a good place to buy San Marzano tomatoes--Venda Ravioli in Providence, R.I. I came to this conclusion mainly because I thought the base prices were among the lowest around. I subsequently also saw that their shipping charges were relatively low because they were based on the dollar amount of the purchase rather than on actual weight. It also appeared that discounts would be offered based on volume purchases.

Because of the above reasons, I recently decided to place an order for some San Marzanos from Venda. When I didn't see several of the brands that were on their Website the last time I looked, particularly some of the DOP-designated San Marzanos (like the Vantia DOPs), I called Venda and spoke with their Internet specialist. I was told that San Marzanos are increasingly difficult to find, especially at decent price points, and, for that reason, Venda has been reluctant to promote particular brands only to be forced to remove them from the Website when the prices went up more than Venda was willing to pay.

I also discovered that while their basic prices still remain low compared with others, Venda is not now offering volume discounts and, moreover, they are changing their shipping charges so that shipping is now based on actual weight. When I threatened to cancel my "order" for a mixed case of LaRegina and Famoso DOPs (they are not now offering the Vantia DOPs), Venda relented and offered to forego some of the shipping charges in order to keep me as a customer. I accepted this arrangement and ordered six cans of the LaRegina DOPs and six cans of the Famoso DOPs. The price for the LaReginas was $3.09 a can (up from their previous price but still lower than the $4.50 I had paid before from another source) and the Famoso's were $2.09 a can, a good price for the DOPs. Were it not for the concession on shipping, I would not have placed the order, even though I think the LaRegina's, especially, are one of the best San Marzanos around. I received the shipment today, as had been promised.

Based on my experience with Venda, my best advice to those who are looking for San Marzanos from any online or mail order source is to call the source and ask which products are available and at what price per unit. As indicated above, not all products actually offered are listed on vendors' Websites (another good example of this is PennMac). And ask about shipping charges and possible discounts. Some places also have minimums or special charges (that may be hidden until checkout) that you should be aware of. For heavy products, like canned tomatoes and flour, shipping charges based on the value of the order are likely to be better than charges based on weight (as everyone who has ever ordered KA Sir Lancelot flour already knows).

Peter
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