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My 1st attempts at NY style.
« on: April 28, 2007, 12:50:27 PM »
Hello. I made 2 pizzas this afternoon. I tried to follow the lehmann's recipe as much as i could but didnt have a kitchen scale, so the ingredients were mostly approximate values. pizza stone was heated at 550 degrees for 1 hr followed by high broiling for 20 mins.
Below is the 1st one,  it was terrible. The top was done in 5 mins but the crust was very chewy and had not browned very well on the bottom.

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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 12:54:27 PM »
This is the second one. The crust was a little darker and slightly better. It took about 5 mins, but the whole cheese had burned until then :(

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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »
 Pizza-anytime,
  Can you provide more detail of the formula? ADY vs IDY %, salt %, was the water warm you used and at what temperature was the dough stored and for how long?? Sometimes pale crust can be fermentation issues.
 Did you actually time that 5 MINUTE bake?? It seems a little short of time to burn the top of a pizza. Although you did play with the ovens broiler element so this may have caused some of the issues with baking.
 It is really unnessary to use the broil element because the 550F oven and stone will do an adequate job baking the pizza. It should usually take about 7-8 minutes on a stone at 550F.       
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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 02:32:53 PM »
 Hi chiguy, I used ADY, a little less than half tsp, salt was abt half tsp. I used cold tap water and the dough had been refrigerated for 24 hrs.  Before baking, it sat on the counter for about 4 hrs. there was very little rise in the dough when it was in the fridge. But it had almost doubled in size once it was out. i did time the 1st pizza but forgot to do tht for the second one. i thought broiling in the last few mins would heat the surface of the stone better and provide a well done crust on the bottom. but tht didnt quite happen.
The second pizza was defninitely in the oven for a longer period and did have a better crust...still too chewy. i made the dough in bosch universal mixer, lowest speed and knead for abt 6 mins. i wonder if it was too long? the dough was very smooth and very easy to work with.

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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 04:38:26 PM »
 hi pizza-anytime,
 Well just from the amount of info you provided i can say that you dough may be under-fermented(chewy crust) and under baked as well(5min).
 I say this because ADY should be activated in warmer water at least a small part of warm water, Did you do this?? Also generally when using ADY you would also use about 30% more than when using IDY.
 How much flour did you use for that amount of yeast??
 
 Ordinarely 24 hour fridge fermentation is fine for a Lehmann dough but ADY amount should be minimum of about 0.35% and more toward0.65%. And a finished dough temperature in the 78-85F range.
 When you use cold water with potentially too low of a yeast amount as you did it may take 36 or even 48 hours before the dough is useable.
 
 When a dough is underfermented a chewy/tough crust is one of  charisteristics of the crust. This is what seems too be an issue along with improper baking times.          Chiguy

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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 06:19:34 PM »
Thanx chiguy. tht was very helpful :)

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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 01:45:36 PM »
Great style. ;)
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Re: My 1st attempts at NY style.
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 02:33:11 PM »
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