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Offline pizzaisgood

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I think I got a bag of bad flour?
« on: August 28, 2007, 06:20:50 PM »
I make my pizza's mostly with King Arthurs bread flour or Harvest king. I ended up buying some harvest king a couple of weeks ago when I ran out of KA. So far I have made 4 pizza's following my usual recipe and all of the pizza's have not browned or been good at all. The dough does not have much spring and has very few air bubbles and is very dense.  This is very uncharacteristic of my recipe.





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Re: I think I got a bag of bad flour?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 06:50:04 PM »
Sounds like maybe bad yeast to me.
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Re: I think I got a bag of bad flour?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 07:25:35 PM »
pizzaisgood,

Can you share with us the dough recipe you have been using? That might provide a few clues.

Itís also important to understand that there are differences between the King Arthur bread flour and the Harvest King flour. One of our members, November, performed various tests on the two flours and reported his results at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,4008.msg37559.html#msg37559 (Reply 21). It may well be that you will have to make a few changes to the dough formulation if you want to substitute the Harvest King flour for the King Arthur bread flour. Having compared the specs of the two flours when the Harvest King flour hit the supermarket shelves, I can tell you that the Harvest King is lower in protein and appears to have a lower absorption rate. You will also note from this link, http://www.gmflour.com/gmflour/pflour.asp, even General Mills does not include the Harvest King flour in its lists of Pizza Flours. It is included under http://www.gmflour.com/gmflour/flour.asp?type=EharvestKing, where the applications are for breads. An earlier description of the Harvest King flour at the GM website gave the applications as soft rolls, croissants, puff pastries, and pita breads. Of course, this hasnít stopped many of our members from using the flour to make pizza, with what appears to be good results. Some members even prefer it over the King Arthur bread flour.

I donít want to rule out the possibility of the flour being a bad bag. Another member (Glutenboy) also felt that he may have had a bad bag, as he reported at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,4857.msg41155/topicseen.html#msg41155.

Peter

EDIT (4/15/14): For a current link to the Harvest King flour, see http://professionalbakingsolutions.com/flour/brand/general-mills-harvest-king

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Re: I think I got a bag of bad flour?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 07:59:44 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking that it might be the yeast as well. Peter, here is a link to my recipe.

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Re: I think I got a bag of bad flour?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 08:32:06 PM »
pizzaisgood,

Looking at your recipe, I don't see anything out of order. Hydration-wise, the Harvest King flour should work. I hope that it was the yeast. That would greatly simplify the analysis. But if the yeast was OK, let us know and we can proceed from there.

Peter