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Offline sallam

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batter-like pizza dough?
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:12:29 AM »
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I read somewhere about the "pourable pizza" dough, were they use 119% hydration. I guess it was a recipe for schools.
I tried that with a pizza bianca topping (olive oil, garlic, oregano and shredded cheese) and it came out wonderful, and the kids fell in love with it. It has a thin soft and fluffy crust.

I tried to increase the thickness of the crust, but the result was no good, with uncooked inside.

Did anyone try such high hydration? I like it because there is no kneading involved, and no shaping either, you just pour the batter in the pizza tray, pre-bake then add your toppigs. Its so simple. But how can I make a thicker crust that comes out well cooked inside?

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Re: batter-like pizza dough?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 01:39:54 AM »
any hydration over 90%, despite the flour's protein content or any added gluten or other ameliorants, will require mechanical kneading (for a long-ass time on first speed; a brief stint on medium to high) in order to 'force' the gluten to accept that much water, and become completely extensible.  otherwise, absorption will be limited, and you might as well be using hydration levels below 80%.  bear in mind, the downside is oxidising the grain's flavor, but such wet doughs aren't really about exposing the grain's flavor. (jim lahey, the current proponent of no-knead doughs, only uses two doughs at sullivan st; his ciabatta and pizza bianca dough both still require mechanical mixing, after hundreds of hours of trying to make a suitable no-knead version.  his head baker surmises there would be no other benefit to having a no-knead 90%-hydration dough otherwise.)

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Re: batter-like pizza dough?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2009, 02:00:31 AM »
You're right. I don't have a dough mixer, but I do use a blender to mix the dough, only for 3 minutes, and as I pour it out, it sticks to the blades and extends beautifully. I don't add any gluten or other additives.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2009, 02:10:24 AM by sallam »

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Re: batter-like pizza dough?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2009, 09:04:52 AM »
sallam,

I believe you are referring to the pourable pizza dough recipe discussed in this thread: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7924.msg67989.html#msg67989.

I have not yet tried that recipe, but you might try baking the pizza longer at a lower oven temperature to give the dough more time to dry out and bake more completely. You may find that there is a practical limit to how thick you can make such a pizza.

With all the sugar in that recipe, did you find the finished crust to be very noticeably sweet?

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Re: batter-like pizza dough?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2009, 10:42:56 AM »
I didn't use that much sugar, and also made a few modifications. Here is my ingredients for making a rectangular 40cm X 42cm sheet:

flour 600g - 4c (1)
sugar 18g (.03)
instant yeast 3g (.005)
salt 6g (.01)
warm water 715g (1.1922)

Why did it call for that much sugar?
« Last Edit: May 03, 2009, 10:46:55 AM by sallam »