Bill, I agree with you (sorry I don't post that much, been a viewer for many years), I have worked with a couple of Fabricated Northern Italian ovens, and they are not even close to true Neopoltian ovens, as far as Marco's co. even Stefano Ferrara in Naples has no idea what special family makes his oven, and their family has been making ovens for close to 100 years. Marco contacted Ferrara a couple of years ago and wanted to represent their ovens, but things feel thru, and ever since he has been bad mouthing their ovens. I recently purchased an S.F. Allestimenti (and even Antimo Caputo raves about their ovens, I met him at the Las Vegas Pizza Expo), and I could not be happier with the service. Francesa (Stefano's wife), is the nicest lady in the world, and their ovens speak for themselves. I am curently in the process of opening a Naples style pizzeria in S. Cal (we have really bad pizza here), so the oven and my Pietroberto diving hands mixer are on the way. And I probably shouldn't even tell anyone, but this forum is the best knowledge of pizza info: Stefano Ferra Mobile ovens are now UL CERTIFIED in the U.S. ( I have been waiting for the last year). p.s. don't tell anyone. here is a pic of my baby BRUNO.