The HJ review doesn't surprise me a bit. I'm from the original home of Happy Joe's, and worked at "The Rock" HJ during High School in the 80's. Living in Des Moines, we still order HJ occasionally, but over the past several years their consistency has dropped tremendously. One out of every 5 visits we get one of the 'old school' varieties that ends up being almost perfect and lives up to the memories. 3 of 5, we get a less than middle of the road variety that just simply isn't up to expectations, and 20% of the time, we don't eat it because it's on the raw or burnt side. Quality has not followed their growth over the years...or maybe I've just become pickier!