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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1175 on: August 08, 2012, 08:14:28 AM »
I still am having problems of not knowing how to change the dough for another Mack’s attempt. 

Norma,

You might try just lowering the thickness factor and see if that gets you closer to the results you are looking for. That might also correct the breadiness problem you mentioned by creating a smaller rim when forming the skin. If you think that you have been using too much salt, then that can also be reduced. For now, I think I would leave the oil quantity alone. That is something that can be addressed later if need be.

In some respects, you may be chasing a moving target because of the lack of uniformity and consistency of the Mack's pizzas. So, it is perhaps better to capture in your own mind what characteristics of the Mack's pizzas you want and strive to achieve them as best your can. Otherwise, you will be chasing your tail all the time. It's too bad that you can't just buy a dough ball. That would tell us a lot.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1176 on: August 08, 2012, 11:20:01 AM »
Norma,

You might try just lowering the thickness factor and see if that gets you closer to the results you are looking for. That might also correct the breadiness problem you mentioned by creating a smaller rim when forming the skin. If you think that you have been using too much salt, then that can also be reduced. For now, I think I would leave the oil quantity alone. That is something that can be addressed later if need be.

In some respects, you may be chasing a moving target because of the lack of uniformity and consistency of the Mack's pizzas. So, it is perhaps better to capture in your own mind what characteristics of the Mack's pizzas you want and strive to achieve them as best your can. Otherwise, you will be chasing your tail all the time. It's too bad that you can't just buy a dough ball. That would tell us a lot.

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Peter,

Thanks for telling me to just lower the TF for my next attempt.  I have no idea of how hot the oven was running when my daughter purchased me those slices, but they sure were different than what I had before.  The sauce and cheese taste were there, but the crust wasn’t.  I picked those two slices apart really well.  I really like the salt amount in your formulation, so I don’t think I would change that.  

I know I might be chasing a moving target, because the last two slices I had were sure different than what I had at Mack’s before.  My daughter told me she asked for two slices to bring home.  The man that waited on her just put the two slices on paper plates.  She then asked for a box.  She said the man just shoved the two slices in the box,  That is how part of the cheese and sauce came off part of the one slice at the edge.  

I would like to move closer to a real Mack’s pizza, but think the sauce and cheese are the most important issues right now.  I would be satisfied if my crust ended up tasting better than a real Mack’s pizza.

I know being able to have a real Mack’s dough ball could tell us a lot.  I might be going to Wildwood in September if everything works out.  I don’t think Mack’s will sell a dough ball though.  I tried purchasing one before.  

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1177 on: August 11, 2012, 06:03:48 AM »
I'm heading down to Cape May on the14th.  Last year, the pizza destination was Mack's.  This year it's M&M in OC.  I also want to stop in Seaside on the way home and get a slice from the Sawmill.  I have fond memories from back in my 20's getting a giant slice from a 27" pie and a Coke for $1.25.
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1178 on: August 11, 2012, 08:54:26 AM »
I'm heading down to Cape May on the14th.  Last year, the pizza destination was Mack's.  This year it's M&M in OC.  I also want to stop in Seaside on the way home and get a slice from the Sawmill.  I have fond memories from back in my 20's getting a giant slice from a 27" pie and a Coke for $1.25.

jkb,

I will be interested in how you compare Mack's pizza to Manco and Manco.  I think they taste almost the same, but are a little different.  This year was the first time I tasted a Manco and Manco pizza. 

Wow, I don't think I ever saw a 27" pizza.  :o  That sure is a big pizza.   :-D

I don't think Manco and Manco sells dough balls, but maybe if you like, you could ask.  Getting a hold of dough, or a dough ball could give us more information.

Have a fun time at the the shore!  ;D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1179 on: August 12, 2012, 10:27:38 AM »
I was reading an article on America's Best Boardwalks, and Wildwood is on the list: http://www.smartertravel.com/photo-galleries/editorial/americas-best-boardwalks.html?id=190&photo=25822&max_photos=7. I was looking at the Wildwood photo to see if I could spot Norma dumpster diving, but I could not find that.

Wildwood is the only NJ boardwald on the list.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1180 on: August 12, 2012, 12:05:52 PM »
Norma only works under the cover of darkness, in the wee hours of the night. >:D :-D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1181 on: August 12, 2012, 12:44:24 PM »
I was reading an article on America's Best Boardwalks, and Wildwood is on the list: http://www.smartertravel.com/photo-galleries/editorial/americas-best-boardwalks.html?id=190&photo=25822&max_photos=7. I was looking at the Wildwood photo to see if I could spot Norma dumpster diving, but I could find that.

Wildwood is the only NJ boardwald on the list.

Peter

Peter,

Thanks for the link!

In my opinion Wildwood, NJ is a great place to vacation and I can see why Wildwood would be in the top 10 boardwalks.  What more could anyone ask for than the ocean, gentle breezes, beautiful sunrises and sunsets, rides, beaches, bike riding on the boardwalk, old doo whop stuff, Mack’s Pizza, memories and so much more.  I love walking the boardwalk and watching all the people.  I follow Wildwood365 on facebook.  I saw on their facebook page this week that there was the annual Pizza Tour this past Friday where they rate the best pizzeria, but I haven’t heard who won this year.  I don’t do twitter.  This was the Wildwood Pizza Tour  http://www.wildwoodpizzatour.com/pizza-tour-2012-on-friday/ this year.  I did see commenter’s that were on the tour on facebook and those comments were funny.  There is even a Ghosts of Wildwood facebook page.  I press like on different pictures Wildwood365 posts.  At one point in my life, (when I was a younger teen) I thought I wanted to live and work in Wildwood all my life.  :-D

This is one picture I posted that I liked.  I think it is beautiful.  :)

Steve is right about the dumpster diving, except I have done a little more. >:D

Norma 

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1182 on: August 12, 2012, 12:46:18 PM »
Hey, I found a picture of Norma dumpster diving...   ;)

http://thevinylvillage.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/1lg3fancyladybum.jpg   ;D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1183 on: August 12, 2012, 12:46:51 PM »
Norma only works under the cover of darkness, in the wee hours of the night. >:D :-D

Steve,

Would you like to join me sometime?   :-D :angel: ;D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1185 on: August 12, 2012, 10:55:21 PM »
Steve,

Would you like to join me sometime?   :-D :angel: ;D

Norma

Sure Norma. I'd go slummin' with you anytime! 'Course, I'd have to clear it with my wife first! :-[ :-D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1186 on: August 12, 2012, 10:58:10 PM »
Sure Norma. I'd go slummin' with you anytime! 'Course, I'd have to clear it with my wife first! :-[ :-D

Steve,

Your wife could also go along.  I don't know what she would think about dumpster diving though.   :-D  I guess she would just probably laugh.

Norma

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1187 on: August 13, 2012, 07:26:47 AM »
I am still waiting to hear who won the Pizza Tour in Wildwood for 2012. 

If anyone is interested it says in this link for the Pizza Tour in 2011,  “We apologize for this first-time cliche, but at the end of the day, Mack’s Pizza tore it up in 2011. A beautiful blend of sauce and cheese with a perfect sprinkling of exceptionally delicious spice made this slice just right. Seriously, just try it.”  http://www.wildwoodpizzatour.com/pizza-tour-2011/ 

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1188 on: August 13, 2012, 07:32:23 AM »
I really don’t know what other members think, but I think memories are powerful.  I had posted that I had great memories of Mack’s pizza and Wildwood.  These are a few pictures I copied off of facebook under pictures Wildwood365 posts each day and also under Wildwood Memories & Nostalgia.  I remember many pictures from Wildwood Memories & Nostalgia.  Those things are not in Wildwood anymore.  I remember going on the ride “The H**L Hole” with my dad for the first time many years ago.  That was one of the wildest rides I ever was one.  It spun you around so fast that there was no way you would become unstuck from that wall.  That ride hasn’t been in Wildwood for many years, but my memories go back to going on that ride with my dad.

Bobby Rydell that I saw in Wildwood and sang, “Wildwood Days“, just had double transplant surgery recently and is doing well. 

Time flies so fast in life and memories are what you cherish, at least in my opinion.   

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1189 on: August 13, 2012, 07:33:52 AM »
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1190 on: August 13, 2012, 07:37:13 AM »
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1191 on: August 13, 2012, 05:42:50 PM »
Beautiful photos, Norma! Made me smile... and I agree with you wholeheartedly regarding those kind of memories.
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1192 on: August 13, 2012, 06:42:21 PM »
Beautiful photos, Norma! Made me smile... and I agree with you wholeheartedly regarding those kind of memories.

Marie,

Thanks!  :)

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1193 on: August 13, 2012, 06:44:02 PM »
I lowered the TF for the Mack’s attempt and mixed the dough this morning.  This dough ball sure didn’t look very big to me for an 18” pizza.

Formulation I used below.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1194 on: August 13, 2012, 06:44:40 PM »
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1195 on: August 13, 2012, 07:08:33 PM »
Lol, I think I know why my dough ball was so small now.  :-D I think I should have put 0.7785 as the TF in the Expanded Dough Calculation Tool instead of the TF I put in of 0.07785.  I just thought about that.  Now I don't know what size pizza I am attempting tomrorrow.  That is what I get for trying to use the Expanded Dough Calculation tool late at night and not rechecking what I did.   :-[

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1196 on: August 13, 2012, 07:11:29 PM »
Thank you for those photos from memory lane Norma, I likey.  ;)
Mr. Rydell was just awesome in Bye Bye Birdie...such a powerful performer!
Glad to hear he is doing well after his surgery....he's still a pretty good look'in guy, eh?

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« Reply #1197 on: August 13, 2012, 07:21:52 PM »
Thank you for those photos from memory lane Norma, I likey.  ;)
Mr. Rydell was just awesome in Bye Bye Birdie...such a powerful performer!
Glad to hear he is doing well after his surgery....he's still a pretty good look'in guy, eh?



Bob,

Your welcome!  :)  I always liked Bobby Rydell too.  I saw loads of singing stars at Hershey when I was a teen.  The bus that used to bring them to Hershey was called "Dick Clark's Caravan of Stars".  My girlfriends and I also went to Hershey to see them.  I was one of those young screaming teens that followed American Bandstand.  :-D  Yes, he is still pretty good looking and has a happy smile.  I don't know how old he is now.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1198 on: August 13, 2012, 07:32:42 PM »
I lowered the TF for the Mack’s attempt and mixed the dough this morning.  This dough ball sure didn’t look very big to me for an 18” pizza.

Formulation I used below.

Norma
Well, your total weight at the bottom of the calculator is showing 20.01 oz.    how much you normally use on an 18 incher Norma?
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza
« Reply #1199 on: August 13, 2012, 07:56:51 PM »
Well, your total weight at the bottom of the calculator is showing 20.01 oz.    how much you normally use on an 18 incher Norma?

Bob,

I really don’t know how to figure that out, because I used a higher TF on my other attempts for an 18“ pizza on this thread.  I will just guess how much to stretch the skin tomorrow and see what size pizza it makes.  My last attempt for a 18” pizza weighed 21.31 oz., so I guess that isn’t a lot of difference.

Norma