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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2004, 06:47:13 PM »
maybe a can of black hammerhit laque would be just right to raise your wifes appeal for the Hobart. :-\


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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2004, 01:13:03 AM »
KitchenAid woes and triumphs.

Got New Kitchenaid ;D

Change wifes mind on color to Cobalt  ;D

Made New dough  ;D

Motor sounds like the car I owned as a teenager :'(

Dough hook stopping dough to stiff for KitchenAid :'(

KitchenAid has factory motor problems >:( >:( >:(

Dough finished though ;D

KitchenAid back in box :'(

Clone of KitchAid to return next week to make more ZZA ;D

Should have bought the Pro Series......
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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2004, 12:10:05 PM »
For some reason the industrie just doesn't make things as good as they used to or are not allowed to. I think the original Kitchen Aids (or any other brand mixer as well) sold 20 or 30 years were better and more unbreakable.  

I heard or read somewhere that it has something to do with some saftey regulations for household appliances. If the kids (or an Adult) gets a hand or fingers in the apparatus.

The torque is limited or regulated by safety laws and with all the lawsuits over the last 20 or 30 years the companies try to stay on the safe side. It's kind of sad, everyone knows that when something is turned on you shouldn't be putting your fingers in the unsafe area.
 
Has anyone else heard of that as well.


We have an old hand mixer ( just 150 watts), an ugly orange colored bugger, but it mixes those heavy doughs with no problem. Made sometime in the 70's .

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2004, 12:20:29 PM »
Mine is only 10 years old but it works real well.

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2004, 12:17:34 AM »
There you go it is 10 years old, maybe thats why it works so well.

New KitchenAid out of box and on counter, but got wrapped up with kiddies today so I never even turned it on. If it does anything even remotely close to the last one I will be calling KitchenAid directely. >:(

I think I will talk softly to it before turning it on, could be a TLC thing.
My father-in-law thought it quite funny that the KitchenAid was my toy and not my wifes. ;D
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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2004, 12:50:59 PM »
I get that from time to time.  The first time we have people over for dinner many are supprised to learn I did the cooking.

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2004, 12:53:18 PM »
Oh man, I have an old SouthBend lathe in my shop that looks very similar to that mixer...  Basically, I'm loving it...

Hmmm.  I wonder if I can make a jig to mix dough for it...


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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2004, 02:43:27 PM »
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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2004, 03:00:40 PM »
Deebee, a vertical mill  and a dough hook would be ment for each other.
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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2004, 10:36:18 PM »
Actually I do a pretty dead on impression of Carl the groundskeeper.

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2004, 09:48:06 PM »
Actually I do a pretty dead on impression of Carl the groundskeeper.

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2004, 10:26:19 AM »
Made my first batch of dough with my used Hobart mixer! ;D All I can say is for anyone looking to get a mixer to make dough, I highly recommend going to ebay and getting a used Hobart N-50 one. I made a batch in my 5 qt. bowl using about 2.5 lbs of flour with no slow down whatsover, I probably could of used all 5lbs of flour if my bowl was big enough. The only thing is if you have a wife she'll probably make you put it away every time your done because its so ugly. Wouldn't mind so much but it weighs like 50 pounds!

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2004, 11:21:57 AM »
Is the dough improved by using such a mixer?

Or is it just the advantage of being able to make a larger batch without the machine smoking or bogging down.

Hmmm...  A dough hook on a Bridgeport mill hmmmm I'm thinking thinking.

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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2004, 04:14:52 PM »
I think it just makes it easier because you'll get the dough kneaded faster. My batch was done in like 5 minutes with no problems. I used 2.5 lbs of flour. It took me longer on figuring out how to take it out when it was done. ;D

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Re: Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2005, 07:17:49 PM »
I first purchased a KA 6 qt and killed it in a week after trying to make bagel dough. I  called KA and told the KA rep what I was trying to do and was told that there was no way to mix such a stiff dough for over 10 min. I replied that it didn't say anything about that in the manual, but was assured by the rep and his supervisor  who called back later, that this kind of use (mixing high gluten doughs) would kill KA mixers. I returned the KA and saw an ad in The Baker's Catalog for the 1000 watt Viking. I called Viking and told them how I planned to use the mixer. I was told that there would not be a problem and there hasn't been one yet after many batches of pizza and bagel dough. The 1000 watt Viking was about $500. I did look on Ebay for a Hobart n50 but even the used ones were all over $1K. Congrats to the fellow who paid $250 for his. Also the old KAs were made by Hobart and are much better than the new ones made since Hobart sold off the KA label.

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Re: Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2005, 12:22:17 PM »
I recently purchased the Viking 7qt 1000 watt mixer.  It struggles with a double batch of 65% hydration pizza dough....total weight of 50 oz.  I could not mix a triple batch of 20oz pies in the Viking.  It bogged down repeatedly.  If I were to purchase again I would find a mixer that had more guts , a built-in timer and a safety feature as this thing will run in tilt mode and does not have a safety screen . 

I have adjusted my batch size to fit the performance level of the machine .  I think the machine would really struggle making bagel dough.

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Re: Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2005, 02:07:09 PM »
don't get a kitchen aid. Get a DLX 2000. search my posts or click on my website for more. I researched this a LOT


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Re:Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2005, 12:30:38 AM »
Peter Rinehartís American Pie might be just the answer for people that donít have a mixer that kneads.  He believes in hand kneading and gives easy hand kneading instructions for each pizza.  Not a Hobart but it is under $20.

Yeah! Hand mixing/kneading is (to me) so much more satisfying and controllable than a machine. I bought a Kitchen Aid several years ago thinking it would be a laborsaver....but I found it very easy to overknead the dough and more difficult to control water content. I gave up the machine about a year ago and haven't regretted it a minute.

My basic technique these days is to whip up too-wet dough with a good ol' wooden spoon, then transfer to a silicone mat and knead by hand, adding flour as necessary to prevent absurd gloppiness.  My hand doughs are always better than anything I made with a machine over the 4 years I owned it - probably due to poor machine technique  ::)

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Re: Which Kitchen Aid should I get?
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2005, 04:07:01 PM »
I looked at Kitchen Aid, then Viking, and wound up buying the Electrolux DLX 2000. I am glad I did! I did a 25 oz batch of 60% hydration this morning in under 10 minutes, and ate 1/2 this afternoon. Great machine. Thanks Varsano. Nice video clip on your web page.
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