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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #180 on: Today at 04:13:44 PM »
Just get a bag of KABF and be done with it.
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« Reply #181 on: Today at 05:13:07 PM »
Looking at the flour products at the Central Milling website, at http://centralmilling.com/collections/all, they all look to be organic, and would suggest that Tony's flour milled for him by Central Milling may also be an organic flour, as further supported by the CM discussion at http://centralmilling.com/pages/about-us. If that is so, high gluten organic flours at the retail level ain't exactly cheap. See, for example, the KA organic high gluten flour at http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/king-arthur-organic-high-gluten-flour-3-lb. That flour is already malted and contains no ascorbic acid, so those are areas that would have to be investigated to try to match Tony's specialty flour. The specs for the KA organic high gluten flour, which has a protein content of 14%, can be seen at http://web.archive.org/web/20061211051235/http://www.kingarthurflour.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/528fa553a218e1e5566108ef6e4c55d9/miscdocs/KAF%20Organic%20Nutritional%20Analysis.pdf.

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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #182 on: Today at 05:15:03 PM »
You wanna play, you gots to pay.  ;D

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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #183 on: Today at 05:27:03 PM »
Looking at the flour products at the Central Milling website, at http://centralmilling.com/collections/all, they all look to be organic, and would suggest that Tony's flour milled for him by Central Milling may also be an organic flour, as further supported by the CM discussion at http://centralmilling.com/pages/about-us. If that is so, high gluten organic flours at the retail level ain't exactly cheap. See, for example, the KA organic high gluten flour at http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/king-arthur-organic-high-gluten-flour-3-lb. That flour is already malted and contains no ascorbic acid, so those are areas that would have to be investigated to try to match Tony's specialty flour. The specs for the KA organic high gluten flour, which has a protein content of 14%, can be seen at http://web.archive.org/web/20061211051235/http://www.kingarthurflour.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/528fa553a218e1e5566108ef6e4c55d9/miscdocs/KAF%20Organic%20Nutritional%20Analysis.pdf.

Peter

And that's only for a 3lb bag, Peter. For 55 cents more you get two more lbs of Tony's proprietary blend.
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« Reply #184 on: Today at 07:14:52 PM »
You wanna play, you gots to pay.  ;D
Oh there will be many more products to come from him forthwith.  ;)
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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #185 on: Today at 07:27:49 PM »
You wanna play, you gots to pay.  ;D

No. You really don't.
Pizza is not bread.

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« Reply #186 on: Today at 08:00:06 PM »
No. You really don't.

Really? So who's paying when folks blow a grip on Fiore di Bufala, or spend 10k on a WFO ?

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« Reply #187 on: Today at 08:06:47 PM »
Really? So who's paying when folks blow a grip on Fiore di Bufala, or spend 10k on a WFO ?
That's not flour, man.  ;D
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« Reply #188 on: Today at 08:12:07 PM »
That's not flour, man.  ;D

So cheese and ovens are ok, but if some people would prefer a good organic flour without bromate, GMO, and other crap in it, its wasting money?
Too funny!




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« Reply #189 on: Today at 08:15:23 PM »
So cheese and ovens are ok, but if some people would prefer a good organic flour without bromate, GMO, and other crap in it, its wasting money?
Too funny!
I did not say either one of the 2 points you just pulled out of nowhere.
Too funny!!   :-D
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« Reply #190 on: Today at 08:20:40 PM »
I did not say either one of the 2 points you just pulled out of nowhere.
Too funny!!   :-D


Great point. Taken by itself, "That's not flour, man" isn't saying much of anything.

So you're right CB, ovens and cheese ARE NOT flour, man... :-D
Priceless!



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« Reply #191 on: Today at 09:00:34 PM »

Great point. Taken by itself, "That's not flour, man" isn't saying much of anything.

So you're right CB, ovens and cheese ARE NOT flour, man... :-D
Priceless!
Now slow down there lil buckeroo.....your pay to play statement was made jus after Peter links about flour......the discussion was about high cost of FLOUR Tony, and others.

Craig, I imagine was staying on topic saying that flour/dough does not have to be expensive to be good.

And then you threw %$# in the game about 10k ovens.   ;)

Yes, that stuff can be expensive.
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« Reply #192 on: Today at 09:13:54 PM »
Now slow down there lil buckeroo.....your pay to play statement was made jus after Peter links about flour......the discussion was about high cost of FLOUR Tony, and others.

Craig, I imagine was staying on topic saying that flour/dough does not have to be expensive to be good.

And then you threw %$# in the game about 10k ovens.   ;)

So what if flour doesn't have to be expensive to just be good?
Who said it did, besides you imagining it?
Instead, it looks to me like it has to be expensive to be organic, 00 etc...which describes the FLOUR that was being discussed.

If Craig has access to cheap, organic, malted, 00 flour then good for him, and good for you for having his back.
Anyway, what I said was just a throw away line, which usually applies to quality products.

But oh well, it looks like I got taken down, easy peazy style, so I'll bow out now...


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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #193 on: Today at 09:20:21 PM »
So what if flour doesn't have to be expensive to just be good?
Who said it did, besides you imagining it?
Instead, it looks to me like it has to be expensive to be organic, 00 etc...which describes the FLOUR that was being discussed.

If Craig has access to cheap, organic, malted, 00 flour then good for him, and good for you for having his back.
Anyway, what I said was just a throw away line, which usually applies to quality products.

But oh well, it looks like I got taken down, easy peazy style, so I'll bow out now...
No, no, no....you're reading too much into this Wood. Not trying to take you down dude....you one of my favorite pizza pals here man.  Tiss all good....screw dat damn FLOUR!!  8)
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Re: The Pizza Bible
« Reply #194 on: Today at 09:26:00 PM »
Here is another unbleached organic high gluten flour (13-13.5% percent protein), from Giusto's, but it does not have vitamin/iron enrichment, malting or ascorbic acid:

http://giustos.com/home_baker/flours/bread-flours/high-performer-high-protein-unbleached-white-flour.html

Again, not cheap but it is capable of being malted by the use of diastatic malt, and ascorbic acid can also be added.

Peter


 

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