Shango, fair enough. I think all of this boils down to people trying to have that perfect pizza night everytime, which for hobbyists is about once a week or maybe less. Those nights are truly magical when everything goes just according to plan and nothing could come out better. I think threads like these are attemps to pin down the magic, and store it in a jar on this forum, when really there are so many factors involved maybe it can't be. And like Bill always says, the prettiest aren't always the best tasting.