Looking to get a KYS Pro Baker Easy.. Available in USA?

[JustOneMoreSlice]

Hey there all --- HNY!!!! ..

Been looking around at various sprial mixers and the one i landed on is the KYS Pro Baker Easy.. Tilt head.. Var speed.. quiet.. easy head locks... But looking around and havnt been able to find any dealers in the USA.. Any of you guys/gals know of a dealer in the usa that deals with them?

Once i decided on a spiral mixer--- i look at my old KA like a girl friend i broke up with long ago-- just over it lol..

[PizzaIsBread]

i inquired abt kys and was told they only sell 220v versions.

[JustOneMoreSlice]

Hi PizzaIsBread

Thanks for the reply.. Just got back into town and checked in here and saw your post.... That is a bummer they are only 220... If you watch the video the kys pro baker easy-- is quuuiiieeettttt..... I like the way the levers lock the top.. ect..  Oh well--- such is life..

[billg]

Hi PizzaIsBread

Thanks for the reply.. Just got back into town and checked in here and saw your post.... That is a bummer they are only 220... If you watch the video the kys pro baker easy-- is quuuiiieeettttt..... I like the way the levers lock the top.. ect..  Oh well--- such is life..

Buy a step up transformer from International Configurations Inc..  I use one (1500watts) on my 230V Mf Italy Mini Mix and it's just plain awesome.  I've ran mine for an hour just to test it out with no hiccups and the additional power the 230 provides is great.  Plug the step up transformer into any 110 outlet and plug the mixer into the transformer.  Easy peasy.  This is not one of those amazon junk boxes.  It's an industrial piece of kit about 4x5x7 inches.  Here are the specs taken from their website:

INTERNATIONAL STEP-UP AUTO TRANSFORMERS - CONTINUOUS DUTY 110/115 Volt Input - 220/240 Volt Output 50/60 Hertz
Convert European Appliances And Equipment For Use On American Voltages
These step-up transformers are supplied with European "SCHUKO" CEE 7 receptacles and NEMA 5-15P (15 ampere 125 volt) plugs. Adapters can be used to convert the "SCHUKO" receptacle to various foreign receptacle configurations. Auto transformers change voltage levels only and not frequency (Hertz). NOT recommended for use with refrigerators.
Transformers are equipped with 6 foot power cord and U.S.A. NEMA 5-15 plug.
NOTE: When using a transformer with more than one appliance at a time, the total wattage of all appliances used together should not exceed the maximum rated watts of the transformer.
ADAPTER OPTIONS Use these adapters to convert the "SCHUKO" receptacle to a different receptacle configuration.
USE EUROPEAN 230 VOLT APPLIANCES IN U.S.A.
Transformers equipped with 6 foot power cord and "SCHUKO" CEE 7-7 plug.

[CJay]

Currently available in 110v with brushless DC motor.
Lifetime warranty if you purchase the 7+
Also free shipping for limited time.

https://kysprobaker.com/collections/all

[BNB187]

There's what appears to be a fairly similar option available from Phoenix Food Equipment in Canada.  There isn't a ton of info out there on it but it's the same as the CookingPro HX-10T which has more info out there.

https://phoenixfoodequipment.com/collections/spiral-mixers/products/alpha-avs-10t-ten-speed-commercial-tilting-spiral-mixer-10qt-capacity-120v

[BNB187]

There's what appears to be a fairly similar option available from Phoenix Food Equipment in Canada.  There isn't a ton of info out there on it but it's the same as the CookingPro HX-10T which has more info out there.

https://phoenixfoodequipment.com/collections/spiral-mixers/products/alpha-avs-10t-ten-speed-commercial-tilting-spiral-mixer-10qt-capacity-120v

I've been looking at these as well.  And came to the same conclusion that it is a Cookonpro machine, confirmed by Cookingpro sales manager. 

I had been very much on the fence about this.  There's been some negative posts regarding defective units.  Of the VERY few videos and pics I've seen it seems as if the dough is climbing up the hook.  Wonder if perhaps the gap between the bar and the hook is too large?  For my use, typically at most 1KG flour am concerned that the 10L bowl maybe just too big and make the mixer less efficient.  And let's not forget the back breaking weight of these.

So where does that leave me?  KYS Bakerpro 7+?  I suppose, but have emailed a couple questions to them and have gotten no response.  Fixed bowl really seems like something I'm not going to be happy with as well. 

So now back around to a Famag IM5S.  I've placed a preorder for one but am again majorly on the fence.  This is 2x the price of the KYS.  Is it really worth it?  For some odd reason the Marashino color is close to $200 less than all the other colors on PHG?  Will I hate this color $200?  Of course this order can be cancelled as it's a preorder so really still undecided.  😳😞😔

And is there something to be said in terms of motor power?  Famag IM5s is only 350w where the KYS is 750w. 

My brain hurts for all the back and forth..

I tell my wife this midlife crisis is cheaper than a sports car, boat or mistress but starting to think I could be wrong after a new Napoleon BBQ, Pit Boss smoker and Pizza Party Emozione on the last year. 😜

[barryvabeach]

I tend to obsess when looking to purchase items.  The one thing I can add is that wattage is generally not all that useful in comparing machines because how efficiently the power is transmitted to the dough can vary greatly.  BTW ,  I have the Famag IM-5S ,  I don't think it is underpowered in any way.

[scott r]

The sunmix seems to struggle a bit with doughs that the famag rips through with ease.  I have not found a dough yet that makes me worry about the famag, and I make bagels and pizza doughs below 50% hydration.

[BNB187]

I tend to obsess when looking to purchase items.  The one thing I can add is that wattage is generally not all that useful in comparing machines because how efficiently the power is transmitted to the dough can vary greatly.  BTW ,  I have the Famag IM-5S ,  I don't think it is underpowered in any way.

Have been lurking around the Famag group on FB and have seen a couple reports of machine bogging down.  As well as the review here:

https://wheatbeat.com/famag-spiral-mixer-update/

So just a bit concerned about that, really not terribly concerned as I'm not likely to be maxing out capacity anyways.  And in terms of motor power the 8 and 10 only have a marginally larger motor so the 350w may be perfect for the 5.

Now the other wrench is the likely release of a brushless motor version at some point in the not too distant future.

[pizzaioli2022]

Like the original poster, I also had my heart set on the KYS Pro Bakery Easy 5 for all the same reasons. I followed up on LG's excellent advice regarding the transformer, specifically asking KYS if it would work.  They warned that it would not, however, because of the frequency mismatch (the transformer converts voltage, not frequency). The Easy 5 has a CPU controller that will not spin the motor unless the current is 50 Hz.  Although devices that convert frequency and voltage are to available, they cost as much as that Easy 5.

Today, I bought the US version of the Pro Baker 7+.  Previously this was $885 with expedited shipping, but now they offer sea shipping for $85 less, which I opted for.

KYS also confirmed that the unit is entirely their own design and engineering (in Norway) and they have had an employee in China for 10+ years to oversee manufacturing.  That gave me enough comfort to pull the trigger.

$800 for a spiral with a 750W brushless DC motor, and 28 - 400 rpm mixer speed with reverse is unbeatable. 

I will be back with an update in 5 weeks when my spiral arrives.

[LeeMajors]

Like the original poster, I also had my heart set on the KYS Pro Bakery Easy 5 for all the same reasons. I followed up on LG's excellent advice regarding the transformer, specifically asking KYS if it would work.  They warned that it would not, however, because of the frequency mismatch (the transformer converts voltage, not frequency). The Easy 5 has a CPU controller that will not spin the motor unless the current is 50 Hz.  Although devices that convert frequency and voltage are to available, they cost as much as that Easy 5.

Today, I bought the US version of the Pro Baker 7+.  Previously this was $885 with expedited shipping, but now they offer sea shipping for $85 less, which I opted for.

KYS also confirmed that the unit is entirely their own design and engineering (in Norway) and they have had an employee in China for 10+ years to oversee manufacturing.  That gave me enough comfort to pull the trigger.

$800 for a spiral with a 750W brushless DC motor, and 28 - 400 rpm mixer speed with reverse is unbeatable. 

I will be back with an update in 5 weeks when my spiral arrives.

Looking forward to hearing about this mixer......

[Bruce Sato]

Any update about the kys pro baker 7+ usa version ? Waiting for news to push the order button
I hesitate between this one and the Spiralmac Royal Queen 5

[Pizzaiolo_Italiano]

Buy a step up transformer from International Configurations Inc..  I use one (1500watts) on my 230V Mf Italy Mini Mix and it's just plain awesome.  I've ran mine for an hour just to test it out with no hiccups and the additional power the 230 provides is great.  Plug the step up transformer into any 110 outlet and plug the mixer into the transformer.  Easy peasy.  This is not one of those amazon junk boxes.  It's an industrial piece of kit about 4x5x7 inches.  Here are the specs taken from their website:

INTERNATIONAL STEP-UP AUTO TRANSFORMERS - CONTINUOUS DUTY 110/115 Volt Input - 220/240 Volt Output 50/60 Hertz
Convert European Appliances And Equipment For Use On American Voltages
These step-up transformers are supplied with European "SCHUKO" CEE 7 receptacles and NEMA 5-15P (15 ampere 125 volt) plugs. Adapters can be used to convert the "SCHUKO" receptacle to various foreign receptacle configurations. Auto transformers change voltage levels only and not frequency (Hertz). NOT recommended for use with refrigerators.
Transformers are equipped with 6 foot power cord and U.S.A. NEMA 5-15 plug.
NOTE: When using a transformer with more than one appliance at a time, the total wattage of all appliances used together should not exceed the maximum rated watts of the transformer.
ADAPTER OPTIONS Use these adapters to convert the "SCHUKO" receptacle to a different receptacle configuration.
USE EUROPEAN 230 VOLT APPLIANCES IN U.S.A.
Transformers equipped with 6 foot power cord and "SCHUKO" CEE 7-7 plug.

Hi @billg,

I am interested in purchasing the same STEP-UP TRANSFORMER and I believe I found the one you are talking about here (Part Number 32150-SUS)

• Could you please confirm that this is the unit you are using with your mixer?

I will need something similar for a KYS Pro Baker Easy 5. This machine has about 370W Power consumption (specs at the bottom of the page).

• Is there a reason why you selected the 1500W one? Just wondering what is the right one I should buy

Thank you, your response is greatly appreciated

[pizzaioli2022]

Hi @billg,

I am interested in purchasing the same STEP-UP TRANSFORMER and I believe I found the one you are talking about here (Part Number 32150-SUS)

• Could you please confirm that this is the unit you are using with your mixer?

I will need something similar for a KYS Pro Baker Easy 5. This machine has about 370W Power consumption (specs at the bottom of the page).

• Is there a reason why you selected the 1500W one? Just wondering what is the right one I should buy

Thank you, your response is greatly appreciated

I had exactly the same plan of using this transformer with the Easy 5.  But I had extensive discussions with KYS and they were adamant that this transformer would not work because of the frequency mismatch (US is 60 Hz). They advised getting a transformer with frequency converter, which costs nearly as much as the mixer

I gave up and bought the 7+ instead which comes out of the box in US voltage.

[duke8253]

I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I think I found the actual mixer KYS pro baker is based on (or maybe just a different brand in China). Here is the link to the item: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=601270918246

And here's the picture of their 5L tilt head mixer, I'd say it's pretty much identical to the KYS Pro Baker Easy 5.



And the good news here is, they also have a 10L model that has a tilt head, and NOT digital, so from the previous comments I think that will solve the 60Hz to 50Hz conversion issue.

[raminolta]

This is not the same as the Kys mixer. It is sold by a Chinese supplier on a Chinese website and the manufacturer may not be the same facotry. If somebody plans to buy directly from China, I would certainly recommend sticking to well known online vendors like AliBaba and AliExpress. If something is wrong with the mixer, at least the buyer can file a claim and get a refund. Though the return process can be a headache for a large heavy item like a spiral mixer. The buyer needs to make sure the seller covers the return shipping fee before making the purchase.
 The problem is after sale support can be tricky when buying from an unknown vendor located in another continent. In many cases they refuse to support the sale or, their support may be abysmal. In the best case scenario, they may supply the parts and the buyer will have to do the warranty work himself.

Recently I bought a manual lever espresso machine from a manufacturer on Alibaba. It turned out having a problem when I received it. The vendor instructed me how to do the repair (they sent me videos on how to open up the machine). I still needed to buy some materials for the repair. They weren't expensive (about $35 on Amazon). I am still happy with the purchase as I like the machine a lot.

There is another risk too: a spiral mixer is super heavy and big. The shipping carriers may not be careful with the box and may cause damage to the product during the shipping.

[slotti]

This is not the same as the Kys mixer. It is sold by a Chinese supplier on a Chinese website and the manufacturer may not be the same facotry. If somebody plans to buy directly from China, I would certainly recommend sticking to well known online vendors like AliBaba and AliExpress. If something is wrong with the mixer, at least the buyer can file a claim and get a refund. Though the return process can be a headache for a large heavy item like a spiral mixer. The buyer needs to make sure the seller covers the return shipping fee before making the purchase.
 The problem is after sale support can be tricky when buying from an unknown vendor located in another continent. In many cases they refuse to support the sale or, their support may be abysmal. In the best case scenario, they may supply the parts and the buyer will have to do the warranty work himself.

Recently I bought a manual lever espresso machine from a manufacturer on Alibaba. It turned out having a problem when I received it. The vendor instructed me how to do the repair (they sent me videos on how to open up the machine). I still needed to buy some materials for the repair. They weren't expensive (about $35 on Amazon). I am still happy with the purchase as I like the machine a lot.

There is another risk too: a spiral mixer is super heavy and big. The shipping carriers may not be careful with the box and may cause damage to the product during the shipping.

I have recently bought a spiral mixer similar to the KYS Pro Baker Easy 5 directly from China. It will be delivered in early November as I have chosen the cheaper seafreight that takes up to 2 months.

On AliExpress and Made-in-China you can find a couple of companies that offer spiral mixers which are similar to the KYS Pro Baker mixers. For example Guangzhou Zhibao and Guangzhou Sawish.

KYS is just a reseller of china imports and most likely sources its mixers from one of the above mentioned companies. It seems to me that there are only minor differences, if any. For example there are two locking levers for the tiltable head on the 10 litre model from KYS, whereas the pictures on AliExpress etc. only show one lever. And of course there is the embossed KYS logo and the side covers with the Pro Baker cut-outs. Such customizations are offered from the chinese manufacturers for resellers like KYS that want to disguise the origin. They offer no added value and just increase the price unnecessarily.

If you ask me, KYS just took some high-quality photos and wrote some exuberant advertisement prose. There's nothing wrong with that, just good marketing. However I find it untrustworthy that KYS more or less indicates that the mixers were developed in Norway.

What you wrote about the return process being a headache and the risk of a damage during shipping is absolutely true for a direct sourcing from China. You should be aware of repairing the spiral mixer on your own in case of a malfunction. Shipping the whole spiral mixer back to China is absolutely uneconomic. That's why I would only recommend this to experienced DIYers. I made good experience with after sales from chinese suppliers in the past, and hope that will be confirmed for the spiral mixer if needed.

However the return process with KYS will most likely give you the same headache! Just check their return policy: https://kysprobaker.com/policies/refund-policy .The last passage in the terms of service is also very meaningful: https://kysprobaker.com/policies/terms-of-service

I spent quite a lot of time with online research before ordering the spiral mixer directly from China, as it is still quite an expensive kitchen appliance, given the fact that it can only mix dough. At first I also considered buying a mixer from KYS, but the more you search the more negative critics you will find. Not on the product itself, but on KYS as a company. That lead me to the direct purchase from China, which also saved me a lot of money.

[capmax]

I have recently bought a spiral mixer similar to the KYS Pro Baker Easy 5 directly from China. It will be delivered in early November as I have chosen the cheaper seafreight that takes up to 2 months.
On AliExpress and Made-in-China you can find a couple of companies that offer spiral mixers which are similar to the KYS Pro Baker mixers. For example Guangzhou Zhibao and Guangzhou Sawish.
KYS is just a reseller of china imports and most likely sources its mixers from one of the above mentioned companies. It seems to me that there are only minor differences, if any. For example there are two locking levers for the tiltable head on the 10 litre model from KYS, whereas the pictures on AliExpress etc. only show one lever. And of course there is the embossed KYS logo and the side covers with the Pro Baker cut-outs. Such customizations are offered from the chinese manufacturers for resellers like KYS that want to disguise the origin. They offer no added value and just increase the price unnecessarily.
If you ask me, KYS just took some high-quality photos and wrote some exuberant advertisement prose. There's nothing wrong with that, just good marketing. However I find it untrustworthy that KYS more or less indicates that the mixers were developed in Norway.
What you wrote about the return process being a headache and the risk of a damage during shipping is absolutely true for a direct sourcing from China. You should be aware of repairing the spiral mixer on your own in case of a malfunction. Shipping the whole spiral mixer back to China is absolutely uneconomic. That's why I would only recommend this to experienced DIYers. I made good experience with after sales from chinese suppliers in the past, and hope that will be confirmed for the spiral mixer if needed.
However the return process with KYS will most likely give you the same headache! Just check their return policy: https://kysprobaker.com/policies/refund-policy .The last passage in the terms of service is also very meaningful: https://kysprobaker.com/policies/terms-of-service
I spent quite a lot of time with online research before ordering the spiral mixer directly from China, as it is still quite an expensive kitchen appliance, given the fact that it can only mix dough. At first I also considered buying a mixer from KYS, but the more you search the more negative critics you will find. Not on the product itself, but on KYS as a company. That lead me to the direct purchase from China, which also saved me a lot of money.

Thanks for the tip Slottii ... I've just ordered one too HM-5TD from Sawish (500$ + 196$ Sea Transport), it's the same as the KYS Baker Easy 5 ... now we just have to wait 2 months, and see how much the customs taxes will cost.

[slotti]

Thanks for the tip Slottii ... I've just ordered one too HM-5TD from Sawish (500$ + 196$ Sea Transport), it's the same as the KYS Baker Easy 5 ... now we just have to wait 2 months, and see how much the customs taxes will cost.

That's exactly where I ordered mine too. Very friendly comnunication with Mrs. Candy. She even sent videos of my mixer unasked. Can't await the delivery.