Lou’s Tomatoes

Started by PizzaGarage, March 02, 2024, 04:05:01 PM

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PizzaGarage

Here you go.....

50/50 by weight, enjoy...


vcb

#1
Closest thing you'll find to Lou's tomatoes at Jewel is these Signature Select "Special Cut" tomatoes:

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pythonic

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Essen1

I tried the San Benito on the left in the pic...absolutely awful. They tasted metallic and cheap.

They're sold at Smart & Final in CA in #10 cans.
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Essen1

Quote from: vcb on March 02, 2024, 11:28:03 PM
Closest thing you'll find to Lou's tomatoes at Jewel is these Signature Select "Special Cut" tomatoes:

p.s. - If you just found this thread and are looking for more deep dish tomato threads, check here:
https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=20013.msg196352#msg196352

Signature Select is a Safeway house brand. Stay away from stuff like that.
Mike

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pythonic

Quote from: Essen1 on March 26, 2024, 12:45:42 PM
Signature Select is a Safeway house brand. Stay away from stuff like that.

I still think the Alta Cucina, Saporitos and these San marzan are the best.
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Essen1

Quote from: pythonic on March 26, 2024, 12:58:58 PM
I still think the Alta Cucina, Saporitos and these San marzan are the best.

The ones you posted are garbage. They've been debunked as fake San Marzanos a few years ago.
Mike

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vcb

Quote from: Essen1 on March 26, 2024, 12:45:42 PM
Signature Select is a Safeway house brand. Stay away from stuff like that.

Care to tell us why?

Everyone is free to have their own opinions on grocery store brands, but I have had good results every time I've used these.
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Blang1

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Quote from: vcb on March 27, 2024, 11:23:32 AM
Care to tell us why?

Everyone is free to have their own opinions on grocery store brands, but I have had good results every time I've used these.
Use the best tomatoes you can find and/or afford.

I haven't checked the Signature Select cans, but the Walmart/Target/Smart and Final "Generic" crushed tomatoes are some of the highest quality ones I can buy.

PizzaGarage

Quote from: pythonic on March 26, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
Got inside sources?

What I can say is mix these 2 as suggested, don't drain. Ladel on and spread by hand and lightly press down into any meats. It's a public forum so just need to leave it at that. 

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Essen1

Quote from: vcb on March 27, 2024, 11:23:32 AM
Care to tell us why?

Everyone is free to have their own opinions on grocery store brands, but I have had good results every time I've used these.
Use the best tomatoes you can find and/or afford.

I have tried almost every retail "san marzano" or san marzano-style tomatoes, including the Safeway Select stuff, over the years. The Safeway Select always have had a too acidic, low-quality taste to them. You can find much better tomatoes out there, especially given the fact that most "San Marzano" products don't even contain the real thing.

So shop around.

But, of course, you're definitely free to use whatever product works for you.
Mike

"All styles of pizza are valid. I make the best I'm capable of; you should make the best you're capable of. I don't want to make somebody else's pizza." ~ Chris Bianco

Essen1

Quote from: Blang1 on March 28, 2024, 01:13:42 AM
I haven't checked the Signature Select cans, but the Walmart/Target/Smart and Final "Generic" crushed tomatoes are some of the highest quality ones I can buy.

The Smart & Final "generic" aka "First Street" are definitely a step up from the Safeway Select, but fall a bit short if compared to the Heinz Bell 'Orto, 7/11 and especially Mutti. But for the price, it's a solid choice.
Mike

"All styles of pizza are valid. I make the best I'm capable of; you should make the best you're capable of. I don't want to make somebody else's pizza." ~ Chris Bianco

vcb

Quote from: Essen1 on April 09, 2024, 12:51:46 PM
I have tried almost every retail "san marzano" or san marzano-style tomatoes, including the Safeway Select stuff, over the years. The Safeway Select always have had a too acidic, low-quality taste to them. You can find much better tomatoes out there, especially given the fact that most "San Marzano" products don't even contain the real thing.

So shop around.

But, of course, you're definitely free to use whatever product works for you.

Okay. Now I understand.
It seems you're under the impression that deep dish pizza needs tomatoes originating in San Marzano.
San Marzano STYLE tomatoes are about the kind of tomato, and not specifically about the region in which they are grown.

California grown tomatoes are brighter and slightly more acidic, and in my humble opinion, more appropriate for this style of pizza.
The tomatoes I've tried that originated in San Marzano were pretty dull and didn't lend much to the deep dish pizzas I've tried to make with them.
I think those would be better used in some other dish.

As this thread is about "Lou's Tomatoes", meaning Lou Malnati's, your best bet to coming close to theirs would be to get tomatoes grown in California, like Malnati's does.
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pythonic

Quote from: Essen1 on April 09, 2024, 12:57:50 PM
The Smart & Final "generic" aka "First Street" are definitely a step up from the Safeway Select, but fall a bit short if compared to the Heinz Bell 'Orto, 7/11 and especially Mutti. But for the price, it's a solid choice.

I've tried the Mutti.  Those are bland also in my opinion.  The best mix of tomatoes to use is 6 in 1 and Alta Cucina.  I used Saporitos last week and they just aren't quite sweet enough.
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Blang1

Quote from: Essen1 on April 09, 2024, 12:57:50 PM
The Smart & Final "generic" aka "First Street" are definitely a step up from the Safeway Select, but fall a bit short if compared to the Heinz Bell 'Orto, 7/11 and especially Mutti. But for the price, it's a solid choice.

I missed the part where the Signature Select tomatoes were "San Marzano Style". The can just says "Tomatoes" rather than "San Marzano Tomatoes" like any "authentic" san marzano tomatoes.

I wonder what it is about the Select tomatoes that makes them "San Marzano Style".

FWIW, the Smart and Final (at least here in Norcal) crushed tomatoes are identical to the Great Value and Target Good and Gather brands. They're hard to beat for the price, but they're also not trying to claim "San Marzano" in any way.

I did just crack open a can of Cento All Purpose today to make some sauce.

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Blang1

Quote from: vcb on April 09, 2024, 03:56:16 PM
As this thread is about "Lou's Tomatoes", meaning Lou Malnati's, your best bet to coming close to theirs would be to get tomatoes grown in California, like Malnati's does.

I think the confusion arose when vcb posted the Select can, not because it's "San Marzano" per se, but because they're "special cut" which is the type that often has a similar texture to Malnati's, and is similar to what they've sold in the past. And Essen was riffing off of that.

I agree that a California/Stanislaus tomato is going to be more authentic, which is why I've been very happy with the fresh packed generic stuff near me. But I also live like 15 miles from the two main packing plants for Stanislaus tomatoes :)

pythonic

Recently heard Mark Malnatis state that they use Pear Tomatoes.  I'll be ordering these soon to try them out.
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