Refried Beans for Sauce base Mexican style pizza

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PapaJawnz

I've been curious how some wet refried beans (pinto or black) would work as a sauce base for a mexican style pizza?  Maybe runny refried beans with some chorizo?  ???   Hoping someone here may have tried that before?  I love mexican food and the blank slate of a nice pizza dough sounds like a winner for some south of the border flavors.
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gcpizza

Quote from: PapaJawnz on July 03, 2024, 06:37:30 PMI've been curious how some wet refried beans (pinto or black) would work as a sauce base for a mexican style pizza?  Maybe runny refried beans with some chorizo?  ???  Hoping someone here may have tried that before?  I love mexican food and the blank slate of a nice pizza dough sounds like a winner for some south of the border flavors.
Asada Pizza's menu may give you some ideas.

https://www.asadapizza.net/menus

TXCraig1

Apparently the goal was to bastardize both tacos and pizza in one fell swoop.
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jeffz

I mix refried beans and salsa 1:1 ratio for my mexican base. It gives you a lot of options with all the salsas out there.

Grease Wheel

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foreplease

Quote from: Grease Wheel on July 05, 2024, 09:49:01 PMWould a Kraft Single make this a pizza?

Quote from: TXCraig1 on July 05, 2024, 06:55:29 PMApparently the goal was to bastardize both tacos and pizza in one fell swoop.

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pjbear05

To start my Mexican Pizza is "different".  Based on a recipe from New Mexico magazine, it has a pie based rather than pizza based dough of flour, corn meal, baking powder, salt, shortening, and milk.
Make dough and chill, cook and season ground beef.  Dough on standard round pan, spread a can of refrieds on dough, followed by ground beef.  Taco sauce, chilies, cheese, and into oven, Voila!
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foreplease

I do not want to be too negative here. As with so many things pizza and food, this is a matter of taste. With refried beans as a base, it's really a topping rather than a sauce IMO. For my tastes, I cannot imagine adding anything to a crust topped with refried beans that would interest me in whatever the final product becomes. YMMV.
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gcpizza

Quote from: foreplease on July 09, 2024, 07:23:10 AMI do not want to be too negative here. As with so many things pizza and food, this is a matter of taste. With refried beans as a base, it's really a topping rather than a sauce IMO. For my tastes, I cannot imagine adding anything to a crust topped with refried beans that would interest me in whatever the final product becomes. YMMV.
People have been redefining pizza since its inception. Sure, some conceptualizations of "pizza" push the boundaries of what most would think of as pizza, but eating various food items on top of flatbread has been with us for a long time. What you're thinking of as "sauce" is often thought of as a "base" to others - i.e. an "olive oil" base or a "ricotta" base for a "white" pizza (which many with narrow definitions of pizza will argue isn't pizza). Some are now even calling tomato based sauces a "red sauce" base as alternate bases are becoming popularized. Pizza is a shared experience as well as, as you indicated, an individual experience. A "refried bean" base isn't so far fetched when one considers what pizza historically has been before and after the whole "Queen Margherita" story/myth/legend which is more likely a modern fallacy than a historical fact. Pizza didn't start with that story nor did it end with it.

I appreciate how you respectfully shared your thoughts here. Some would instead insist on forcing their idea of pizza on everyone else like so many have done here in discussions about various "styles". I'd like to try a refried bean base on a pizza with appropriate accompanying toppings. It would be, after all, very similar to many traditional Mexican dishes served on a tortilla, another type of flatbread.

foreplease

Thank you for your kind words, GC. I never mean to offend, which you clearly got. If there is a shortcoming here it is mine and not being as open minded as I could have been. I tried to put it out there as "for me, or in my case." 

 I am definitely "for" experimenting and enjoying pizza with people, as a rule. Thank you again for your diplomatic reply.
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PapaJawnz

I know a lot of people who really dislike refried beans.  I used to not like them very much but found with enough lard and salt they start tasting pretty yummy!  I've been thinking instead of a watered down beans for the base, a mix of beans and red chile sauce.  My idea so far is that bean base with the red chile sauce, 100% monterey jack cheese, chorizo, bacon, green chiles and finished with raw white onion and cilantro.  I'm thinking thats gonna hit the spot.  I just need to figure out the dough to handle that.  Maybe american style just to be cheeky.
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Yeasty Boy

Seems like this could be a good Monthly Challenge?
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jsaras

I think that beans are a bad idea. When I used to make Mexican-topped pizzas I just used (pepper)jack cheese, chorizo (or soyrizo), red onions and arugula (post-bake) dressing with lemon juice, oil and salt.

I saw a place in New Mexico that used chorizo, pepperoni, garlic, green onions, Cholula, ricotta, banana and serrano pepper.
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Quote from: TXCraig1 on July 05, 2024, 06:55:29 PMApparently the goal was to bastardize both tacos and pizza in one fell swoop.

There's been an eatery operating near me for more than a decade called "MexItalia" but i still haven't tried it . . . 
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QwertyJuan

We make a sorta "taco" pizza here at work... we use a sauce on the base that is a mayo and salsa(as well as spices and honey) mixture. Might sound strange, but it's quite delicious. We use a taco meat mixture and use onions, green peppers and tomatoes. 

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Thechad

I use my left over taco meat wich has refried beans in it.  I use a 2 to 1 ratio for my tacos so it don't squeeze out as bad when you bite into it.  Might have to go more beans if the plan is pizza,  that way it spreads better.  Use your favorite taco seasoning  cook beef per. Instructions add seasoning  when done ad beans maybe a little water to loosen them up a bit. mix well taste for seasoning you may want to add another packet depending on your tastes.  I usually use old el Paso  or chi chi's  seasoning 

PapaJawnz

That's a great idea my dude!  I was thinking the other day to just blend up charro beans, which are a bit soupy, to achieve a sauce consistency.  They have beans, bacon, onion, chiles, tomatoes garlic, cilantro and broth.  TONS of flavor.  Then a montery jack, cheddar blend with chorizo, ground beef and bacon.  Serve with a cup of salsa and limes
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