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The great old places are doomed if they don't own the building.

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The great old places are doomed if they don't own the building.

yes.  landlords have been pricing out landmark bars and restaurants that have been there for decades, so that some hipster can open up a bathroom tiled, faux vintage, home brewed sudsy eatery that charges $18 for a plate of finger tacos, $22 grass fed beef sliders on a pretzel bun, and $10 cheddar curds that will close down anyway in a few years.
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original sal's pizzeria, ridgewood, queens, NYC
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2016, 06:06:09 PM »
Nice! Here's another one I like.

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2016, 08:42:58 PM »
Are there any decent pizza places near Bayside?  I have a relative that lives there that I usually visit when I'm in NY. 
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2016, 08:53:53 PM »
Are there any decent pizza places near Bayside?  I have a relative that lives there that I usually visit when I'm in NY.

Luigi on 35th Ave.  Really good slices and pies.  Their parm heros are great, esp the eggplant parm.




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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2016, 09:01:47 PM »
also graziella in bayside.  they make a great square grandma pie.

 

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2016, 10:51:36 PM »
Thanks Harry.  Will try!
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2016, 02:42:24 PM »
Pizza Garden
Flushing, Queens, NYC.

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2016, 03:03:23 PM »
Pizza Garden
Flushing, Queens, NYC.

Why did you post a picture of a pizza from New York Pizza Suprema in a post about Pizza Garden?

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2016, 04:00:45 PM »
Pizza Garden
Flushing, Queens, NYC.

I'm still not totally sure how they get that wet, orange looking cheese melt.  I suspect its about getting the right sauce thinness and amount of cheese. 
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2016, 04:08:28 PM »
I'm still not totally sure how they get that wet, orange looking cheese melt.  I suspect its about getting the right sauce thinness and amount of cheese.

the milkfat separates from the mozzarella and is a yellow hue.  when it interacts with the red sauce, the oil/fat becomes orange.

different brands of mozzarella perform differently.  some won't liquify much and just goes straight into browning.  using a part skim vs whole milk is a variable too.
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2016, 04:13:05 PM »
the milkfat separates from the mozzarella and is a yellow hue.  when it interacts with the red sauce, the oil/fat becomes orange.

different brands of mozzarella perform differently.  some won't liquify much and just goes straight into browning.  using a part skim vs whole milk is a variable too.

I know my Saputo gold does it (can't find Grande easily in LA). It just doesn't do it every time.   As I said though, I also believe it has something to do with sauce thinness and amounts of sauce and cheese given you start with the right cheese. 
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2016, 06:38:29 PM »
I know my Saputo gold does it (can't find Grande easily in LA). It just doesn't do it every time.   As I said though, I also believe it has something to do with sauce thinness and amounts of sauce and cheese given you start with the right cheese.

i've had no problem with retail brands like galbani, polly-o.  it may be sauce/cheese ratio or maybe it's your home oven and need make adjustments.  your pie may be too far from the preheated ceiling wall.  you may have also preheated one bake hotter than another.  also,  home ovens vary alot. 

i'm guessing most recently manufactured home ovens probably can't reach temp to break down mozzarella and liquify the milkfat.  i have an old 1986 thermador electric oven that gets very hot as the dial switch has high broil for the bake element (bottom) and it won't shut off if set there,  it might be broken...  but i keep my temp at 550 deg F on the dial.  i know many new ovens won't go beyond 500, there is no setting on the dial beyond that temp.   when i bake at the 3 minute mark, the sauce and cheese should be bubbling, the cheese should be liquifying and making orange grease.  the last 3 minutes, the cheese should begin dehydrating and browning. 
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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2016, 11:15:53 PM »
HarryHaller73,

I know these aren't NY style pizzas in Queens.

I think the kind of NY style pizzas you like are the kind that loads of pizzerias sell in my area, and they are all owned by Italian's.  My favorite local pizza used to be Papa's Pizza in Mount Joy, Pa.  This is what the pizza looks like.  It has a little rim, the cheese is the orangish yellow color and the bottom crust is not crispy and doesn't have a crunch.  https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/papas-pizza-mount-joy?select=aaR6oN_Wl_66lfUZOaOWyQ

The man that owns that pizzeria helped me develop my sauce, but it has changed some.  I know he uses Grande cheese and a high protein flour.  He uses the Saporito like I do. The rim crust is chewy and the middle of the crust is leathery/chewy, but there is no flavor in any of the crust.  The bottom crust are evenly browned.

Another place about 10 minutes from where I live is Today's Pizza.  http://www.todayspizza.com/  They also use the same cheese and their crusts are the same. 

Another place is Pizza City.  They use So Strong flour and Flotta pizza sauce. 

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g53772-d409869-Reviews-Pizza_City-Strasburg_Lancaster_County_Pennsylvania.html 

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/pizza-city-strasburg

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/pizza-city-strasburg?select=ZdTdkm1MLoLJu6n5H5GPkg

I could go on and on in posting links and photos to other pizzerias in our area, but basically I think they are NY style pizzas.  Most of the owners/families came from Italy and learned to make pizzas in NYC.

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2016, 07:19:06 AM »
HH, is the last pie you posted yours?

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2016, 10:35:32 AM »
HarryHaller73,

I know these aren't NY style pizzas in Queens.

I think the kind of NY style pizzas you like are the kind

Norma

it's interesting that there have been several posts on this thread questioning whether these NY pizzas in queens are NY pizzas. 



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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2016, 10:40:30 AM »
HH, is the last pie you posted yours?

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Re: Queens NY, IMHO, the best pizza in all the boroughs, better than Brooklyn
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2016, 10:56:27 AM »
Pizza Garden
Flushing, Queens, NYC.

Edit: Correct photo has been uploaded

Have you actually been to any of these places you post about, or are you just reposting pictures you find on Yelp like you did with these?
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