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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2017, 09:32:53 AM »
He said he would recommend All Trumps high gluten flour and for the Vantaggio cheese, Grande Provolone, "both high end pizza ingrediants that are second to none."

Even though I read this the other day, I guess I didn't notice this part. I would not use Grande provolone for Tommy's style. In fact, I would not use Grande provolone for pizza. It has a very powerful fermented flavor. I'm pretty sure the pizza place across the street from me uses Grande provolone without blending it with any mozzarella, and I can't stand it. Yes, it is a great quality cheese, but I don't think it belongs on pizza.

I wouldn't use All Trumps, either. Or Power, or KASL (King Arthur high gluten).

Also, there is nothing proprietary about any of the ingredients Tommy's uses. Bellissimo and Vantaggio are house brands, probably comparable to generic.
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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2017, 11:09:23 AM »
Thanks Zole, it's 10 am here, and I am starving now....  Great looking pie!!!   :drool:

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« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2017, 01:15:22 PM »
Great to know, Ryan! I was about to order some Grande Provo.
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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2017, 03:20:45 PM »
I accidentally deleted this post once, if I do that again, I will see how far my laptop can fly

Haven't made Tommy's in a while since my new oven died a month after the warranty expired, much to my chagrin. I recruited my neighbor to use her oven. Her oven is a basic oven, non convection like mine was but does go to 550. A plus

Started making the dough like normal but my non diastatic malt powder had coagulated into a hard clump. I used the equivalent in regular sugar. I have been using IDY for my last 7-8 attempts but realized IDY doesn't need blooming. I mixed the flour, salt, sugar together and added the manteca. I added the water and fired up the KA mixer. I used a long handled mixing spoon to help incorporate all of the flour. It took almost 6 minutes to pick all of the flour up. I did the bulk ferment for four hours and then to the fridge overnight. Rolled it out as usual and back to the fridge for four hours.

Pulled skins out and lightly docked them. Sauced both skins, put the cheese on (a sharp povolone, can't find a smoked prov locally, will be buying a smoked prov from Penn-Mac next time I buy from them) added the ezzo pepperoni and then added pecorino parm cheese instead of usual parm-rom.

Got the idea from this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/comments/26yc1o/tommys_pizza/

Heated the oven and stone for a hour. Had the bottom rack on the second to lowest rack. Had the top rack the second from the top. I used my perforated pan (like the Campus Tommy's uses although my pan holes are much smaller) going above the stone. I have had issues with the skin sticking to the wooden peel no matter how much flour I use. I decided to try cornmeal and it worked perfectly, the pie slid off perfectly onto the stone. There was no cornmeal flavor in the finished product.

Cooked the pies for about 10 minutes opening the oven three times to pop bubbles. Walked the pies back to our house and put them on meatl pans. Sliced them 4x4 and was pleasantly surprised to feel how crispy the crust was. Flipped a piece over and was very excited as to how well the crust had browned, the best to date. The lamination was great so the only thing left was to see how the finished product tasted. Everyone agreed it was about 98% close to Tommy's. The smoked provolone may do the remaining 2%. Hope so. Will be in Cbus in late October for the Penn State game and hope to meet up with Ryan again as well as Meg. 

 
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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2017, 05:38:29 PM »
I love it, great job. Like I said via text, I'll be at Penn Mac in a few days, so I will definitely check out their smoked provolone. Do you know what brand name it is? That's an affirmative yes to a Tommy's date when you're in Cbus in October.
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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2017, 05:39:46 PM »
I'll be back in Columbus as well for the Penn State game.   I'd love to meet you all and enjoy a Tommy's pizza together.

Thanks for sharing the pics.   Pizza is looking great.   I do think the smoked Provolone makes a small but noticeable difference over unsmoked.   Glad I am able to get some at my local grocery - it is in the specialty cheese area vs the deli where I get the regular provolone.

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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2017, 05:58:47 PM »
I love it, great job. Like I said via text, I'll be at Penn Mac in a few days, so I will definitely check out their smoked provolone. Do you know what brand name it is? That's an affirmative yes to a Tommy's date when you're in Cbus in October.
This is what I had bookmarked: http://www.pennmac.com/items/5734//Grande-Provolone-Log-Aged-Smoked-Provolone-Cheese

The pecorino romano: http://www.pennmac.com/items/3235//pecorino-romano-grated-doc-italian-cheese

Headed to the I.U. game on the 30th too.
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« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2017, 06:02:36 PM »
I'll be back in Columbus as well for the Penn State game.   I'd love to meet you all and enjoy a Tommy's pizza together.

Thanks for sharing the pics.   Pizza is looking great.   I do think the smoked Provolone makes a small but noticeable difference over unsmoked.   Glad I am able to get some at my local grocery - it is in the specialty cheese area vs the deli where I get the regular provolone.
I searched my local Restaurant Depot high and low for some smoked provolone but to no avail. My next Penn Mac order is going to be huge. Ezzo, smoked provolone and pecorino romano. Their inventory is amazing

Definitely have to get together the Penn State weekend. Was hoping it was going to be a night game but Fox has the World Series that night. Not a bad game time, can get Tommy's pregame AND post game.   
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« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2017, 06:12:00 PM »
I just got my Penn Mac order delivered this past week,  Ezzo and also tried their Pizza sausage that's pretty good.   Take advantage of their 1/2 price shipping!  Saved me $16 for shipping 20 lbs.    Let me know what you think of their provolone as the 7.99/lb is much better than the 12.99 / lb I'm paying.


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« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2017, 01:11:31 PM »
My latest try was a disaster. I had a bunch of people for dinner and my normal two pizzas wouldn't have been enough. I did two pan pizza's (recipe from Serious Eats) at the same time. Big mistake. I had the Tommy's on the second to the top shelf and on the second shelf from the bottom on a stone. I had the pan pizzas on the middle shelf and they went in five minutes before Tommy's. Pretty sure the pan pizzas screwed up the cook. The top of the pizzas weren't done enough and the bottom of the pizza on the stone was pretty well burnt.

The good news is that we got a new oven, same convection type as we had before. Will be breaking in the new oven this week.     
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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #90 on: September 18, 2017, 02:36:34 PM »
Awesome bubble pics!
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« Reply #91 on: October 31, 2017, 12:47:53 PM »
Had a huge post and my dog hit the cord and unplugged my laptop  :'( Will try again

We were in Cbus this past Thursday through last night for our daughter's 21st birthday. We gave her a choice: Vegas or Cbus. Our oldest had his 21st in Vegas 15 months ago. She, being the HUGE Buckeye fan she is, chose Cbus.

We arrived Thursday mid morning. We had been texting with @333meg and @Aimless Ryan about getting together for lunch Thursday. Meg also was in contact with @bobgraff and @tedcholl as well. Ted wans't coming in until Friday night so no luck there. We went to the Buckeye Corner right across from the UA Tommy's to load up on Buckeye garb. We were going to meet everyone at the UA Tommy's buy when we pulled up, they had a sign up saying they were closed and would reopen later in the day. I texted Meg to let her know so we ended up down the street at the campus Tommy's. Meg and Ryan were running a bit late but Bob showed up and we got acquainted a bit. Turns out he and I are both Upper Arlington grads, played lacrosse at UA (his coach was a teammate of mine), went to tOSU, and were in the same frat!. Small world for sure.
We ordered a large pep and a small pep and Bob ordered a pie to go as he was in a bit of a time crunch due to work. We compared notes about making Tommy's and agreed how much this forum has helped.

Our pizza came and soon thereafter Meg & Ryan showed up. Bob had to leave due to work but we all got together in the parking lot for an impromptu meet & greet. Bob and Meg realized they had gone to UA for two years together. UA is a big school so it's not unusual for people not knowing each other, especially with two years separation.  Bob left and we adjourned back to our table. Meg and Ryan got a large pep and Meg noticed round circles on the bottom of the crust. Campus Tommy's uses perforated pans, with the holes a bit smaller than a dime in their traditional deck ovens. You could see the small circles if you looked close enough.  All of the pizza was excellent although I ate waaaay too much. I hadn't had anything to eat for 18 hours and when I did eat the previous day, it was only half of a sandwich. Was great hanging out with them. Meg got a parbake pie with some bizarre baking instructions. I'll let Meg fisk the instructions.

We had been up since 3 A.M. to get on our 5:20 flight so we checked into the airbnb in Delaware and crashed. I had a huge food coma working on top of three hours sleep.

Friday, we dropped our daughter and her BF off to tour the OSU campus a bit. My wife and son took the opportunity to check into the UA Tommy's for a small pep. We were meeting friends later that night at the campus store so we went small. A couple of friends from high school and their wives met us at the campus store and we got a LOT of food. I got a half of a meatball sub to split with my wife so that cut into my pizza intake. We had close to a medium pie left over from what we ordered.

Saturday was game day and nothing says OSU tailgating better than cold Tommy's! Helped (but not enough) soak up the Bloody Mary's I was consuming. Went to the game and saw the amazing comeback by tOSU. What a game. We were pretty wiped from the game so we headed back to the airbnb. Sunday, the wife and daughter went to Cedar Point and my son and I chilled at the airbnb.

Monday was our last day in Cbus so we met a friend for lunch at the UA Tommy's. Out youngest had texted several time requesting we bring him some "authentic" Tommy's pizza. Guess mine isn't good enough...lol.

Was great getting together with Bob and Meg for the first time and seeing the PIZZA GURU Ryan again. Ryan put the work in to allow me to be able to have Tommy's (or a darn close copy) anytime desired. Being 1000 miles away for the real thing sucks.

The first picture is the lovely Meg, Ryan and I at the campus locaation. The reason I look pregnant is because I ate half of my body weight in pizza.

The second pic is from dinner Friday night, LOTS of food put away that night

The third pic is from lunch on Monday. The pepperoni was absolutely LOADED up, my son even asked of we had ordered extra pep   


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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2017, 01:05:56 PM »
Great post and pics.   I really wish I had been able to join with you all.

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Re: MY attempt at Aimless Ryan's Tommy's Pizza clone
« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2017, 01:23:26 PM »
What a great write up! I am so sorry to hear you lost the first draft, what a bummer. You had me laughing, and like I said when we met, you and your family are a lot of fun! It was great to finally meet. I'm going to re-read all your posts now that I know you. Sorry that we couldn't grub with Bob, but it was very nice he took the time out of a busy day to stop by and on such short notice too. Ryan looks like a Pizza Don in the photo. What a great time. Making the Tommy's clone has given me so much joy...and now with this pizza comraderie, even more so. Thank you Floridian :-)
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« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2017, 01:26:16 PM »
And Ted! I missed you very much, I was hoping we could make it work so our little pizza posse would be complete. Hopefully next time.
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