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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2014, 01:00:36 PM »

That is strange, I checked Fedex prices at stackry.dom and its more like $700 for 115 lbs.

I bet you didn't put in the package dimensions.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2014, 01:02:45 PM »
Take a look at this - https://bongous.com/

Came out to $1,003 when I tried it.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2014, 01:08:10 PM »
Have you checked into what your taxes and duties are going to be on the BS? According to the site I just posted, it might be another $1,000+
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2014, 01:13:47 PM »
I bet you didn't put in the package dimensions.


hmm, no bueno, with the dimensions they won't even do a quote.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2014, 01:16:15 PM »

hmm, no bueno, with the dimensions they won't even do a quote.

Push the ship date out a week.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2014, 02:08:14 PM »
Is airfreight the only option?

http://www.intercargo.com/
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2014, 02:15:26 PM »
I'm sure there is some way to get it in a container and on a boat, but people who do that for a living probably aren't going to be real excited about handling the logistics for one inexpensive oven, so I would imagine that they would charge a pretty steep premium.  I'd bet good money that someone would have to do a lot of work to get it done for less than $1,000 not including any taxes, duties, and costs to get it through customs which probably add another $1,000+. Just my guess.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2014, 02:15:50 PM »
If it was easy, BlackStone would do it...
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2014, 02:37:51 PM »
I'm sure there is some way to get it in a container and on a boat, but people who do that for a living probably aren't going to be real excited about handling the logistics for one inexpensive oven, so I would imagine that they would charge a pretty steep premium.  I'd bet good money that someone would have to do a lot of work to get it done for less than $1,000 not including any taxes, duties, and costs to get it through customs which probably add another $1,000+. Just my guess.

actually, its not that hard.   Intercargo just quote it at around 254 USD.   There are lots of shared containers that are shipped overseas.

Blackstone is not willing to sell 1 to unit to Brazil, but if you find 240 buyers they will send a 40ft container .  One guy here in Brazil tried to talk LeroyMerlin, WallMart and other big corporations to start selling this oven, but they did not reach an agreement.

Blackstone Co., cant offer support or any other guarantees over damage goods, so they just don´t sell abroad, which is understandable.

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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2014, 02:40:31 PM »
forgot to mention, 254 USD will only get the oven to Santos-sp. (nearest port).  I would still spend another 120 usd to send it to my city.  But that seems to be my best option so far.

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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2014, 03:05:44 PM »
That great you found a viable option. How does the box get to Intercargo? How much are taxes and duties going to set you back?
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2014, 03:29:52 PM »
That great you found a viable option. How does the box get to Intercargo? How much are taxes and duties going to set you back?

I dont know how box gets to intercargo  ???

well.. If everything works out, we are looking at around

399 usd Blackstone oven
254usd - Freight
391 usd - duties / taxes
120 usd - domestic freight (Santos-SP to Brasilia- DF)

Total- USD 1164.

But those things never goes smooth as a 2+2=4... so I would not be surprised if I ended up paying as much as 1300 usd.

Still have to figure a couple of things out. I´ll keep you guys posted.  Thanks for all the help and support.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2014, 04:03:28 PM »
Sounds like you did a good job.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2014, 04:30:09 PM »
Maybe Intercargo uses a courrier to pick up at my house, dunno. May have to UPS it to them.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2014, 04:31:50 PM »
Very cool of you to help.
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2014, 04:57:21 PM »
I searched for "ship freight from US to Brazil" and this was the first site I got.

http://www.shipping-worldwide.com/brazil.htm

There are a number of options there from full freight containers to shared space, shipping a box or two, to shipping cars/motorcycles.
Pickup from residential or business and drop off to residential or business.

Hopefully you can get a good quote from there.

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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2014, 05:07:39 PM »
Very cool of you to help.
Thanks C....anything for the cause.  :drool:
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2014, 09:11:33 PM »
vrumvrum, not sure how much weight factors into the shipping cost, but if it were me, I would think about having someone here strip out everything you don't need, and see how much that reduces the weight.  Norma has shown in her thread that you can make your own bottom stone, if you can find a top stone ( which has an odd size ) and a rotiss motor locally, that would save a little weight, you can also ditch the side shelves to save a little weight.  The must haves are the rotating platter, and main unit, and upper shell, and that could reduce the weight by about 20 pounds or so.  Here in the states there are some triggers that greatly increase cost - both size and weight, and if you could reduce the weight, that might save a bunch.

Bob, it was sent to a military post, so the shipping was quite reasonable, but IIRC, there was an absolute limit of 70 pounds per box to fit in that class of shipment.

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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2014, 09:21:06 PM »
vrumvrum, not sure how much weight factors into the shipping cost, but if it were me, I would think about having someone here strip out everything you don't need, and see how much that reduces the weight.  Norma has shown in her thread that you can make your own bottom stone, if you can find a top stone ( which has an odd size ) and a rotiss motor locally, that would save a little weight, you can also ditch the side shelves to save a little weight.  The must haves are the rotating platter, and main unit, and upper shell, and that could reduce the weight by about 20 pounds or so.  Here in the states there are some triggers that greatly increase cost - both size and weight, and if you could reduce the weight, that might save a bunch.

Bob, it was sent to a military post, so the shipping was quite reasonable, but IIRC, there was an absolute limit of 70 pounds per box to fit in that class of shipment.
Thanks much Barry.  8)

vrum, test what Barry has said by plugging in lower weight options on the Intercargo site.
The stones could be shipped separately much cheaper and better protected I would think maybe?
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Re: Ideas for importing a BS pizza oven overseas?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2014, 09:50:08 PM »
heh, what Barry said.
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