Any no-vent needed quality compacr pizza ovens like effeuno in U.S.?

Started by EthanPizza, December 29, 2022, 01:36:13 PM

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EthanPizza

Since effeuno is not etl, ul, of nsf rated and cant be used in U.S. restaurants, are there any comparable products that dont require venting to outside like a cuppone tizziano.

Essen1

Quote from: EthanPizza on December 29, 2022, 01:36:13 PM
Since effeuno is not etl, ul, of nsf rated and cant be used in U.S. restaurants, are there any comparable products that dont require venting to outside like a cuppone tizziano.

I am wondering the same thing. I had my eyes on the new Effeuno Evelution line but then was informed by my health department that almost every equipment needs to be NSF or ANSI certified.

However, I have yet to send Effeuno an email for them to actually confirm that their oven is not NSF certified.

The only other option I can think of is the new Cuppone Mantegna, but it'll be certainly close to double the price of the Effeuno.
Mike

"All styles of pizza are valid. I make the best I'm capable of; you should make the best you're capable of. I don't want to make somebody else's pizza." ~ Chris Bianco

Pizza_Not_War

How is Black Rock Grill using and selling Effeuno in the USA if not approved?

TXCraig1

Quote from: Pizza_Not_War on December 29, 2022, 04:13:04 PM
How is Black Rock Grill using and selling Effeuno in the USA if not approved?

He's referring to approved for use in foodservice/restaurants - in particular in an area with stupid, nonsensically strict codes.
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Pizza_Not_War

Quote from: TXCraig1 on December 29, 2022, 04:50:21 PM
He's referring to approved for use in foodservice/restaurants - in particular in an area with stupid, nonsensically strict codes.
Black Rock Grill is a restaurant chain which I assume is using them in house to heat rock platters.

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TXCraig1

Quote from: Pizza_Not_War on December 29, 2022, 05:23:58 PM
Black Rock Grill is a restaurant chain which I assume is using them in house to heat rock platters.

Not all places have punish their businesses with stupid, nonsensically strict codes.
"We make great pizza, with sourdough when we can, baker's yeast when we must, but always great pizza."  
Craig's Neapolitan Garage

Essen1

Quote from: TXCraig1 on December 29, 2022, 06:04:16 PM
Not all places have punish their businesses with stupid, nonsensically strict codes.

Did you read the OP's question?
Mike

"All styles of pizza are valid. I make the best I'm capable of; you should make the best you're capable of. I don't want to make somebody else's pizza." ~ Chris Bianco

EthanPizza

Quote from: Pizza_Not_War on December 29, 2022, 05:23:58 PM
Black Rock Grill is a restaurant chain which I assume is using them in house to heat rock platters.

Craig is correct..my county health department will only allow ovens with US based sanitation.markings. effeuno is only CE rated for europe.

EthanPizza

Quote from: Essen1 on December 29, 2022, 02:21:52 PM
I am wondering the same thing. I had my eyes on the new Effeuno Evelution line but then was informed by my health department that almost every equipment needs to be NSF or ANSI certified.

However, I have yet to send Effeuno an email for them to actually confirm that their oven is not NSF certified.

The only other option I can think of is the new Cuppone Mantegna, but it'll be certainly close to double the price of the Effeuno.

I emailed blackrockgrill they confirmed, sadly.

EthanPizza

Quote from: Essen1 on December 29, 2022, 02:21:52 PM
The only other option I can think of is the new Cuppone Mantegna, but it'll be certainly close to double the price of the Effeuno.

OK, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED! Now if only I can figure out how to get in usa....

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Essen1

Quote from: EthanPizza on December 30, 2022, 04:36:21 AM
OK, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED! Now if only I can figure out how to get in usa....

Through these guys:

http://www.pizzaequipmentpros.com/

Ask to talk to David Berger.
Mike

"All styles of pizza are valid. I make the best I'm capable of; you should make the best you're capable of. I don't want to make somebody else's pizza." ~ Chris Bianco

TOSHIO

It "might" be possible to get such a thing field certified. We run into this with UL listings on electrical equipment as much is now CE labeled... not wrong, and usually certified to a safety listing, just certified by someone else... a few inspectors want an actual certification and at least for electrical items there are options to field certify. I also ran into this issue with a medium sized coffee roaster... the assembly was not UL (or CE) certified and the electrical inspector was having a cow... there is a provision in the electrical Code that allows certain equipment to only have each component certified, not the whole assembly. Think about the SS counters...often not UL stamped and snickered as they are custom, they just have to meet the same design standards.

Of course each inspection despartment is different so YMMV.

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