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Title: da Michele franchise
Post by: ebpizza on April 25, 2019, 09:16:15 PM
Never been to any of the non Naples locations, but these franchise versions of da Michele don't look appealing. Members on this forum make better looking pizza.

https://la.eater.com/2019/3/27/18282617/antica-da-michele-pizzeria-neapolitan-hollywood-restaurant-opening
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: HansB on April 25, 2019, 09:30:19 PM
Are they franchised or company stores? I have only been to the London and Barcelona shops. London was okay, Barcelona was excellent. I’d give the LA location a shot.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on April 25, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Are they franchised or company stores? I have only been to the London and Barcelona shops. London was okay, Barcelona was excellent. I’d give the LA location a shot.

Florence was excellent and Rome was very close behind IMO.  If LA is as good as Florence, the center of the US pizza universe will shift to the West coast.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: ebpizza on April 25, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
LA isn’t listed yet, but I would assume franchise like the others...
http://www.damichele.net/dove-siamo/
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Rick_F on April 26, 2019, 10:52:28 AM
Yes Jonas, please try it for us!  Tell us if it's comparable to the real deal.

Last time I was in Los Angeles I tried pizzeria Mozza at your recommendation and was definitely not disappointed.

I will get out to Europe eventually but probably not for a couple of years, but I can get to California in a snap  ;D.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: ebpizza on May 20, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
Some close up shots of the pizza in LA

https://youtu.be/jelTPRcb-4Y
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: dmckean44 on May 20, 2019, 08:31:38 PM
I've got it make it up to LA now.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: communist on May 21, 2019, 06:42:59 PM
I agree with Jonas.  I was at the Florence da Michele and it was fantastic. Rome was close behind.  Wow, they really use a lot of bench flour.  And the rim is not that puffy.  Very thin.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on May 21, 2019, 07:33:47 PM
I have reservations for lunch on June 8th.  I'll give everyone the scoop afterwards.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: rdbedwards on May 23, 2019, 07:10:28 PM
Jsaras, have you also been to the original in Naples?  If so, I'm really looking forward to your comparison of LA. 
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on May 23, 2019, 08:11:46 PM
Jsaras, have you also been to the original in Naples?  If so, I'm really looking forward to your comparison of LA.   

I have not, though I can't imagine it could be any better than what I had in Florence.  But I could be wrong!
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: weissblut on May 27, 2019, 05:39:51 AM
It's been like forever since I've visited this forum... glad to see it's still rocking.

I've been to Da Michele in Napoli hundreds of times (I'm from there originally). I've also been to the one in London, Tokyo, and Roma.

Tbh the original location is still the best. I was talking to the pizzaioli there and they say it's mostly the softness of the water and the amazing vintage Gianni Acunto oven.

London was close. Tokyo wasn't the best (it was too crispy with very little leoparding which was disappointing).

I'm going to visit my mom and sister in Napoli at the end of July. Will report back after my usual tour - my sister said there's some new great pizzerias that might dethrone Michele... we'll see!
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Rick_F on June 08, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
My oldest daughter graduated high school a couple weeks ago and to celebrate we took a trip to Los Angeles to visit Universal Studios which is her favorite theme park as she is a huge Harry Potter fan. While in town I could not pass up the opportunity to try Da Michele.  When you look them up online it will give you the option to make a reservation via opentable.com  I suggest that you call the restaurant directly because opentable showed that they were completely booked, except that they were not. There was no wait at all and we were immediately seated.

The pizza was great, I ordered a Margherita with double cheese since I was sharing it with my wife.  I also had the scallops with shaved black truffles, also amazing.  The wine list is all Italian, we ordered a bottle of sangiovese to accompany our dinner.
I was able to meet Francesco Zimone the owner, and Michele Rubini the pizzaiolo.  Both very friendly, very hospitable gentlemen.  Michele even took me inside their pizza preparation area, showed me their Stefano Ferrara oven, and talked pizza for a few minutes.

I finally got a chance to resize some not very good pictures, I am not great at taking pics lol.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: hotsawce on June 08, 2019, 01:14:12 PM
The pizza looks excellent, though maybe not baked quite as hot as the pizza at some of the other franchises?
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Rick_F on June 08, 2019, 05:30:04 PM
This is the only Da Michele that I have been to.  I am patiently awaiting the review by Jonas who has been to multiple locations and I believe he will be eating there today per his previous post.  :)
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 08, 2019, 06:41:40 PM
Here's my brief rundown for the pizza geeks here.  The pizzas here were within a standard operating deviation of what I had at the Florence location, which is to say excellent.  Interestingly, the double cheese margherita pizza here had about 3 times the amount of cheese that we had in Florence and Rome and it was more melted.  That may be a concession to the American/Hollywood crowd.  Next time, I'll order a regular margherita to see how it compares.  The Cosacca was excellent and the same that my wife and I experience in Florence.  My wife, 7 year-old daughter and I all agreed that it was our favorite of the three pizzas we ordered.  The pecorino they use far surpasses anything I've been able to find locally. The bake times were 40-45 seconds.  They use Solea tomatoes, Fior d'Agerola mozzarella and 320-330 gram dough balls stretched to about 15 inches.   
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 08, 2019, 06:42:46 PM
more pics
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 08, 2019, 06:46:57 PM
last set of pics.  The higher quality pics can be seen here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmE8hmnb
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: dmckean44 on June 09, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
Awesome!

I'm headed up to check it out on the 22nd.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: hotsawce on June 10, 2019, 01:07:14 AM
Any details on how they were fermenting the dough? I assume all room temperature. But LA is hot in the summer.

The mozzarella from Agerola surpasses anything we produce here...it's not as good as bufala but if we're talking cows milk mozzarella it's next level. I wonder who's distributing this stuff for them? I estimated 300g at around 14" - even if not 15", still much thinner than most neapolitan spots.

I'm very jealous I wish I could try it out!
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 10, 2019, 10:16:57 AM
Any details on how they were fermenting the dough? I assume all room temperature. But LA is hot in the summer.

The mozzarella from Agerola surpasses anything we produce here...it's not as good as bufala but if we're talking cows milk mozzarella it's next level. I wonder who's distributing this stuff for them? I estimated 300g at around 14" - even if not 15", still much thinner than most neapolitan spots.

I'm very jealous I wish I could try it out!

I didn’t do a full interogation :-D.   I was happy to get the details that I did.  I’ll ask more questions on future visits.   I was more interested in getting to know the staff, which I did without revealing the depths of my craziness.   

They indicated that they had several choices of cheese that they could have chosen (including their pecorino), so it’s likely that list is dictated by the franchise agreement.  They also mentioned that certain cheeses were easier to get to the London location. 
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Rick_F on June 10, 2019, 10:44:59 AM
I asked him about fermentation and yeast.  They do a room temp fermentation and adjust yeast quantities accordingly.  LA has really nice weather and even though it can be hot in the summer, restaurants have A/C.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: dmckean44 on June 10, 2019, 11:29:56 AM
The average summer temperature between Hollywood and Naples isn't that different. It gets a little hotter during the day in August but it's also cooler at night.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 10, 2019, 01:06:28 PM
I asked him about fermentation and yeast.  They do a room temp fermentation and adjust yeast quantities accordingly.  LA has really nice weather and even though it can be hot in the summer, restaurants have A/C.

Between the two of us, we’re one smart person
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Rick_F on June 10, 2019, 02:11:36 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: CaptBob on June 10, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
This is terrible picture but this was the double cheese in Florence from three weeks ago.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: HansB on June 10, 2019, 10:09:12 PM
How did you like it Bob? I had the Doppia once in London and prefer the balance of the regular amount of mozz.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on June 10, 2019, 10:33:48 PM
FWIW, this is the doppio I had in Florence
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: CaptBob on June 11, 2019, 08:37:23 AM
How did you like it Bob? I had the Doppia once in London and prefer the balance of the regular amount of mozz.

Hey Hans. It was delicious but i think i would do the regular next time as well. Ours seemed to have more cheese on it than the pic that Jonas posted.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: HansB on June 11, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
Hey Hans. It was delicious but i think i would do the regular next time as well. Ours seemed to have more cheese on it than the pic that Jonas posted.

The one I had did too. Just a bit too much of a good thing.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Stichus III on July 12, 2019, 09:45:07 AM
The LA Times is calling Da Michele LA a flop.

https://www.latimes.com/food/pizzeria-da-michele-hollywood-review-bill-addison-story.html

Ouch.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on July 12, 2019, 12:37:46 PM
The LA Times is calling Da Michele LA a flop.

https://www.latimes.com/food/pizzeria-da-michele-hollywood-review-bill-addison-story.html

Ouch.

The non-pizza additiions to the menu are still in flux and they’re not the best part of the menu.  The owner knows that and he’s committed to improving it, i.e., he’s not arrogant or oblivious.  When we went, he specifically asked us if we liked the Ceasar salad, how it was prepared, presented, etc.  We gave him our honest feedback and he was genuinely glad to hear it.  I have little doubt that within a year they’ll have their non-pizza menu sorted out.  That aside, the writer is incorrect about the pizza.  They’re the same size as you get in their Italian locations and they’re as close to identical as can be made here.

Pizzeria Mozza is relatively closeby.  In my estimation, they have the reverse issue.  Their non-pizza items outshine the pizza. 
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Stichus III on July 12, 2019, 03:15:51 PM
That aside, the writer is incorrect about the pizza.  They’re the same size as you get in their Italian locations and they’re as close to identical as can be made here.


That is exactly what I got from your mini review earlier in this thread.

Maybe the reviewer hasn't really been to the original or his memory is simply incorrect (he says he was there 'years ago'). 

 
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on November 10, 2019, 05:38:32 PM
My gang  visited Da Michele Hollywood today for lunch.  I was surprised to see the expanded pizza menu.  They clearly had to make concessions to the LA market.  We had the diavola and the Caserta.  I struck up a conversation with the head pizzaiolo on duty.  I didn't get much out of him, other than they ferment at about 57F and that they cut they cheeze with a knife.  Although we thoroughly enjoyed both pizzas, I think that the extra toppings detracted from the simplicity of their standard pizzas.  I still think that the Cosacca is their best pie.

Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on November 10, 2019, 05:39:14 PM
more pics
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: ebpizza on November 20, 2019, 08:52:18 AM
Those look very tasty, but to me they don’t look like anything like the Naples location. 
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on November 20, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
Those look very tasty, but to me they don’t look like anything like the Naples location.

They don't serve toppings at the Naples location  :D
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: ebpizza on November 20, 2019, 01:56:50 PM
Yes I know that, but the rest of pie doesn’t look like a DaMichele pizza
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on February 21, 2020, 05:03:05 PM
I had a Cosacca pizza today.  I think this may be the best bake I've had there.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: HansB on February 21, 2020, 07:30:13 PM
That looks like the pizza I've had at their London/Barcelona stores.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Ryan Autry on July 12, 2020, 04:25:58 AM
I visited this restaurant a few week ago. I thought the pizza was delicious.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Ryan Autry on July 12, 2020, 04:30:33 AM
My first visit here back in December 2019
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Quebert on July 12, 2020, 06:06:19 AM
Never been to any of the non Naples locations, but these franchise versions of da Michele don't look appealing. Members on this forum make better looking pizza.

https://la.eater.com/2019/3/27/18282617/antica-da-michele-pizzeria-neapolitan-hollywood-restaurant-opening

I'd try it and see for myself, the pizza I made tonight was terrible looking but it was probably one of the best pizza's I've had. I will agree though for a place that stems from such history and that the real team flew all the way from Italy to quality-test. So I'm guessing it got the thumbs up from them. And the restaurant looks beautiful, and being in Beverly Hills, they're going to have to sell a damn lot of pizzas to be profitable.

Even if they are delicious, I kinda like how aesthetically they look like something I made. Tells me maybe there is hope for my pizzas yet lol.


The article says "The dough can only be touched 3 times after the toppings are added"  Outside of some Italians being super picky about things just because they're Italian, is there any damn reason for this?  And both pictures the pizzas are full of Leopard spots, don't people on here say in Italy that's a sign of a poor excuse for a pizza that wasn't made properly? I'm confused now lol.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: foreplease on July 12, 2020, 08:34:37 AM
I visited this restaurant a few week ago. I thought the pizza was delicious.
Very nice. Welcome to the forum, Ryan. I hope your Ooni Pro arrives soon.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on February 15, 2021, 07:07:08 PM
Went to Da Michele today to celebrate my 55th birthday.  We ordered the Cosacca, a Margherita with sausage, Ceasar salad, wine, and gelato.  Delightful from beginning to end.
Title: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on February 15, 2021, 07:07:56 PM
pics part 2. Note the oven pictured is located behind the facility (not the main oven).  My guess is that it's used when they're slammed.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: HansB on February 15, 2021, 07:49:56 PM
Looks like a great Birthday dinner. Happy Birthday!
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Post by: Jon in Albany on February 15, 2021, 08:03:56 PM
Looks great. Happy Birthday.

I forget which video I watched to first hear the correct pronunciation of da Michele. Still smile every time I see it.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: jsaras on February 15, 2021, 09:45:12 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes Hans and Jon!
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Post by: scott r on February 15, 2021, 09:58:52 PM
Jonas, it has been a joy watching your daughter grow up over the years.  Best of wishes to you on your 55!   Im hitting the 50 on Wednesday, go aquarians!
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: foreplease on February 16, 2021, 03:20:43 AM
So glad you were able to celebrate your 55th at one of your favorite places — and that they came through for you — with your family. Enjoy the rest of your 50s (you too, Scott) because the 60s are not as good as you’ve heard.  :-D


I’m kidding. Many good things have happened for me.
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: foreplease on February 16, 2021, 03:33:40 AM
Jonas, it has been a joy watching your daughter grow up over the years.  Best of wishes to you on your 55!   Im hitting the 50 on Wednesday, go aquarians!
Scott, this was very popular when I was 10-11, which is about when you were born. It’s catchy, if you are unfamiliar with it. Enjoy your day, Wednesday.
https://youtu.be/ozwO_HX8rf8 (https://youtu.be/ozwO_HX8rf8)
Title: Re: da Michele franchise
Post by: Pete-zza on February 16, 2021, 10:04:41 AM
Jonas,

Happy Birthday to one of the most helpful members on the forum ;D. I, too, have enjoyed seeing how your daughter has progressed over time.

Peter
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Post by: scott r on February 16, 2021, 12:10:11 PM
Tony, what a blast from the past.  I do remember that one,,, really fun song and video!
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Post by: Glutenboy on February 18, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Happy birthday, Jonas!