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Title: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on June 28, 2011, 05:32:50 PM
Announcing a new "Mobile Wood Fired Catering Experience" Flirting With FireSo I have Really done this, its official, and buckle your seat belts it is Taking off !! I grabbed the Name from Pizza Police when someone else was looking for a mobile name and they did not take it. Something about Fire and flirting that allways interested me  >:D
After hanging around here for 6+ years and working with my home WFO I have developed a passion for producing, serving and eating  ;) Neapolitan pizza. My logo is "Bringing Pizza to the People" I know I have heard it and its probably around here somewhere? but who cares. I also use "We're Fired" on my card.
I do not posses the intimate knowledge of many of the members here, and the countless new members like PizzaNeapoletana,  nor do I claim to be any kind of Master but I know based on the reviews the product is definitely edible :P
After doing 3-4 paid demos for my friend who is selling those barrel ovens and people begging for cards and More pizza, and pushing me to go for it. I decided to give it a go. I am not giving up my Day Job ! I have paid for the equipment and that allows me to do what I want when I want. Its meant to be a small business, focused on private catering and special events. I do not want to do huge 2000 people festivals although the money would be nice its just too much work! After doing it for a month now I realize How much work it is just to do a 40 person Party, and I do not want to sacrifice quality for $$ profit (I know yet) No premade skins, par bales or rolling pins .... Like a Mini PF Taylor I am doing it all myself for now ( up to 25 no problem) and with 1 helper if needed.
As other mobile operators have mentioned its really a lot of fun ! Everybody is allways in the party mood and So many questions, and so much information to share. Fire Brings Friends together! Its great to hear in the background "oh my god this is soo good!" or " Hey you gotta try this one" or like most other woodies here "this is the best pizza I have ever had" Honestly this is why I am doing it. I love it! so why not get paid!
Anyway I will keep my posts on events and info here if OK with the moderators, and I thank everybody for the info thy have shared over the years. It Works! This is such a great Place.

I researched mobile ovens for months and came up with a local builder Peter de Jong at Fired Up Kitchens and he built an an oven that I can get into back yards, pool parties, but really kicks [email protected]#$%#  when you crank it up! The oven has  40" hearth room and plenty for 3 if need be. I dream of a  48" hearth someday but I really like what I have for now.
Here the pics I have been taking. more to follow as we begin the journey!
John
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Post by: selprop on June 28, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
John,

Much success on your new business adventure, :chef:

Congrats,


Mark
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Post by: PaulsPizza on June 28, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
I wish you the very best John!

Paul
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Post by: flyboy4ual on June 28, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Congratulations and have fun!  The trailer looks awesome.

Scott D.
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Post by: wheelman on June 28, 2011, 07:26:51 PM
nice John!  best of luck with it.  i look forward to hearing how it goes. 
bill
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Post by: trosenberg on June 28, 2011, 07:37:28 PM
Looks great!  Best of Luck.
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Post by: dellavecchia on June 28, 2011, 07:51:58 PM
You are living the dream, John!

John
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Post by: Pete-zza on June 28, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
John,

Don't sell yourself short. You are one of the forum's masters. Good luck in your new venture. I'm sure the psychic rewards will be substantial. Maybe real money will follow.

Peter
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Post by: Bill/SFNM on June 28, 2011, 08:33:10 PM
Super, super cool, John. It's sure to be a big success.

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Post by: pizzaboyfan on June 28, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
That's a great looking set up and the perfect way to run a pizza business.
No rent, no overhead, and you open when you want to.
The boss looks like a nice enough guy.
Good luck !
Perry

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Post by: Jackie Tran on June 28, 2011, 08:59:27 PM
Congrats John!   Good luck on your new venture.  That looks like a super sweet setup.  I'm sooooo envious!  Enjoy buddy!  We are all rooting for you!

Chau
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on June 28, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Congrats John.
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Post by: Matthew on June 28, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
Way to go Johnny boy!  I'm happy that you finally came out of the closet!

Matt
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Post by: JConk007 on June 28, 2011, 10:27:25 PM
THANK YOU ALL! For your good wishes. Its gonna be a great summer for sure, and I am very happy with the way its taking off so quickly just by word of mouth. Right now I have a Parties Booked for July 2, July 16th, July 17th,August 13th, and several others who promised they would be picking a day soon! Very cool .The first round of pictures were my Phone Camera pics here are a few with a real camera for web or emailblast. The one you can see the "other oven " in the back ground she is quite jealous  :'( of her new big brother. I keep thinking who has 2 Wood fired ovens? am I nuts? Is this for real?
The oven sets up quick and easy, I have a dolly for under the trailer ball to wheel it around (3 people)and the 4 corner jacks level and raise it up to a height that works well for me. The wood is stored in front, enough for 3 parties and there is a nice size storage area under for all the other goodies you carry along for the setup. The tongue also comes right out, so if space is tight people are not walking into it. I burned for several hours at 800 + and you can just place you hand anywhere on the oven warm if that to the touch so he's well insulated indeed 4 layers of Blanket!
One thing I really need, and hoping some of you computer wizzes (many on this forum) can help me out, is a web Page ASAP. My email is [email protected] corny but cute, However  I have no Web site which so many request these days. My time is becoming a bit short already I am more than happy to pay for this service if there is anyone that can help out or point me in the right direction. To start I would like just a simple one pager with some bullet points and pics, maybe short menu. Also a link to simple calender so people can see where I am and what is available would be nice.
Thanks again everbody !
John
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Post by: norma427 on June 28, 2011, 11:33:17 PM
John,

Congratulations!  Your set-up and name for your business are really cool!  ;D

Best of luck!

Norma
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Post by: Tman1 on June 28, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
Congrats!  I sent you an email with a name for the website and logo.
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Post by: WestCountry on June 29, 2011, 12:23:56 AM
John,
Congrats on the new venture...you will ROCK IT!

by the way- those pans you got me are awesome...still using them regularly (mostly for 'home run inn' style thin crust)  :)

Chris
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Post by: JConk007 on June 29, 2011, 12:35:01 AM
-Thanks Chris Thats what I use them for as well great for that cracker crust style.
You are TheMan for sending info but I dont see it on any email or PM ? I do Thank you!
John
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Post by: Jet_deck on June 29, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
Congrats!  I think you should consider a coast-to-coast tour.  That way we can all see it in person.
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Post by: thezaman on June 29, 2011, 10:26:41 AM
John, good luck with your new buisness you are going to do great!! Your passion will not allow anything but your best. I have had great success with cambro catering boxes for my dough. I also have one to use on the make table for ingrediants . How are you handling dough managment?
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Post by: landras on June 29, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
Congrats man, I hope I could have one of those too, the best luck to you.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 29, 2011, 02:23:28 PM
Larry Thank you!
Have you been doing any evenys / parties with your new mobile truck? I looked hard at the Cambro Storage and as you use them for your pizzeria catering I have no other use aside from weekend Catering. After working the numbers $  and some hard searching I went for the full blown 48" Pizza prep Table with a nice marble top! It slips easily right in the pick up and works great! have a nice small silent generator but most people have a plug. Its also a professional look to the businness. you know Image is important to me  ;), But dough Management is MORE important. Not only can it hold over 100 dough balls it holds all the huge variety of ingredients at tempurture, and at your fingetips ! and speed is key here too!. If 1 topping  runs out reach below fill her up with fresh stuff! The Health department also loves it as everything is kept @ 41 degrees or below. Dough comes out as soon as they round the corner! its a room temp dough but a 90 -100 degree day can wreak havoc on dough trays after 3-4 hours outside you might as well just do fried dough :-D. So I went for the sure thing. and every so glad I did! Here is the Table in action and in the truck . Need to work on the rampsthey work fine for now and I had them for a friend in a wheelchair who visits,  but 2 people easily get her up an in no problem. I am looking now for 2 10" aluminum folding ramps (so its not so Sanford and Son ish)  You cant get everything at once right?
JOhn
Landras I can have one for you in 3-4 weeks!
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Post by: pizzaboyfan on June 29, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
In what part of Jersey are you located ?

Perry
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Post by: chickenparm on June 29, 2011, 02:47:12 PM
Wow,looks like a fun Business Venture! Best wishes and hope you will have great success! The work you have shown us thus far is incredible.

 8)
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on June 29, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
John that's an awesome setup. Nice oliera. I think they sell those metal ramps at Home Depot.
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Post by: apizza on June 29, 2011, 03:56:00 PM
Looks like a great setup. I hope you are extremely successful.
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Post by: texmex on June 29, 2011, 04:24:09 PM
Wow, that is a great set-up! 

You might find those ramps at Harbor Freight.
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Post by: TXCraig1 on June 29, 2011, 06:07:14 PM
Very nice John. I'm excited for you. That's the only way to have a restaurant/food business - when you don't have to worry about making money or not and you can just have fun.

CL
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Post by: JConk007 on June 29, 2011, 08:44:16 PM
CL -that was the plan from the get go- do it, do it right, and Pay up front so there is no pressure! as you said that keeps it fun! not that big of an investment in the grand scheme of things.

TM - I went to Harbor frieght they have the folding ramps  but too short I  need at least 8-10' and also they would have to be topped with some type of material to cover the openings more for ATV not PPT. also its nice to have a edge to keep the wheels onboard when you load and unload the unit.  

Another good point is the room to cold ferment if needed. back to back parties ... plenty of room for everything.

Heres cooking with My 2 favorite GI tools!

John
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Post by: jeff v on June 30, 2011, 09:32:17 AM
Congrats John-I'm really happy for you, and wish you the best!

Jeff
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Post by: Tman1 on June 30, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
I don't think you've mentioned it, what brand is the actual oven?
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Post by: PizzaPolice on June 30, 2011, 11:17:56 AM
Nice rig, John.  Looks like all that hand wringing paid off!

We had ours out for a graduation party last weekend.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 03, 2011, 04:58:11 PM
PARTY TIME  ;D
Heres the set up from a recent Party oven / prep table serving station.... fun fun fun I think I look happier than my day job?? wonder why?
John
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Post by: JConk007 on July 03, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
and you ask, what comes from that fire in a little mobile oven?. some favorites Margherita, Eggplant,  White with Shrooms and Truffle oil. Asparagus Prosciutto, and Meat for the only 3 guys there :) !
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Post by: scott123 on July 03, 2011, 06:11:23 PM
Looks great, John.

One suggestion-  WFOs are about phenomenal tasting pizza, obviously, but there's a small theatrical component.  If you've got the space, always try to face the mouth of the oven so that your customers can get a good look inside and see the pizzas as they're being baked.

Oh, and that prep table is sweet!
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Post by: JConk007 on July 03, 2011, 06:48:11 PM
Great Point Scott, and thanks for bringing the oven direction to my attention . This particular set up was 2 fold. Party was up a level so actually people came down to check it out, and, it was threatening rain actually drizzling on set up  so I really lucked out.  I was going to prep in the garage and run straight out and cook if it poured It did not  thank god. Its nice to have them see whats what, but when they start hangin too close and I get get to the oven, I am running solo for now, it becomes an issue so I will use the serving table as a barrier and also like to show of the pizza making theatrics and cool prep table as well.
thanks again. I  appreciate any input and it means a lot,  as Yes I can honestly say I am a rookie at this part !
John
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Post by: PizzaPolice on July 03, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
You may also think about sticking a table in front of the prep table.  People like to group up there to watch their pizzas being created.  Consequently, they lean on the open lids.  That causes the pins to bend.

You sure look happy.
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Post by: scott123 on July 03, 2011, 11:10:01 PM
John, while we're on the topic of equipment arrangement, I would suggest some sort of barrier to cordon off your entire work area.  That way, you can work in peace and not be concerned about intruders (big or small). Out of all outdoor cooking methods, I think WFOs are incredibly safe, but I still think it's a good idea to let the partygoers know "hey, this is MY space."  This time, you had the house and a/c unit as barriers, but, one of these times, you will most likely find yourself in an open area. It would take too many tables to cordon off all 4 sides, so I think something along the lines of a rope barrier would be a better choice. I took a look at a few rope/tape barrier websites and, man, those things are expensive. The plastic ones are less expensive:

https://www.schooloutfitters.com/catalog/product_info/pfam_id/PFAM6256/products_id/PRO16260?sc_cid=GoogleFeed_MRC-959-6

but... they also look like plastic. Black plastic stanchions and black plastic chains probably wouldn't look that horrible and they would be light.  Considering the amount of lugging you're presently doing, light is good.

If it were me, I might go the DIY route. A 4' dowel from home depot, a 12" pizza platter as a base and some small C hooks could translate into sub $10 stanchion.

Edit:  I found cheaper plastic stanchions:

http://www.twinsupply.com/party/proddetail.asp?prod=57658

Rather than $24 a stanchion, these are a set of 4 for $42.

This page here:

http://www.partycheap.com/Red_Rope_Stanchion_Set_p/57658.htm?click=6103

gives a little more detail with a close up of the very cheap looking coiled plastic rope.
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Post by: Ev on July 04, 2011, 06:45:11 AM
Wow!, That's great, John! Let me know if you ever get a gig out this way and need an extra pair of hands. :chef:
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Post by: Matthew on July 04, 2011, 08:16:26 AM
Good stuff John!

Matt
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Post by: thezaman on July 08, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
john, you asked about events that i have cooked at .tonight we did a popular local winery. their food service director asks the vendors to set up for 60 people. we did 75 dough balls in an hour and a half. the food service director wasn't to happy. after she calmed down she asked when we could come back.being a friday night and trying to manage my every day friday sales and this off premise event was quite stressful but after the positive customer feed back it was worth it.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 11, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
Keep em wanting for more Larry good move! Here is my pleasant setting balling up in the am for the evening party this is what 35 dough balls look like pre ball and tray. Nice setting Mambo Italiano in the background cup o coffee, under the umbrella, shade and lush surrounding make for Happy dough balls  ;D
I have Back to Back events/ parties for the 1st timethis weekend,  friday evening and saturday afternoon double fun! and making 75 balls total!  I am planning making the dough on thursday midday balling 30 friday morning for friday night leaving the rest in bulk ? or should I just ball and let go ? the artisan trays are a good seal and I really prefer the 2-3 day old dough with .2% idy to me it tastes a bit better! any thoughts suggestions are welcome  ? I may ball everything and just keep in fridge.Then 4-6 hrs room pre party. I  will see how it comes out same dough same oven 1 day later this is how we learn, by doing. Like I did with the dough, stretch fold once rest a bit then I kinda halfed it 2nd pic made it easier to work than a larger log 2nd pic  learning everytime ;) time this production stuff is much different than the 1000G 5 ball batch for sure! Really getting busy, and still having fun!
John
JOhn
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on July 11, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
John you and Larry are living the life.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 17, 2011, 09:08:21 AM
What a weekend! Perfect Weather, Great set ups, and some Great people (pizza was ok too). I am sure there will be a few more booking after doing these 2. Its been quite a steep learning curve to date with Flirting With Fire  as far as  what to bring topping wise and what to charge. How to handle the actual cooking time. set up and breakdown times. Also,I must say as Larry did its a lot of work and schlepping!  But I am really  loving it! Learning very quickly what it really takes to step up beyond the 10 pizzas in the backyard for my friends. By Jobe I think I've got it! Here are a few on location shots of from this weekends parties, and How I am able to get into great spots close to the action with my oven.  The prep table is really turning out to be a big +plus. With out it at 90 degrees in the sun dough management gets a little tough! oh and its paid$ for itself already!  ;)
john
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Post by: JConk007 on July 17, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
1st post  was fri night Cooked til 10:30 so Yesterday heat up was about 45 min! Bill ( ash managment) they had a fire pit so I shoveled everything out into ash bucket and poured into fire. Yesterday I put the ashes in bucket filled with water brushed out oven and took off no issues. I could have cooked a pie when I got home! but I had had enough after 65 pizzas! Maybe today  :P This set up was at the end of te driveway and my harbor frieght close out tent turned out to be the best $49 dollars I have spent on FWF so far. ( notice the shade!) It was hot and I love it.  But direct sun on prep area causes some struggles. Heres this set up yesterday.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 17, 2011, 09:25:23 AM
oops Yes I did make pizza! Just finiding it hard to remember to take pics once the  Pizzas are flying everywhere.  :chef:
John
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Post by: norma427 on July 17, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
John,

Your set-up and pizzas look awesome!   ;D

Norma
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Post by: PizzaPolice on July 17, 2011, 10:38:26 AM
Looks Great! 
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Post by: acbova on July 17, 2011, 05:09:55 PM
Add me to your list of admirers!  So cool.  How long does it take you to lift the trailer when you get onsite?  I'm guessing it's real handy to have the oven at the right height.  Is it comparable to your WFO at home?

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Post by: thezaman on July 17, 2011, 08:21:06 PM
john,looks like you had a great weekend!! your setup is amazing! you may have to give up that day job.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 17, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
Thanks Norma,Dan,Larry But there is no way I am giving up my day job. there are a few days I enjoy that too! ( fewer) and it allows me to push on with this fun endeavor.
ACbova.
I was totally set up in 1 hr. on Saturday. The oven itself once unhooked takes maybe 10 minutes at most including putting on the chimney and cranking it up. I am 6"2" and value my back so yes it is helpful to be able to raise it up to proper cooking height its very simple.
Thanks!
John
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Post by: landras on July 18, 2011, 04:50:12 PM
Looking good, looking good!! keep it up, congratulations, I can picture myself doing what you do now in the near future!
nico
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Post by: TXCraig1 on July 18, 2011, 04:56:46 PM
This is really exciting stuff John. Congratulations on your well deserved success!

CL
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Post by: apizza on July 18, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
This is one of the best set ups I've seen. The fact that you can get the oven close to the action, only adds to the success of the event. I've seen trucks, including converted fire trucks, but they not may fit everywhere. Very well thought out and I wish you the best.
In the end it's about pizza, and I suspect your customer's are very happy in that regard. Good luck.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 18, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
Thanks again everyone. All it takes is a "dollar and a dream" or is that a "Plan and a Peel? " I really liked the Big Green truck and thats kind of what pushed me into this.  I also saw the fire truck post here from conn. and saw several fire trucks on Ebay that I almost purchased. But the final investment could not be justified part time. Its not just the oven expense but you also need so many gizmo's and gadgets from cooling trays, to proofing containers, table clothes, prep tables ... IN the end this is the way to go to start out and if anybody is interested in purchasing such an oven please run it past me! I do love the fact that I can be in or close to the action. I am working on a trailer dolly with ball for the front where 3-4 people can push the oven into location with out the pick up truck provided the area is reasonably level. My plan is to see how it goes and maybe keep this unit for exactly these type of events and get a larger 48" oven on a 2 axle trailer side mounted for production gigs and festivals if it really takes off, and I really loose my mind.
As far as the Pizza Yes no starters, poolish or biga here  or even fancy effective hydration here  just a 20 min autolyse yes for sure !   and Just simple good ingredients oh  a nice mixer helps! I have only heard A lot of "oh my gods" and some very very positive feedback, thats actually another reason I jumped in, so yes I assume the customers are quite happy at least everyone has paid so far + ! so it cant be all that bad.
And Craig thank you also! You are not the only on with an oven in your garage  :P thats where I keep it most of time. but the thought of getting your beautiful grand piece on a trailer haunts me ! so I will stick with my baby grand. I should run some 8 " flex pipe through roof so I can like back under clip in and bake even in the rain ! just a thought but it is a thought now darn U ???
John
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Post by: chickenparm on July 19, 2011, 02:32:45 PM
Your work area set up is better than alot of pizza shops I used to eat at back in NY.
I bet the pizzas are too! Looks like alot of fun along with the hard work.

:)

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Post by: parallei on July 19, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
Hey John,

Just noticed this thread.......very cool!  Have fun.  It sure does look like a lot of work in the heat.  Judging by those pies, I'm sure you'll be a great success ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on July 19, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
Thank bill and Parelli having a great time next 24th party then 28th 60 people adults. Yes pies coming out ok but still working out the nuances of the mobile oven
What heat? I grew up laying 300 degree asphalt in this weather now that was hot and you can't eat it!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on July 29, 2011, 07:32:15 PM
Barefoot Pizza on THE BEACH!! So it keeps getting  better. Thursday night Party was for my Platform /Tennis club at the lake I was approached by the events coordinator at the club we advertised and it sold out with a waiting list! very cool. My biggest party to date 60 people ! Most people were in awe at the oven and the 90second bake. Lots of people very interested Shared a little speach on the Neapolitan style and what makes it neapolitan. I made 68 pies in around 2 hrs time. I  had 1 friend who helped me with the oven and I stretched and dressed the pies.  It was a great Party! other plus was Boston  brewing company was there with a sampling of the Samuel Adams line so that kept a few at large for a few minutes anyway. and helped get a few more shoes off.  The  Oven was in a zone, about 850 hearth and 900 walls. Cranking out some perfect pies! as he was pulling out I was slipping the next right under. good rythmn. Did not even move pr rake the coals just kept the flame licking the dome an few passes with the brush now and again Lots of work and prep but worth it all! I uped the hydration just .5% to 62.5% and gave 75% of the flour a mix and rest for 25 min. (Effective or no?) I did not get to take any pics of pizza but others did and I will post when they get them to me Really Nice some of my best. Thanks again to Frank at Vesta Pizzeria for use of his Killer Diving arm mixer this was a 26 lbs of flour batch made 78 balls and fed the crowd  til they surrendered!  :-D
John
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Post by: RobynB on July 29, 2011, 10:30:30 PM
Looks like a blast!  You sure are booking a lot of parties - very impressive so quickly.  You are doing amazing stuff!
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Post by: norma427 on July 29, 2011, 11:11:13 PM
John,

Wow, 68 pies in 2 hrs. time!  ;D  Continued success to you.  Sounds like you are really having fun.

Norma
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Post by: Jet_deck on July 29, 2011, 11:35:23 PM
John, it looks like alot of fun. 

By the way, you are finished flirting with fire.  Might as well get a room at Motel 6 and make it official.  :-D :pizza: :chef:
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Post by: JConk007 on July 30, 2011, 08:47:55 AM
Thanks all,
Gene, This is upscale catering, do you thing I could do the Marriot?
Yes taking off for only word (taste) of mouth. No advertising, no web, and plenty to keep me going
As far as fun yes the actual cooking and party time are allways tons of fun.
Its the chop ,shop, dough, ball dough, clean, load , unload, clean again .... that I am now realizing I could use some assistance with. Must say my pizza muscles (wrists, forearms) are a bit sore after balling 80 and making 68. good workout. When you give a price to someone its hard for them to get a handle on the other 10+ hours of behind the scenes work that goes into the Event.  For now I would not change a thing, with the exception of someone to help with the odds and ends. This is still a passion for me and still fun, I love educating the public on real Neapolitan Pizza, and oh and still just a side gig. My goal is to keep it right here for the time being and not sacrifice the product in any way. The comments I get each time are really really great and keep the dream alive.
John
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Post by: JConk007 on August 13, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
For Robyn and Scott Here is a quick Video of the slick use of the GI metal perforated peel (you both got from some nice guy on this forum) from and party I did. It was  taken on camera phone so its not the best but see the peel. Just slip under with minimum flour and zip into the oven, which part are you struggling with? lots of vids on the GI site as well from the real pros. Keep practicing. This is now my favorite tool and this is the 62% dough  

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6-z2UsisQ 

ps I have 3 or 4 of those authentic oil cans from Italy just off the boat  I am will to sell, brandy new in the bag for who ever emails 1st
john
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Post by: JConk007 on August 13, 2011, 12:07:28 PM
Here are the Killer Cans! for Furum Members wood fired or not.
John
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Post by: Tman1 on August 13, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
I'm in for one of those!!  PM me the details.

I read in a previous post you were looking for something to hand maneuver the trailer in certain situations...
http://www.bing.com/shopping/deluxe-trailer-dolly/p/ECB1482AE0CE4FE55006?q=trailer+dolly&lpq=trailer%20dolly&FORM=HURE
Hopefully I understood that correctly. They do have motorized ones that boat and trailer places use too, but they might not be as useful on grass, and definitely not as cheap!

Did I miss how you get the PPT off the truck? I assume ramps of some sort.
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Post by: Tman1 on August 13, 2011, 01:35:29 PM
Not just for you, but this would be nice.. and one less thing to move around since it's already attached!
http://www.eztug.com/secondlevels/features.shtml
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Post by: RobynB on August 13, 2011, 04:43:42 PM
Show-Off.   :P   My pizza took me about 8 tries to get it on the peel, I stopped and added extra bench flour, finally I got it half on and supported the peel handle with my knee so I could use both hands to drag it the rest of the way on, then had to re-stretch it into a circle.  Unloading was worse  :-[   

I'm sure it's just practice and getting the feel for it.  I've watched other videos, but nothing replaces doing it a bazillion times and that's what I need to do.  Once it's IN the oven I felt pretty good, until I burned it 'cause I couldn't see in there...  Give me a few weeks and I'm sure I'll be much better.  It will also be easier once we get the room arranged better - right now I'm making the pizza on the kitchen counter, then carrying it on the peel (with the 5' handle) into the dining room dodging the dining table and the other furniture than has been dragged away from the wall...  We need to improve on that, soon.  Thanks for the video, John!
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Post by: JConk007 on August 13, 2011, 10:31:34 PM
Robyn Thanks but not showing off really.  I am seriously trying to help you out here,  and was wandering what part you were stuggling with. With my Outside oven I assemble the pizza on the marble slab and do the slide  onto the perf peel. Be agressive go for it! Quick deliberate motions its only dough. Try it with no toppings or sauce, just the skin to get the feel for the friction, then work up to Margherita then the crazy toppings. Load it on dump it back on counter and load it again. Practice yes. Hey Calzones are great leftovers too!  Make an extra 3 and practice the slip under. it does impress the guest too when they say "so how you gonna get that thing in there?"  whala
wont take a bazillion either but 100 or so and you will have it promise! dont forget the small stick on the fire before you launch Lights it up nice.

TMan thanks for the links I have seen the 1st at Harbor frieght I like the 2nd but like you say $$BIG$$ and say tongue weight Max 352 lbs I think I have more than that 1st one states 600 lbs max but tires seem small I found another at Ellkay producs That is 1000 lbs with 16" wheels gotta get Jet Deck to modify for me !  :-D
John
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Post by: doodneyy on August 14, 2011, 01:35:48 AM
What a ingenious Idea...
That being the imprinted circle of the size you want to stretch the dough...
Although, I am sure after throwing all those... you can do it blind folded....  ;)

Anyhow, very nice work.
Go baby go!

m.
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Post by: JConk007 on August 14, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
M.
Not sure where you are seeing the imprinted circle? table? peel?  I weigh the dough balls 255-260G and shape them to desired thickness and size, although I have seen wooden peels with a circle one it at some pizzerias who use it for size, but  I don't have a circle anywhere ???. Oh- I can look away but don't have the eyes closed thing down yet. Maybe someday after that Bazzilionth  one.
Thanks for looking
john
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Post by: RobynB on August 14, 2011, 06:26:46 PM
John, just kidding about the show-off!!  I was just teasing you.  You make it look so easy.  I have 13 dough balls in containers lined up on my counter right now, 4 different dough formulas, and a few friends on their way over for the first official pizza cooking.  So I'll get some practice today.  My prep counter is SS, should be good once I figure the movement out.  Another thing that will help is that I am having Dan cut down the length of the perforated launch peel handle as it is way too long for me to use effectively indoors, and I don't need that length in the 38" oven.  It'll end up about the same length as the brush handle, and I will be much happier.   
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Post by: doodneyy on August 17, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
I have lost what's left of my mind...
I thought it was photo img-20110728 but after looking at it again it looks like it is a Silpat
non-sticking folding mat or some other brand..
Sorry about that..
Keep the dough coming!

m.

M.
Not sure where you are seeing the imprinted circle? table? peel?  I weigh the dough balls 255-260G and shape them to desired thickness and size, although I have seen wooden peels with a circle one it at some pizzerias who use it for size, but  I don't have a circle anywhere ???. Oh- I can look away but don't have the eyes closed thing down yet. Maybe someday after that Bazzilionth  one.
Thanks for looking
john
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Post by: JConk007 on August 17, 2011, 12:38:23 PM
No problem yes thats a King Aurthur mat I use when weighing ( 260G)and balling. I thought you were looking at the pics of the prep table?. Not a bad Idea though, just scribe it into prep table  so the trainees know exactly what size the pie should be.
Oh while I am here a few more pics from the Beach Party this my my biggest yet and most fun!
Its amazing how happy you can look working when you are doing something you love!
thats asparagus and mushroom
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on August 17, 2011, 01:52:03 PM
Its amazing how happy you can look working when you are doing something you love!

John, you have life by the balls! (dough balls that is  :-D)

Craig
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: RobynB on August 17, 2011, 07:21:11 PM
Oooh that looks good!  I think that's the "prettiest" pizza I've seen in your pics, just perfect looking.  And yes, you do look happy  :D
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Post by: texmex on August 19, 2011, 10:32:03 AM
Love it!  Look at all those happy waiting faces.
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Post by: Tman1 on August 19, 2011, 05:40:12 PM
Hey, I'd really like to know more about that plastic (?) area you are using to stretch and load the pie.
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Post by: JConk007 on August 19, 2011, 05:53:55 PM
Terry ,
Are you speaking of the Solid Marble top on the Prep table?

Tex those people are happy yes  waiting no, they are all full ! white flag !
John
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Post by: Tman1 on August 19, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
I'm not sure how it happened, but i saw it in another video on a different post, yet I asked the question in this thread.  ???  You're videotaping you making a margherita, and there is something on top of the granite/marble that is sort of keeping all the flour contained (in a reasonable area)..... looked to be about 20" deep by about 2' wide, was white with a high back?
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Post by: JConk007 on August 19, 2011, 07:04:48 PM
Yes Heres the links   TMan
thats in the other video (JConk margherita thread )? http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,13846.0.html  That is also Marble slab(marble scap thread) http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,12507.0.html
 I found that at stone yard and had em cut a 2Ft sq  and built (10 minutes maybe) simple 3 sided sq area area with 1X4 finger jointed pine  what I had in the garage to work with spur of the moment.
John
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Post by: RobynB on August 19, 2011, 08:17:49 PM
Never mind, John answered it before I finished my post!
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on August 21, 2011, 03:04:35 PM
Another end of drive successfull PPP ! Pool Pizza Party  ;D
Hope your not all get sick of the party shots? I take pics anyway all phone cam for website,  portfolio...  Its fun to track the different events and my progress. The whole system is getting better and better. Prep set up ,cleanup. This was my neighbor around the block so I actually started the oven at my house . Just hooked it up (drove slowly) and was on-site fully set up and cooking within 1 hr! They were surprised to see a smokin oven being backed into the driveway  :-D Huge success and I think I signed up 3 more gigs from this one.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on August 21, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
I visited Amano last week and they were doing the VPN trianing there. I met Roberto from Keste! and spoke with him for a while I had the I -pad so showned him my ovens... he was actually interested in what I was doing, but  he said I probably should not take the course.Looked like I had it?  I was invited to just be a fly on the wall and see what I can pick up next session Ye ha!
Point is while there I watched very closley as they prepared the Nutella dessert pizza both pizza and roll.
Heres the deal You pop in a spread out skin as if you were making a pizza but nothing on it . It puffs up to a ball in about 60 second Very cool ! I will video this its wild . Then you slice it in 1/2 I spread nutella 1 side only then added banannas and mashmellows pieces (small) sprinkle a  little confectioner sugar place the top (otherhalph) on sprinkle again with Powedered sugar and pop in oven. The sugar crystalizes and give the dessert a really nice crunch. finish with another sprinkle of the sugar and a swirl of chocolate syrup ( oops I forgot to get that) .Regardless 1st time I wowed the guests with desert pizza I never saw such a fuss They went CRAZY for this! I could not make them fast enough !! It is officially added to my  menu (extra of course) that nutella is expensive) more the buffalo cheese! I also did a Marcsapone cheese and cherry  1st pic Very nice also but it didnt hold a candle to the Nutella
John
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Post by: scott123 on August 21, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
It looks like you're really getting into a nice groove, John.

Roberto's class, from the videos I've seen, looks pretty remedial and beyond your skill set, but I'm kind of surprised he didn't try to up sell you on some one-on-one training. That's fantastic that he's letting you sit on a class for free.  Please take plenty of pictures and tell us all about it :)

I have to admit, I'm not too fond of the dessert pizza concept. Savory bread + sweet stuff seems off to me. I know that the Nutella jar has a photo of it being spread on bread, but, that, to me, is more of a savory PB/J sandwich kind of thing, then a dessert. Max Brenner, a well known NYC chocolatier does a chocolate pizza, but it's with a cookie-ish crust.  If I ever did a dessert pizza myself, I'd probably do a special sweet dough. This all being said... with the caramelized sugar and the fillings you're working with, I'd probably devour a slice of it.

It's sounds like the dessert pizza is really working for you, but how about stretching the dough a little thinner and brushing the baked crust with melted butter?  A thinner stretch and some butter might bring it a little more into the pastry realm than the bread arena. Just an idea.
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Post by: RobynB on August 21, 2011, 06:14:24 PM
John, beautiful pizzas as always!!  Not a Nutella fan, but I will try the dessert one with chocolate and marshmallows and see if I can make it a s'more-type thing...

Scott, I was kind of with you on the savory crust thing, but the one I did last week, I brushed butter all over the crust to the edges and sprinkled them with cinnamon-sugar, so it caramelized on the outer crust, and I used enough butter-sugar-cinnamon in the middle that it puddled and so we could sop it up with pieces of the crust, and it was pretty darn yummy.  It was almost like a churro but much less sweet in a good way - changed my mind quickly  :D 
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Post by: JConk007 on August 21, 2011, 09:18:00 PM
Robyn, - Thanks as allways I may try a little bit of butter

Scott- It was Carlo Orlando who was there also that invited me to pop in, A partner  in Amano and I think 3rd generation Orlando food Distributor, hes a really great guy I have known for some time. Roberto works or rents from him for these classes?
 Honestly I am not a big fan either of the desert pizzas, but I am a fan of pleasing the  the client after all it is a business, so I make what they want. You mentioned earlier the  WFO is about the show/theatrical part also, so after 50 Margheritas Its nice to put something else out to WOW them.
It amazes me how many people do love Nutella? My 5.5yr old daughter included. Not sure how I could spread the crust any thinner? if you look hard at #177 and #174 you can see just how thin it is. Its blows up  and then you split it in half like 00 pita. The finished product is like a sandwich that holds it all together. They also do a calzone style with the same ingredients that looks awesome as well. I am finding the groove and finding there are many more hours that go into a party than one might think. I shutter at the thought of actually making "another dough or sweet bead" for a party. Also the  sweet bread would probably work nice flavor wise but is there a 900 degree recipe for such breads? Sugar and heat =?  These Pizzas ( I call it that only because it is pizza dough?) are  done with the same baking temperature. You have to get in, and get out to make it worth while. Not sure on this but I believe its also an authentic dish, dessert, whatever, in Italy? Is it?   2-3 hours of constant cooking is enough for me and what I agree to for any given party . To hang around anther few hours for oven to come to temp and make breads and fancier desserts would be a drag. of course an extra $500 bucks could change that  ;) but I am just a wanna be pizza guy not really a chef. Ok so I have done Betty Crocker Brownie ( with and without additives)  Again time is money. Its a passion still and goal is still to keep it fun  but after 10 or so events ( and remember this is just a part time gig for me) I am trying to get to the business part of it now. If I personally have 15 hrs + time into it (yes it takes that much! I have developed a consistent spreadsheet) when all is said and done and cleaned  ::). Then the question is should I just fix the house for 2 -days for say just 4 hours a day and save the money the carpenter/painter/pllumber charges me for those 2 days? That puts me break even $$ wise but up 8 hrs time right? And really I like doing that stuff too  ??? or used to.
Your  right! I choose the  :pizza:Pizza
Labor day is all booked up! please feel free to come help me scott, I could really use your talents! oh and theres allways plenty of cold beverage!
again I appreciate any and all ideas and feed back as I press on.
Thanks again!!

John

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Post by: norma427 on August 22, 2011, 05:09:12 AM
John,

I have enjoy your posts, about your adventure into mobile WFO pizzas!  :chef:

I think the appeal for Nutella pies baked in a WFO, deck oven, or even home oven are good.  Other people and I did enjoy two Nutellaís pies I made at these two posts.
I made a Nutella pie at Reply 813 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,9908.msg134137.html#msg134137
Using about the same methods as you did, but didnít include the banana and marshmallows inside.  I also posted about making a Símore pizza in Steveís WFO, at Reply 702 http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,12042.msg127525.html#msg127525

Thanks so much for watching very closely on how to make a Nutella dessert pizza.  ;D I will give that a go again.

Norma
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on August 22, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
Thanks Norma they look great  too! Like Scott says keep it thin. I found the trick to be the sprinkle then back into oven to caramelize (of course 900 degrees helps)out and the sprinkle and chocolate swirl. I will try the calzone  one next :P
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 06, 2011, 09:27:29 PM
2 Parties Sunday and Monday both promised rain and.... nothing  :angel: good clean livin I guess.
Sunday 40-50 people  , band  the whole 9! Monday 40 people about 20 kids- cheese please. (and nutella!) People are still in awe of the mobile oven and cant believe their eyes?  :o guess they aren't members here? Still here questions  like where is the gas ? OMG How did you do that so fast??... Comments are still very positive about the Idea/concept and the especially the product. Developing Pretty good system. I am  now set up in < 1 hr.,  and cooking in 1 1/2 hours after droppig the oven. There is a rhythm to everything I am working out the order of loading / unloading, handling the crowd .... and yes still having FUN ! ;D
Sorry Chau not a lot of product pics as its crazy at times, but I will try to remember next time.
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 06, 2011, 09:33:39 PM
and Monday  ... Backyards are fun but set up in the driveway goes so quick and easy, Very hard to move the oven prep tables on grass. so gotta land em close. It takes some ingenuity and a few good boards!Theres a spot for everything  you can belrey see the blue running water in back of oven, dough tray table left of prep table, cooler with extra goodies just below that ... driveways are great venue just a drop and go push it here and there and Start Flirting with Fire!  >:D Last shot is the skin for the nutella (volcano?) pies. The kids (and adults) were lined up again , for these even after the ice cream truck came by!made 8! and ran out of Nutella and yes ,  along with the extra RD boxes I bring for people for  delivery and leftovers (yes they were actually taking pies to friends and family) It added to the gratuity to make the kiddies ( and me) so happy ;)
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: TXCraig1 on September 07, 2011, 01:17:11 AM
John, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You have life by the balls.

Cheers!

CL
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Ev on September 07, 2011, 07:10:25 AM
Very cool, John! And very inspirational. The rusty old gears in my head are beginning to turn!
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Post by: thezaman on September 07, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
john.very nice!!! i have to diagram my set up for the health dept.i am going to use your set up for my drawings,hope you do not mind .  the only difference is i had to purchase a 4 compartment sink.found a nice one from a company called the peanut king. 1300.00. vs 4500.00 for a cambro.now i can hopefully get a mobil permit that will allow me to sell anywhere in ohio.
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Post by: Woodfiredovenpizzero on September 07, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
Very nice congratulations! That is totally a virgin market down here which I'm trying to develop. With the Piccolo I did an 18 people party. No complains and lots of compliments. It was just a free one just to gather inputs. I have the same comments like were is your pizzeria? When I say this is just a hobby the general comments are "well you should open your own shop". Maybe some day...
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 07, 2011, 10:37:19 PM
Yep I heard that as all of us home  Wood Fired Oven owners do for a long time, and most every party right? then I did a few demos and I was off to the races. Those were  the main  reasons I dove in and very glad I did,  all positive feedback and a passion to share the this true Neapolitan style of pizza with everyone ! . plus the fact I could keep my day job and see what developes oh yeah its paid for ,so as mentioned the open sign is lit when I feel the urge!
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: pabsey on September 11, 2011, 07:09:24 AM
hey John, I am doing a very similar gig up in Fargo ND. I currently run my rig up om car ramps to get it to a good height, I love your jacks, how do you gey them all cranked up to the same level? and do you have any problems with them. Appreciate any advice and looks like things are going great for you.
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Post by: Tman1 on September 11, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
Pabsey- I'm trying to better understand your question beyond the obvious 'I just turn the cranks'.

It sounds like you have an oven that sits much lower overall than John's given your statement of using car ramps. The jacks in John's use are only minimally (usually) lifting the trailer to level it out. There are some jacks that have an adjustable leg which could give more lift.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=adjustable+bulldog+jack&view=detail&id=31D9E8D71E9DD81AA86DD6D6B64D795E8FC8BAA5&first=150&FORM=IDFRIR
If you look at this link, you can see a pin in the lower portion of the jack that allows for faster deployment and multiple heights.

Maybe John will better understand your question, or you can expound upon it a bit more.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 11, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
No Problem as mentioned by Terry They are for leveling and I raise the oven up off the wheeels about 6"+ the get a comfortable working floor height. 1 Jack will lift whole oven and there is no twisting or lateral movement any where on the trailer.  and it happen when I had a helper, and we were done I said OK crank it down. left for a second came back and the oven was teetering on 1 leg !! with no problem! I was not too thrilled!! >:( its just common sense you crank either up or down a small bit at a time and work your way around the oven. If there are 2 of us we do 1 side at a time. No drop out on bottom but if these jack every need replacing I will go with the drop down bottom , then lock /pin and crank up.
Do you have any pics of the car jack setup?
john
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Post by: rumper on September 12, 2011, 09:17:50 PM
I have just started a similar business in Australia with Saturday being my first event.  It was a festival with quite a few people, by the end of the night I had sold about 100 pizzas and enjoyed it thoroughly.  In the lead up to Saturday I have found inspiration following your posts.  My only problem was I was too slow and people were waiting up to 45mins which is way too long, do you have any suggestions?  I ahd someone helping shape the doughs and another slicing and taking orders while I did all the toppings and cooking.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 12, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
HI, glad to be an inspiration! You make no mention of your current set Oven type size ... or what type of dough and technique you are using to spread the dough ,so its hard for me to comment. What was your average cook time? How quickly do you spread a dough? do you use the  slap stretch?  I am also stilll doing all the making and spreading and topping of every pizza, and would say 50-60 pies in around  2 hours with 1 helper on oven, is about all I am good for going flat out. I am sure many could do alot more. But I am comfortable here. I just booked my biggest party to date on sept 30th for 100+ people at a local winery. Plan is  have total of 4 peolple working , 2 people making/ spreading, 1 on the oven and 1 serving tidying up. shooting for 100 pies in 2 1/2 to 3 hrs cooking time. Gonna be a hoot for sure the setting  is beautiful! and wine and pizza (and was told a few cigars too) man does it get any better?
John
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Post by: rumper on September 12, 2011, 11:57:14 PM
I have a large oven 41in x 50in.  At the moment I am still rolling by hand but trying to master stretch so I can ditch the rolling pin.  Pies were cooking in around 3-4 mins which I was happy with.  I think my slowness came from my spreading and topping.  My dough is made fresh the day before flour,salt water sugar yeast.  Have fun at the winery I am cooking again on Sunday for another festival but I hope this time will be a little less intense.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 13, 2011, 08:27:03 AM
Unless thats the style of pizza you are shooting for. Yes you need to ditch the rolling pin That poor dough  :'(  so how long to strectch a dough to the point of being ready for topping? What is your hydration level ? and What temps are you cooking at? this is not a WFO correct? I assume lower temps based on the fact that you have sugar as an ingredient?  Just keep experimenting and keep it fun! you ca nsend me a PM and I will gladly help you out.
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on September 13, 2011, 10:35:15 AM
wine and pizza (and was told a few cigars too) man does it get any better?

Nope. That is my ideal Saturday afternoon. The only thing that might make it better is a good hunt in the morning.

CL
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Adam T on September 15, 2011, 08:41:46 AM
Fantastic John! You have a great mobile set up and it looks like you are making really great pizza! This thread was fun to read.

Keep up the good work!
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Post by: Pete-zza on September 15, 2011, 09:18:50 AM
John,

You seem like one really busy guy, like the Energizer bunny. How do you manage a full-time job and your pizza gigs and family duties and still stand up? I get tired just watching you.

Peter
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 16, 2011, 10:46:14 AM
Peter,
sorry for taking so long to respond been a little busy  :-D and who needs more than 5-6 hours of sleep anyway, Its  kind of unproductive time
Yes, but the days go fast! I am blessed with my sales job to work from home. When I am out with customers or visiting jobsites I am able to stop and do my shopping and sometimes even make dough at Vesta. In order to fulfill the family time I do spend a lot of off hours 8-12 pm completing my various paperwork.(and posting here) luckily I like both jobs so that definitely helps. If I had a choice I would do the pizza full time but as mentioned its hard to replace a good salary and great benefits slinging pies on the weekends. For anyone wondering yes it can be very very profitable its a bout finding the right gigs.  I think a brick and mortar store even small non - neo pizzeria would be a tremendous benefit (a must) with the health depts. storage of supplies ,doughs ... If I went big doing a 48" oven for festivals, street fairs and the smaller for private catering and did like JayJ  and work 2 ovens and 2 crews  3-4 days a week,I believe it would be very profitable! But that sounds like work.  ???
NAH, happy with my little niche for now, spreading the Love and Passion for true Neapolitan pizza that most good fol  just don't get a chance to try. makes me wonder are there any VPN certified Mobiles?
Thanks
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: fcbuilder on September 16, 2011, 07:06:58 PM
Peter,
sorry for taking so long to respond been a little busy  :-D and who needs more than 5-6 hours of sleep anyway, Its  kind of unproductive time
Yes, but the days go fast! I am blessed with my sales job to work from home. When I am out with customers or visiting jobsites I am able to stop and do my shopping and sometimes even make dough at Vesta. In order to fulfill the family time I do spend a lot of off hours 8-12 pm completing my various paperwork.(and posting here) luckily I like both jobs so that definitely helps. If I had a choice I would do the pizza full time but as mentioned its hard to replace a good salary and great benefits slinging pies on the weekends. For anyone wondering yes it can be very very profitable its a bout finding the right gigs.  I think a brick and mortar store even small non - neo pizzeria would be a tremendous benefit (a must) with the health depts. storage of supplies ,doughs ... If I went big doing a 48" oven for festivals, street fairs and the smaller for private catering and did like JayJ  and work 2 ovens and 2 crews  3-4 days a week,I believe it would be very profitable! But that sounds like work.  ???
NAH, happy with my little niche for now, spreading the Love and Passion for true Neapolitan pizza that most good fol  just don't get a chance to try. makes me wonder are there any VPN certified Mobiles?
Thanks
John
hey john looks like your having a blast, congrats!! Where did you get the oil cans from?I believe there is a mobile vpn oven in the pacific north west either in Washington or Oregon sorry forgot the name.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 16, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Thanks The Cans are from Italy. and  yes its a blast. There are several mobile operators out in the great northwest a list is availablr on the forno bravo  site under the mobile oven section. But no one here yet I have a feeling its gonna explode soon! at least 1 or 2 more I know of on the way  >:(
John
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Post by: JConk007 on October 02, 2011, 09:58:20 PM
You are Probably all sick of catering pics and I promise to lay off. But this has really been a fun summer for me and a great learning experience. This one was quite possibly my most favorite Party/location yet ! It was A winery grand opening/fundraiser. This is what I am striving for, High Class Gourmet Catering at beautiful locations. Beyond the Pepperoni and sausage these people enjoyed the Pesto, Arugala honey, goat cheese, sundried tomatoes, prosciutto , asparagus...
This place was so cool I gotta put up some pics. Called Torne Valley Winery,  Its a 1827 Victorian set at the base of the Ramapo Mountains and flanked by the Ramapo River Stunning this Grand home has been a project for 4 years and 1500 vines have been planting. Currently they are making wine but bringing in grapes for NY, chili, California ... they are doing weddings, fundraisers... and I am in! perfect together. and its only 15 min from my driveway!! By the way this connection came from doing one of those Big Guy Barrel oven demos. heres the gig ! The set up is a Large brick Paver pation with a bump out for the oven !! They had a 3 piece jazz band going to boot ! You can see the Happy People, hovering around the oven, the vines in the backdrop, and the Rampo river just down the slope  in the background. gorgeous!
Oven performed great and no waiting for pizza the go to 62% Caputo rocks again! alot of very positive comments and feed back there were even a few restaurateurs there who were amazed. Several big wig Event coordinators and party planners were there for the opening to check out the space and They cleaned out the cards ! so hey you never know what any event will bring, a great night !!
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Post by: JConk007 on October 02, 2011, 10:07:39 PM
The roomy paver patio and there is also a wonderful front porch which I forgot to take pics of  :(b pizzas also sorry . Oh yeah the new serving plates were a hit too!
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Post by: TXCraig1 on October 02, 2011, 11:14:15 PM
Sweet gig there brother. Won't take many of those to make a name for yourself! Glad to see things going so well for you and your business.

CL
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Post by: scott123 on October 03, 2011, 03:56:32 AM
That's an impressive looking event, John.  Like Craig, I'm also very pleased to see you doing so well.

It's a really small thing, but, for high end events such as these, perhaps you can coordinate with whoever is planning the party and match the color of their tablecloths? I like your tablecloths, but in this kind of high end setting, they stand out a bit.
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Post by: norma427 on October 03, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
John,

I agree that is a beautiful looking place to make your pizzas.  :) I never get tired of seeing what you have accomplished.  I am also glad to see you are doing so well.

Norma
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Post by: wheelman on October 03, 2011, 09:11:42 AM
looks great John!  it's cool that you're comfortable with such a large crowd - and no room for excuses at that kind of event..  Well done. 
bill
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Post by: PizzaPolice on October 03, 2011, 10:14:01 AM
Yeah!  Keep 'em coming.  People take pictures of my rig but rarely do I get to see them.  While you are busy banging out the pizzas and thinking you are the absolute s#!$, a picture gives you a perspective that affords you a fresh and objective look at what your set up is saying. 
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Post by: JConk007 on October 03, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Thank you all for the nice comments. Yes it is really going well!  I post here because I learned it all here! Not the business part the pizza part for sure ! Which is what this is all about. All the thoughts and ideas and comments  from you all helps with the confidence to take on such a adventure.  Scott, great point on the table clothes get with event coordinator in the future for all those little important things. There are those few moments of anxiety that occur just prior to a large party but Once you start to put a few pies out you go into that happy pizza place  ;D
Sidebar-
A note on the oven. You cant really see it, but the oven fits right on the bump out. I Could have made another side facing oven work but I am  thrilled with this little dynamo.  I am working with Peter Dejong tomorrow at a cooking seminar/show. I am Supplying myself and my oven for a group of professional chefs  He has informed me his apple orchard gig did 800 pies this weekend!!
He is doing this with  a 36 " model 90 oven and 4 people. So it's not all about the size, and this proves you really don't need a monster oven to make it work. (and some good $money$!)
Thanks again
John
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Post by: thezaman on October 03, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
 jonn, please keep the pictures coming!! what a great event, i can see you getting a lot of business from it. do you have metal extenders to put over your refrigerated rail. it will hold your 1/3 1/6 1/9 pans without any cold air loss. you unit will not have to work as hard.
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Post by: JConk007 on October 04, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Hey you asked for it  so heres the next event today
Pizza and Beyond. Today was so much fun we did dueling ovens 1 hot for pizza and searing and the other for roasting, to accomplish this 6 course meal. I learned a bit more about the capabilities of these great portable ovens. We fed professional chefs! This stop was part of the Club Chefs of Farm tour. These 20 executive chefs (yes I was nervous)  all work at some country club, yacht club beach club... you get it Club Chefs, for the people with disposable income clubs  ;). All were really cool guys who showed a great interest in the ovens and my offering for their club parities ! lots of cards exchanged hands. Think its gonna be good!
So this event/ farm tour is to get the local chefs familiar with the owners and offerings of the local farms . The first pic is of Ambas Farm In Bedford Hills NY. (you can see my oven over in the driveway) Not exactly how I remember farms ?? but hey remember the first computer??
1st course cheese  then
2nd a crustini salad w fresh fish
3rd the pizza Marghertia and a few others
4th Striped Bass with mixed greens (outrageous)
5th Lamb with Mixed Potatoes (Unbelievable)
6th Desert pizza  Figs, apples,Gorgonzola, honey truffle, arugula (yep kinda Yummy!!)

great day I just  love this @#$!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on October 04, 2011, 10:38:35 PM
And yes some serious food!! All prepared in the 2 ovens. The dough is 100% caputo @65% but never made it to room temp. Peter the gentleman and famous chef himself,  built both ovens has the dough made at a local rest. where they use a large Hobart 60 or 80 qt. I could feel a noticable difference after handling so many of my doughs and you can see it in the crusts. Less crumb and open cornicione but still a great pizza. It was a blast
john  :chef:
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Post by: Jackie Tran on October 04, 2011, 10:43:43 PM
Congrats on all your success John!  It's a lot of fun for us to see your pictures and progress.  Keep up the good work. 

Chau
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Post by: Jet_deck on October 04, 2011, 11:29:34 PM
The food looks outragiously terrific.  I can't imagine how much fun it must be.  Thanks for the update, I always enjoy pictures of your gigs. :chef:
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Post by: Tman1 on October 05, 2011, 09:23:54 AM
I'm just wondering what percentage's your using?  I've found the yeast at the restaurant/bakery to be more potent, so I've already gone done to 0.75-1% when using it.  I know you mentioned at some point that you do a 2-day ferment, so I'm just curious what you do.  The bakery is really busy right now with apple orchard stuff, so I'm trying to stay out of the way as much as possible.  A 2 day ferment would allow me to make dough on Thursday, which is a slightly slower day for them.

I guess I should add me method.
100% of the water, about 75-80% of the flour.. slight mix to incorporate and let autolyse for at least 30 minutes. Add the rest of the flour, yeast and salt, and let it mix for about 7-10 minutes. Bulk rise at least overnight in the fridge, then divide & re-ball (usually in the morning), back into the fridge... take out a couple hours prior to use.

Thanks.
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Post by: JConk007 on October 05, 2011, 12:44:01 PM
Chau - Thanks!! I dont want anyone to be tired of the gig pics, but we see enough pizza on here to last a good long time. Thats what the forums here for. I learned more by site than anything and how I learned to produce a decent (my opinion only) Neapolitan style Pizza. so I encourage everyone to post pics often top and bottom, and anything inbetween ;D

JD- the food was amazing the fish had a citrus marinade that was crazy good! and the lamb was to die for! not a little chop either  4 huge pieces like tenderloin.

TM- I use about .2% IDY not sure what yeast was in this dough but not the same texture or finish  as mine for sure. Why cant you just bring the IDY  and ask em to use it? its come a long way now and I find it so consistent, +  a whole bag of SAF is $2.78! enough for MEGA pies! The 2 days is more about flavor and texture I really prefer it over 12-24 hrs total. My opinion only, is its a better dough all around after 2 days. Scott does similar but takes it our 3-4 day with amazing results
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Post by: TXCraig1 on October 05, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You've got life by the balls, John. Cheers!
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Post by: Tman1 on October 05, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
I don't have to use their yeast, but it does seem easier since they have plenty of it. I figured if I ran out sometime, I'd be using it somewhere down the line, so I thought I should just embrace it.  I asked them to order me up some pizzeria flour (they are supplying/paying for ingredients), and today found a bag of Tipo 00 sitting there waiting for me.   ;D    I guess I'm going to find out what 00 can do.... never used it before. They told me Friday is okay for making the dough, but maybe I'll still bring it back a little on yeast. If I lower it, I should probably allow for more time out of the fridge to get up to snuff?  (We haven't had rain in weeks (not as bad as Texas, Iknow), but this Saturday's forecast has a 30% chance...  :(
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Post by: Ev on October 07, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
John, That's just outrageously, excellently awesome!  :chef:
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Post by: Matthew on October 07, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
Way to go Johnny boy!

Matt


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Post by: thezaman on October 07, 2011, 09:29:30 PM
 john, what a wonderful event. please do not stop your pictures or your event details.I'm sure this group would be very disappointed. i know i would be.this last event must have been exciting and working with peter you learned a lot. keep the reports coming.
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Post by: JConk007 on October 07, 2011, 10:33:49 PM
EV- thanks when are you going to come help out ???
Matt - thanks as allways comments mean a lot and your new venture is giving me hope as well
Larry - ok I will keep posting  yes the event was a ton of fun! and all about what these oven can do beside pizza , and yes I did learn a bit love to learn! Its also nice to have comments from the professional chefs that they really loved the pizza as well. sStill not sure what the comment on the rail extenders less work was about (reply #117) there is a cover on the table that I put down? maybe you can clarify? Hows your event schedule looking?
ok so 1st semi street fair this week columbus day weekend Sunday 12-8 whew! and at the same time yeah ha lets do it! oh, and I had a request already for a company christmas party ! hey why not ?
Thanks everyone
John
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Post by: Ev on October 07, 2011, 11:20:16 PM
John,  I'd love to, but you gotta let me know before the event, not after.  :-D
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Post by: thezaman on October 08, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
 john sorry i didn't explain the bar adapters better. you can put adapter bars in your rail opening that will hold all of you toppings at the the top of the opening.  your ingredients will stay cold and the system will not have to work as hard.example of the rails http://www.restaurantsource.com/update-international--flatware/kitchen-utensils/adapter-bars/ProdDesc-AB-20N-36804.aspx
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Post by: JConk007 on October 08, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
I have them inside, you are speaking of all the way on top of the unit will then need differnt pans as well no?only have to reach in about 5 inches?
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Post by: thezaman on October 08, 2011, 07:58:48 PM
 john, i am going to send you few. you are the GI king. you need theses!!!
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Post by: thezaman on October 08, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
 a picture will clarify.
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Post by: JConk007 on October 08, 2011, 09:15:10 PM
OK think I see what you mean now storage trays come up to top, but you can see its not all that bad of a reach in? I measured and its only like 13 1/2 " opening at top of unit and only like 2-3" down front and back
thanks Larry
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Post by: Woodfiredovenpizzero on October 09, 2011, 09:06:40 PM
Very Nice. Congrats John. I like to be able to do something like that but my dayjob takes too much time from me. Meanwhile I just do family events in AOP (www.arecibooceanfrontparadise.com) in a regular oven. However the owner of the place is looking to install a WFO or something of that sort. Here some pictures of the last event... A special slice for this little guy. The face is worthed a million words.
 
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Post by: JConk007 on October 10, 2011, 10:20:42 PM
Hello Again! It was a Columbus day street festival !smaller scale than the crazy big ones so a good trail It was in East Rutherford (home town to Vesta pizzeria ) so he helped me out and he got some great exposure as well A great setting right in front of band stand. (big white stage in Background) A great Italian band blasting the classics an a beautiful day made for a really great setting. We had 3 helpers for this event and did about 160 pizzas from 12:30 to 7:00 pm you can see a few trays by the prep station it was Margheritas only nothin fancy
1st one of this type and hard work 12 hr leave home to back home. you can see in the first few pics How I Was able to get my baby up on the curb using a ramp crank up the levelers remove the tongue and meet the strict 10 ft out from curb rule ! This would have been Impossible with any side mount or larger trailer so again bigger is not allways better did 3 at a time with experienced help on the stick. I also passed all HD /fire inspections.  ;D
John
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Post by: JConk007 on October 10, 2011, 10:28:43 PM
Here we are rockin and rolling  ;D few people milling about The NY Giants were in town and this was day 2 of festival so I was told slower than Saturday ? Next year?? Would I do it again ? YES! and also gonna find a Nice Pumkin Patch / orchard to camp out in for October. My real frinds showed up on stage also! I go away next week so its just about a wrap for the year guys. :'(
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Post by: Jet_deck on October 11, 2011, 12:51:45 AM
Looks great John.  Take a break, you deserve it.  But don't stop posting pictures!
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Post by: JConk007 on October 11, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
week off next week ! vacation ! yea ha. go eat pizza prepared by someone else on Hilton Head Island
there is a good WFO place there but no Neapolitan anywhere close ?? hmm ??? ???
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Post by: Ev on October 12, 2011, 07:32:45 AM
You are like a superhero to me! Does it ever rain on your gigs? :-D
Enjoy your vacation!
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Post by: JConk007 on October 12, 2011, 07:58:17 AM
I have a good connection   :angel: Come to think of it only 2 event raining lightly when I got there it stopped. Very lucky so far. sure I will get burned sooner or later by high Hydradtion  :-D
John
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Post by: Ev on October 12, 2011, 08:02:48 AM
Well, I wish you continued good luck in that aspect.
Ya know, I could use a friend who makes it stop raining wherever he goes!  :-D
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Post by: apizza on November 23, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
I can't tell you how much I have enjoyed your adventures. If I was a young man, it's something I would love to try. I do have a question, since you are located in the colder parts of the US. What do you do in the " off season"?  I guess what I am asking is if there are any events you can cover when it gets colder? Maybe it's  time to tweak, if necessary, and rest.
Just curious, Marty
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Post by: JConk007 on November 24, 2011, 09:31:52 PM
Marty ,
Thanks for the kind words ! Only thing is whos the young man? I am fast approaching the half century mark! anyway yes it was a fun summer! Not much going on in the northern winter months. May have a request for a christmas party but depends on weather.also found a few hoiliday fairs markets I can do next year.  I am planning to go a bit bigger next year. With the exception of balling I found its just as much work to do 50 dough balls as it is 150. I now have a commercial fridge so btween that and the prep table I shoul d be good for 250 + dough balls for street fairs ... we will see. I will continue to tweak yes and research I also have been resaerching a fork mixer which will allow me to save some time back and forth with the dough. I missed my earthstone so sunday at nearly 65 degrees+ I fired up and cooked some neo neopolitan with the oven in the low 700'S pics below

Thank you all again for the positive comments through out the year, and I am  glad many others have thought about or actually taken the steps to go Mobile. I wish them the best.  I have a ways to go yet , and my goal is to put out some of those Garage pies like Craig or the P-70'S  like John D . I gotta just keep on trying.
Gobble gobble   ;)
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Post by: PizzaHog on November 25, 2011, 11:32:59 AM
Wow John, having so much going on I totally missed this while it was happening! 
Too cool to say the least.  Pies, oven and setup look top of the line and indeed you look like a happy camper.
Another pizzamakingdotcomer goes pro!
Way to go Chef John!
Hog
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Post by: JConk007 on November 26, 2011, 01:51:25 PM
Thanks Hog !
ReallyI thinks its just semi pro ? but having fun trying. Hope 2012 will be even better.
John
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Post by: JConk007 on December 23, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
ITS A GIRL!!  :-* At least I think so? sleek and sexy, shiny an new! Very exciting too!
Yes I am speaking of my new Mecnosud Fork Mixer She has arrived home after some wheeling and dealing and teaming up with the zaman larry (who also took ownership of one of these beauties) I picked her up at the warehouse and gently lifter her from the truck bed with my friends fork lift ( flashbacks Craig?) It weighed in at 375 pounds including the custom metal pallet. Its an FC35M model and perfect for what I need. Not as pricey and easier to get than the Pietro Berto but a well built machine for sure! I just need an Stephano  in the Garage but who would be crazy enough to do that right?. As mentioned many times, Frank at Vesta was more than gracious allowing me to mix all my dough last year with his diving arm mixer. Going to be very hard to beat that Machine and dough quality. However- time is money and schlepping 30 min each way sometimes waiting for the mixer to become available.... 2-3 hours total to make at times only 60 dough balls was eating me up. So after months of research I ended up with what I think is a BEAUTIFUL Machine. Its single phase electric for USA . Aside from a different plug, all I needed was a standard 220V outlet with 20 amp breaker which I had in place already. I Must admit, I was a bit nervous "cutting the cord" to replace the European plug, but was simple, and I am up and running!  ;D The forecast is for good weather and Fire  >:D so I Immediately made a batch of dough today. I was so worried about how it would work with smaller batches. Did 8500 G flour and 5275 G water for my test run. Mixer performed  Beautiful!! Max is said to be 23kg dry flour which I think would be pushing it? Jay J, at IL Cane Rosso also runs this identical mixer stated it was abit small for him now, He was very helpful in my decision Thanks Jay! I will post a few videos and pics later on. for now welcome Jessabell (sounds Italian right?)
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Post by: norma427 on December 23, 2011, 10:52:03 PM
Welcome to the forum Jessabell!  ;D John, she sure is a beauty!  Congrats on purchasing your gem.

Norma
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Post by: apizza on December 24, 2011, 09:42:12 AM
I'll bet Santa was glad to get the sleigh 375 lbs lighter.  ;D
Nice purchase.
Marty
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Post by: Jet_deck on December 24, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
She looks great John. I can't wait to see the video. :D
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Post by: TXCraig1 on December 24, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
Welcome to the family Jess. I'm sure you will be loved.

CL
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Post by: thezaman on December 24, 2011, 11:01:35 AM
 john,how does your wife like her Christmas present. :chef:
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on December 24, 2011, 11:06:50 AM
Nice mixer John, good decision on the 35kg. Any chance we can get a video of it in action? ;D
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Post by: thezaman on December 24, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
john,  you feel that 35 kg.of flour will stress the machine?? you did 8500 yes? which is about 50 balls. do you think it can handle a 100 ball batch??
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Post by: Matthew on December 24, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
john,  you feel that 35 kg.of flour will stress the machine?? you did 8500 yes? which is about 50 balls. do you think it can handle a 100 ball batch??

Larry,
It will do 100 with ease, I do 125-130 in the Piertoberto 35.
Merry Christmas.

Matt
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Post by: JConk007 on December 24, 2011, 02:41:29 PM
Larry,
35kg  is the total batch amount. Very strong machine. Think everything would be allover before you would strain this bad boy! I will put up a video asap. Mom thinks I have lost my mind of course. But been around long enough she does understand my passion.
Spec says 23 kg dry flour max. Jay has said that he does 16 kg dry flour batches so that should be I the 90 - 100 ball range no problem.
Dough is looking really nice right now after 12 hrs. @ 50 degrees  12 hr. @ room rise baking at 5:30 pm have 50 dough balls , anyone want a pizza!
John And Jess
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Post by: JConk007 on January 02, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Another addition to the Garage  ;D
So I have this killer mixer now,and an ability to whip up 100+ dough balls with ease. With that said, and that fact I would like to do a few bigger events, I needed storage.  I have been looking for months for a fridge that would hold a full size dough box, and became interested in The Artctic air 22 CF after being Patient and not wanting to spend $1300+ on a new one. I waited and watched quite a few go by, and bingo I found one less than 1 year old  in Wysox PA a 3 hr drive for me but worked out fine (very cheap)  over the holidays. cleanned her up and shes in mint condition.
Here she is " Franny" the Commercial fridge. Jess is thrilled with her new sister too!  I am thinking this will easily hold 12 trays (144 dough balls) + all the sauces and many other ingredients on top. So with this space  and the prep table 100+ balls if I squeeze in a few artisan trays. I am hoping  to do 250 balls for a street fair or something. I think thats all I want to push out in 1 day anyway. The other plus is I can make like 120-30 balls in the mixer and do back to back smaller parties 50-60 pies with ease.
John
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Post by: scott123 on January 02, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
That's really nice, John.  I measured my home refrigerator for tray worthiness last year- it's about a quarter inch too short.

I'm sure you're aware of this, but just in case you're not, those trays can be very insulating.  That's why most pizzeria operators cross stack them during the first part of the chilling phase. With your fork mixer producing a much cooler dough, you may not need cross stacking, but, if you can, try not to stack them 12 high, and, rather, use the shelves to stack bunches of 3 or 4, with some air around them.

Another thing to consider is that, when you add a lot of food to refrigerators, they take a much longer time to chill it, so a 144 ball batch is going to take longer to chill and thus ferment faster than a 60 ball batch. One of the really nice things about pizzeria 00 flour, as you've seen, is that, without the enzymes from the malt, you get a nice long useability window, so I don't think this will mess with you much, but it's something to be aware of.
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Post by: JConk007 on January 02, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
Thanks Scott,
Yes, I am going to do the 3 or 4 trays and then shelf some room and 3 -4 more then shelf room. Boxes fit nicely in here with little  side room as well. They also have a shelf set up on the bottom also to keep whatever 1 1/2" off bottom/floor to  improve air circ. as well. Nice unit. I found several on craigs list but bulky and wasted alot of space with freezer which I dont need. She is a perfect fit in the spot I had and nice and quiet and just a  $76 a year to run.
J
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Post by: thezaman on January 02, 2012, 04:43:30 PM
 john,looks like your garage will be another Neapolitan pizza destination. you even have your own mixer. why don't you buy some reclaimed wood and build tables and chairs.we will discuss this concept Thursday night, Craig can give you some pointers. :-D
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Post by: thezaman on January 02, 2012, 04:51:57 PM
john if you want to max dough life cross stack boxes or leave area for air flow while the dough cools off .if you cover right away you will get a lot of dough rise until the inside of the box cools to temperature
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Post by: JConk007 on January 02, 2012, 05:09:44 PM
 Yes found some tbles on Craigs list ! Chances are I will be doing the bulk fermentation I never ball right out of the mixer.  Do I  Still cross stack after fridge or  room temp bulk  ?   
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Post by: thezaman on January 02, 2012, 05:16:24 PM
when you ball your dough and put it in the cooler. i leave it uncovered a few minutes ,the interior of the dough box will cool quicker. it will rise slower in ball form giving you better shelf life.
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Post by: scott123 on January 02, 2012, 05:28:30 PM
Neapolitan rarely, if ever, sees a refrigerator during a typical fermentation, and the fork mixers used in Italy don't drive up the temp of the dough where it needs to be cooled, so traditionally, Neapolitan dough doesn't need the circulating air to help the dough chill because the dough isn't being chilled. Even on the NY side, cross stacking is more of a walk-in thing- you have to have a cold area that's big enough to accommodate cross stacked boxes. You might find places with extraordinarily warm dough or extraordinarily cool room temps that are room temp cross stacking, but I think, for the majority, the cross stacked boxes go in a walk in.

John, I don't think it's something you really need to worry about.  In your 3-4 box stack, I might pay attention to the boxes sandwiched in the middle and see if the dough is fermenting any differently than the outer ones. You could also, if you wanted to, play around with some sort of wedges to act as a cross stacking equivalent in the fridge space you have.  Like I said, though, I don't think stacking them straight from the bulk is going to be an issue- and that's from a room temp bulk. If it's a refrigerated bulk, then this is a non issue completely, since you won't need to accelerate chilling at all- assuming of course, you can comfortably ball the chilled/relatively chilled dough.
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Post by: thezaman on January 02, 2012, 07:37:55 PM
 scott, when i am making dough my kitchen is 85 degrees. after i put the dough in the boxes and cover the internal temperature is in the 80's so if you do not allow air to circulate it may take an hour for the inside to cool to 30 plus degrees.it makes a difference if you are trying to save your dough for a few days.like you said he could lift the trays above each other not cross stacking since he has no room.
 when i take my oven out during the summer months.i cross stack, refrigerate my cambros,and use freezer inserts to keep my dough cold john has a prep table that will hold his dough, but he is still transporting to the location and the colder the better.
 the other factor is johns new dough machine can put out some nice quantities if he can manage his dough he can make less runs.
 
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Post by: capamando on January 07, 2012, 09:01:54 AM
John,

Oh my God!... I can't say in this forum what my body feels looking at your new equipment  :-* That is a thing of beauty. Following your progress has been a tremendous help as my wife and I get closer to having our own mbwfo. My trailer as you already know is being built in Maine. It is a Mugnaini prototype with some modifications such as using torflex axles, no diamond plates etc.. I have a choice of the adding two more feet to the trailer for storage mainly but I am concern with the maneuverability of an 8ft vs 6ft. What do you think? The oven is still on the design stage. It will be a one piece shell 42" floor and is being built by the same gentleman that built the one for The Uproot Pie Co. He is an sculptor/welder/carpenter. Does not have the experience of the Mugnaini people but he is an artist at heart that will put his soul and expertise into the project. One piece of equipment that you have not mentioned is a blow poke...a lot of people love it... it helps boost your fire like a bellow would. Okay, got to make the dough...practice and learn as much as we can while we wait for the "engine" to come.

Have a nice weekend
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Post by: JConk007 on January 27, 2012, 08:03:08 PM
Somebody stop me  ;D
I blame this one on Larry the Za Man! When we visited Paulie Gees I commented on How I liked the sopressatta and wished I could find this product, and how I would like to add this to my pizza menu. Larry recommended a few that can be bought. But how can I make them so nice and thin and uniform. Larry's response was well "you'll just have to get a slicer" dang him!! my wheels started turning?  Pancetta, Prosciuto, Salami, pepperoni. Local meat suppliers goodness, Rest Depot bulk, anyway DONE! After shopping around for a month and doing some research I ended up with a beautiful (Italian of course) 10" slicer. This baby is in perfect condition Has a built in sharpener and slices paper thin  My first few cuts were on the Vermont Smoked Pepperoni recommended by John Dellavechia and boy m I glad he did!! Thanks JOHN! this stuff rocks!! I spoke with the owner and arranged a wholesale shipment to me for my mobile bus.  24 sticks! who wants some ?
oh here is Jessebells sister Sally the slicer
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Post by: scott123 on January 27, 2012, 09:37:50 PM
John, not being much of a Neapolitan guy, I wasn't too terribly envious of the fork mixer, but that slicer... oh baby, that is a work of art.  I have wanted a good slicer for decades.
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Post by: JConk007 on January 27, 2012, 09:59:09 PM
Experience has told me if you really want something, look very hard for it, and put a value on it. Whats its worth to you? Then  ask yourself is is this a need or a want? If your like me, its a want turned around  into a need  :-D  Then the hard part, be patient, I made a lot of offers and was turned down, these babies are heavy so shipping is killer too. As soon as I said I will just get one later this came up. You wont believe what I paid for this thing. I dont believe it!  very very reasonable, Happy to have it and excited to see what Kind of local quality butcher goodies I can to add to my pizzas,  beyond passion!
John
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Post by: capamando on January 27, 2012, 10:02:20 PM
John,

You are one helluva of a entertainer!... and a mad scientist.....  enjoy your new toy  ;D.  Keep your fingers out of the way.

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Post by: scott123 on January 27, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
John, I can't justify a need for this in any way, but, man oh man, do I want one  ;D Just off the top of my head, here's what I'd do with a slicer:

Jerky
Italian Beef sandwich
Sukiyaki
Pho
Sliced Roast Beef
Slice my own corned beef
Slice less expensive mozzarella for Sicilian
Homemade bacon

Just the thought of having pepperoni slices exactly the thickness I want is making me giddy  ;D

It really boils down to the money for me.  I've seen all the $100-$200ish garbage stuff on Amazon but really can't justify spending more than a couple hundred bucks on something I don't really need.
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Post by: Phar Lap on January 27, 2012, 10:43:21 PM
Scott,

Pho...wow...I love authentic Vietnamese Pho!  Do you have a recipe...I have never attempted it myself?

Thanks...Adam
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Post by: JConk007 on January 28, 2012, 12:20:37 AM
You are warm Scott  ;D
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Post by: CJ on January 28, 2012, 02:22:43 AM
John, great info. Looking forward to more action.
Cj
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Post by: Matthew on January 28, 2012, 03:01:16 AM
I picked this Berkel up just before Christmas.  You may have to cut the prosciutto in half; buy the smallest one that you can find.

Matt
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Post by: thezaman on January 28, 2012, 05:55:25 AM
 john, nice slicer now you need to learn how to make you own meats to make that slicer useful. you need to get a book on charcuterie so you can make your pepperoni in house.love my new mixer. big difference in my dough
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Post by: dellavecchia on January 28, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
John - I am officially in search of a slicer now (thanks a lot). What is the manufacturer? I see the distributor and I think they are Weston, but I can't figure it out.

John
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Post by: capamando on January 28, 2012, 12:37:01 PM
Hey guys,

Could this be the poor man's version of a super duper Italian slicer?   My wife bought this professional grade mandolin for $25, it sells for about $100 about a year ago and at the time I thought ....why?  well...maybe I can slice those smoked pepperonis from Vermont! We will definitely be able to use it at the farmer's market when we buy veggies, etc. from the locals.
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Post by: JConk007 on January 28, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
@John D pragotrade is the distibutor right? So you can blame the za man too!
Man that pepperoni is good!
@zaman, Larry you are killin me !  ok I will make my own meats, sausage,ham...just have to get a few pigs going in the back yard. Ah to heck with that, I am going Out today to look at a few farms that for sale !  If i just buy the whole farm that way I can make my own dairy products as well Larry.   ::)
When are you starting again?
John

Oh yeah Um this is part time remember   ;D
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Post by: Tman1 on January 29, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
Over in another thread you mention that it would be nice to have the (entire) oven be able to spin. I think that's a great idea since there is entertainment value within the view of the baking pizzas, and you just never know when it would be nice to be able to work off of a different side. There is a company that does this out in Maine. Any ideas on how that would be accomplished? I've noodled it some, but am interested in other points of thought.  =]
 
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Post by: JConk007 on January 29, 2012, 12:15:15 PM
TMan ,it whistler pizza out of whistler Canada that has a rotating oven it looks like a la penyol  with copper dome but it is not. Pizza man mike built this rotating oven you may want to reach out to him for some guidance  I do like the idea of being abLe to face the opening of the oven any way that need be with your set. Up but there must be some compromise on insulation ?
John
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Post by: CJ on January 29, 2012, 03:27:22 PM
you want to the oven to spin on your next install. The table used for shrink wrapping pallets in a warehouse should be strong enough. Build of that for a base. You could even leave the motor on it, one spin of the oven and the pie is done.
 ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on January 29, 2012, 06:54:53 PM
Lavash makes a revolving floor oven. I am speaking of the face / opening of the oven facing back like yours, then being able  turn to face/ opening over To either side/wheel like the pallet shinned idea jet deck ? And thoughts and how is the diving arm doing?
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Post by: Redshirt on January 29, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
Any videos from Jessabell? 
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Post by: JConk007 on January 29, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
Been to cold, and busy lately soon as I fire up I wlll put up a video.
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Post by: Tman1 on January 30, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
TMan ,it whistler pizza out of whistler Canada that has a rotating oven it looks like a la penyol  with copper dome but it is not. Pizza man mike built this rotating oven you may want to reach out to him for some guidance  I do like the idea of being abLe to face the opening of the oven any way that need be with your set. Up but there must be some compromise on insulation ?
John

Yes, I'm familiar with that story and scenario.  I would think you'd just incorporate the bottom insulation into the unit so it too turns. I don't usually deal with that kind of weight, combined with transport issues.
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Post by: JConk007 on April 09, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
HI all,
Gearing up for the 2012 season  ;D
I tried to whip up a facebook page here
http://www.facebook.com/FlirtingWithFireMobileWoodFiredPizza
 please  let me know if it works? how it looks thoughts ?? If you have facebook account could also  LIKE my page?  I think I am able to do certain things once I hit 50 likes ? I think I need a 15 year old to help me out with this Facebook stuff right?
Thanks all !!
John
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Post by: deb415611 on April 10, 2012, 09:14:29 AM
You are almost 1/2 way there - up to 23 right now
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Post by: JConk007 on April 10, 2012, 09:17:07 AM
Thanks Deb! where are you in CT?
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Post by: deb415611 on April 10, 2012, 10:21:12 AM
Wolcott  about 1/2 way between Danbury & Hartford
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Post by: The Gizz on April 10, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
HI all,
Gearing up for the 2012 season  ;D
I tried to whip up a facebook page here
http://www.facebook.com/FlirtingWithFireMobileWoodFiredPizza
 please  let me know if it works? how it looks thoughts ?? If you have facebook account could also  LIKE my page?  I think I am able to do certain things once I hit 50 likes ? I think I need a 15 year old to help me out with this Facebook stuff right?
Thanks all !!
John



John, Your passion for pizza and sharing your experiences with your mobile set up has helped inspire me to do something similar...and I thank you for that  :)  
I will add another like to your FB page tonight when I get home. I just cant remember my password right now as I rarely login to it.  
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Post by: JConk007 on April 10, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
Thanks for the support. If you have any questions feel free to ask I am here to help. John
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Post by: apizza on April 10, 2012, 12:56:25 PM
Let the games begin!
John I really enjoy reading about your mobile pizza adventures. I wish you a very successful season.
Marty
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Post by: JConk007 on April 10, 2012, 12:58:13 PM
3 booked already! Word of mouth
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
Update 8 booked already !! yeha rock and roll let the cooking begin !!
Friday was the season opener at a floor distributors warehouse they had burgers and dogs and grill set up guy stood there for to hours watching people eat pizza  :-D
First off Kudos again for the dough tool I did a batch of 55  262-264g dough balls as per tool and had a tablespoon of dough left over !!
So I am extending the fermentation this year with the fridge and want to control 2 back to  back parties with 1 Batch .
I fired up Jessebella and I have to say this Fork mixer is amazing and some nice to not Bather frank or spend and hour traveling to and fro
so the Batch 61.5 % .17 IDY 2.8 salt I made wednsday  night at 8 pm Bulk rise room temp til 8 am ball and into fridge Thursday remove 40 dough balls 8 pm room temp til transport to party in prep table so we are talking a goood few day delicious. I of course had to make some left overs tonight will post those here too 3day is GOOD !! finding the zone dough and oven !
heres the set up I was solo with the exception of a friend of my wife who came for moral support and so I didn't drop the GI peels !! so first the left overs then the balls after 12 room bulk then dough just before leaving after 8 bulk 24 fridge and 8 room
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2012, 09:14:47 PM
First set up of the year ! man I forgo what a scrable it is to remember everything! oh I did fix the tent after the picture  and did not get but a few pizza shots a little busy littl ole  me and 40 pies in around 2  hours oh my helper did cut finally try to slice one at the end
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Here is the few Pies I snapped before starting to crank
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2012, 09:25:56 PM
I did take a few after I packed up of the full set mobile up Locked and loaded.  I have it down pretty good and you can see how the 48" prep table goes right across the pick up the ramps fold up 1 on each side should have logo next week from agency and will place on the trailer at least. may go to van ?  but she looks good and rund like a top  for 148,000 miles !!
Looking forward to a great year I will post until  you tell me to stop  maybe just 2-3  of each set up is plenty. I know  many have been inspired here and its great !I am glad to and have answered many questions but maybe sharing a bit too much?  just dont copy my name please, some one I spoke to,  after reading this thread with went with "Playing with fire"  here in Jersey! ( 1 hr away!)  and I am not to thrilled about that ! Not a copy but little too close for comfort. ???
John
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Post by: namssalg on April 21, 2012, 09:39:23 PM
I enjoy all that you post. Congrats on the seasons first gig.

I have dreams of owning an Italian ice shop. Maybe Done With Fire would be a good name?  ???
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Post by: jeff v on April 21, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
Playing with fire, that's funny. It is too bad they're an hour away though. The pizzas are looking good though. Glad to see you're so busy!
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Post by: capamando on April 21, 2012, 10:42:26 PM
Johnny C.

I am sooo jealous that you are cranking up the season and I am still waiting for my oven!... :-D  Love the simplicity of your set up and your pies look great..nice strategy with you doughs/fermentation..I like it. By the way, is that Vermont smoked pepperoni that I see on you pie?

Best wishes from us.

Armando & Sue
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Post by: Redshirt on April 22, 2012, 03:00:24 AM
Hi, I wonder if you would be able to video Jessabell in action, Thanks
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 07:48:17 AM
Thanks all I will put up a video of Jessy next gig I promise
Jeff, seriously I am not thrilled with the choice. would be like "Valentinas  Pasta Amore" 
Armando, I would be happy with a picture of even just a wheel  :-D
seriously hope your cookin in May my friend
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Post by: capamando on April 22, 2012, 08:03:58 AM
Johnny C.

You know how to put the pins in a man!   :-D  You will be the first to see photos of our UWFO (unidentified wood fired oven)!
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Post by: jeff v on April 22, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
Jeff, seriously I am not thrilled with the choice. would be like "Valentinas  Pasta Amore"  

I meant funny (as in weird)that it appears to be such a copy of your name. I'd be upset too.
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 10:17:08 AM
I know your on my side buddy ! thanks Jeff
the Pasta looks awesome !!
Cant wait to try
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Post by: Ev on April 22, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
John, I love the rig and the setup, not to mention the pies! Just wondering; Do you run your prep fridge on a generator or always "house power"?
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Post by: dellavecchia on April 22, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
Those are some seriously beautifully baked pies John! It was great to see your whole rig and the amount of work it takes to run one of these MWFOs.

John
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 02:17:57 PM
Thanks
Steve 90% house power I have a Honda EU200 runs that and lights for night if needed
John its a struggle yes and you really  have  to focus on the oven, temp and fire . getbusy making , forget to add, add too much  :o yep a lot I did usethe oven Last night as well to use up some leftover dough balls
This is 3 Day old dough made wed. night 9 pm as described above and I cooked these last night
I was all over with temp and flame you can see went oven floor around 800 and I actually sat down and ate with the family so few good few light , then oops  forgot  add some wood and a few Little well done for my liking all in all the 3 day ROCKS ! about 24 hrs total room rest in fridge 10 balls to go takin em to 5 days due to rain today ! left over from event and from the mobile so I will post em here !
john
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 02:27:01 PM
few other goodies from bake the Hell boy copy  craigs mushroom ( I wish) and the sorreentino
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 02:33:20 PM
last of em
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Post by: Tman1 on April 22, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
What do you have on the lemon one?
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Post by: thezaman on April 22, 2012, 03:06:52 PM
john,they look delicious, every one of them. but, the last set of margheritas with that little puddle of evoo makes me want to visit you.
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
you are welcome  Any time Larry
Terry its Lemon and smoked mozz. I did not have buffalo smoked.
You can see the fiore d  latte on some of the others .
John
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Post by: RobynB on April 22, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Those look delicious!  You sound so happy, it's wonderful to read your posts  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on April 22, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
Thanks Robyn  yes definitely happy to be cooking again!
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Post by: TXCraig1 on April 22, 2012, 10:12:21 PM
Very nice. I espically love that wet looking Margherita.

CL
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Post by: DarqMan on May 03, 2012, 11:27:15 PM
John, I'm new here and have scanned this thread but haven't read every single post so forgive me if you've already answered this.  But how early do you arrive for an event and how long does it take you to bring your oven to temp? What type of wood are you burning?  You make some amazing looking pizzas.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 06, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
Thanks Darq ,
From arrival I can be Up and cooking in 1 1/2 hour flat or a touch less. 1 hr 15 min sat!! record ( I was late!)  wood is Hard and dry, wood red oak, cherry...
John
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Post by: JConk007 on May 06, 2012, 09:21:21 PM
I know I am a wimp and its not some fancy home brew but hey this stuff tastes great !

ROOT BEER anyone??
JOhn
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Post by: JConk007 on May 06, 2012, 09:24:25 PM
ok above was made by a private  label maker and I printed it out. I am planning to purchase  12oz. glass  specialty soda and water.  Labeled by them its a cool way to spread the good word !! and still tack on 100% markup +  ;D
John
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Post by: Redshirt on May 07, 2012, 02:31:44 AM
Very good idea!  I have seen it done by several places and it seems to work.
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Post by: thezaman on May 07, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
john, get your pics up from your last event!!!!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
as per Larry I will post some pics from Saturday at Tamarack Lake in Chester NY great venue, beautiful dayand some killer pizzas!! did a quick 55 pies with the help of Micheal Madan  owner of Madan Plastics and manufacturer of the artisan dough trays. Quite the stick man as well  !! and Tony Bova from PA who drove hpurse to taste the pie and help out thanks to all !!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:10:08 PM
They were so impressed with the quality and product We will be back here 2 or 3 more times this year!
great spot on the lake. Not crazy just a constant flow of pies we did em all  Lemon, Hell boy, Margs, pesto wild leeks (picked there!)    
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Iadded a full day to my fermentation 17 hr bulk  then day in the fridge out to room for 4-6 hours the result ?
OUTSTANDING!!
so here ismy tribute to Paulie Gee !! fermentation wise
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
More Pauile ish pies
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Post by: capamando on May 07, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
Johnny C,

Beautiful pies..... what are you using for yeast? ..you must have used on the low side to be able to have dough balls looking like the photos after 4-6 hours in ambient temp.  I have been using as little as .15% idy and if I let them stay at room temp for more than two hours, they get somewhat flat and difficult to handle..  

Keep those great photos coming!   ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:24:24 PM
Had enough yet Larry ? sorry for so many but they were looking and tasting so nice with the extra help I was able to get som decent pics. the leeks "ramps" we picked on site suateed and slice up delicious woods to table
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 07, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
John, the pies keep getting better and better. Those are off the charts. Fresh ramps and all, your clients have really got it good. It doesn't get any better then FWF.

CL
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:28:44 PM
ok Desert anyone Nutella ,carmelized confectioners sugar stuffed with Banana and Marshmellow. and my Mugniani signature  pie !
what a day  and a great start to the season !
by the way I am booked for May 12,19,25 June 2,9,16,23, and a few in august   :o ye ha!!
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 07, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
by the way I am booked for May 12,19,25 June 2,9,16,23, and a few in august   :o ye ha!!

I can see why. Time to raise prices???
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:39:48 PM
.16 IDY keep in mind they were in gthe fridge for over 8 hours then took the ride in the cool prep table then stagger coming out after 2 racks  265 Grams I tried to put a few less in each tray to  not trash them on the way out worked nicley ! will do that again
Thanks Craig !! not quite the garage but working on it !
Oven was in the zone ! 750 -800 floor and never moved the coals just kept nice flame
The lemon Pie was a huge hit did about 10 of them !!
more you ask  , ok  enoughs enough but we made over 50
little boy asked  " do you guys take a picture of every  pizza you make ?"  no only 23 of them :-D
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 07, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
You're really getting some awesome lift with that dough.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 07, 2012, 10:58:05 PM
Forcella Mixer rules! Finshed dough temp was 74 degress after 12 min of mix
I dont use starter or anything, but a do a minimum 20 min. autolyse allways have, even with the caputo   If I just didnt have that pesky day job I would try it but-  Family, then pizza, then work, then starter  oops out of time.
Back to the quotes !
 
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Post by: deb415611 on May 08, 2012, 06:38:44 AM
beautiful pies john
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Post by: JConk007 on May 08, 2012, 07:41:42 AM
Thanks all ! If anyone klnows where I can get the fitted table cover would  like to complete the look and shake the picnic tablecloths
Thanks Armando ! Ordering today!
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Post by: communist on May 08, 2012, 09:23:00 AM
Wow John, your pies are looking fantastic!   Mark
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Post by: RobynB on May 08, 2012, 11:27:44 AM
Wow John, you really have taken it to the next level.  Those are the most beautiful pizzas I've seen you make yet.  Really just amazingly good, and the dessert pies look fantastic.  I'm not surprised you're booking solid.  Everything looks just perfect!
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Post by: bakeshack on May 08, 2012, 12:05:47 PM
John, these are definitely the best pies you've made especially given the fact that you made 55 of them!  Awesome work!  The extra 17 hrs fermentation really paid off.  Did you adjust the yeast level or just the fermentation?

Marlon
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Post by: JConk007 on May 08, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
Robyn b, Thanks for your kind words! If I can just get close to these each week I'll be very happy!
Marlon, I agree that these pies were probably some of my best to date  ,definitely the added fermentation has improved The dough. Other factors - I also had a nice dough room (garage) temperature, probably went down to around 55 to 58 at night and a nice 65 during the day so is the ideal climate for fermentation and as we know ia great pizza all starts here  with the dough. Also I am doing a lot more watching and a lot less measuring of time and percentages really trying to look ahead to the weather, temperatures and such. I also believe that with the good help I had there, I was able to really focus on the consistant oven temperature checking often the floor temp with the infrared gun. As mentioned when you're making so many it's easy to get wrapped up in the moment and lose track of the fire, temp, and that much-needed flame!
Thanks again everyone ! Well be out again saturday and I promise not to bore you with so many pictures
Ciao !
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Post by: Tman1 on May 09, 2012, 07:12:41 AM
Kwik Cover has fitted tops in the same color you have shown. If you really want to fancy it up, look for bottoms too (i got some from Sculptware). Good luck.
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Post by: rumper on May 09, 2012, 09:59:50 PM
I was able to really focus on the consistant oven temperature checking often the floor temp with the infrared gun. As mentioned when you're making so many it's easy to get wrapped up in the moment and lose track of the fire, temp, and that much-needed flame!


John,

When you notice the floor temp has dropped what do you do to return it to temp?  How long does this take and does it involve stopping cooking for a while?  Thanks
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Post by: JConk007 on May 09, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
You can tell by how fast they are cooking and just by looking at the bottom if the temp is going down it never goes down below 750 sweet spot is just under 800
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Post by: JConk007 on May 13, 2012, 09:22:04 PM
Weekly Pizza fix at Nicky confirmation Party 50 peeps ! BEAUTIFUL day and the pizza was not halp bad either . Thanks Michaell, wife and daught for the  help !! Nice shady spot for set up and the  dough is coming out really nice me and Jessy are developing quite a relationship so consistent! I love this thing!! I am putting only 8 doughballs 260-265G  in full size tray as longas partyis less than 65 pizzas I am fine can all fit in prep table . makes it much easier to get out and youalll know once you  start tearing apart sticky dough balls the  efficiency is gone !!  Hear we are ready to rock woith the little oven that could !  
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Post by: JConk007 on May 13, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
 Ok so I did 56 pies including 8 nutellas.I am still learning and one of the things I learned is to check the oven temp by cooking off some skins. It gives me a good feel of the oven readiness fermentation of the  dough and big plus I dont have to deal with making these things later on just fill and reheat. They go FAST !! Heres a few on the ready and similar shot for larry !
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Post by: JConk007 on May 13, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
The bounty! see you next week !! Condo assoc. block party  also got a call from the very first party I did last year they want me back?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 13, 2012, 09:37:06 PM
didnt fit sorry few other, sorrentinom smoked mozz. cherry tomatoes, arugula and honey, pest and Pepperoni.
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Post by: thezaman on May 13, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
they look good asusual what was the most popular pie today? the pesto and pep caught my eye, as well as the margherita.you put the basil on post bake this week yes?.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 14, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
Larry ,
Thanks ! I do the basil and Olive oil before bake . Most popular was the again the lemon! skins were so thick I had to remove most of it I will try the slicer this week on the lemons and see if I can get a noice thin slice.
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Post by: scott123 on May 14, 2012, 08:39:54 AM
The pesto pep (pepsto? ;) ) looks really great. I'm also really liking the peeling of the lemon, but you know my thoughts on that  ;D

I can't really say how much it impacts the final product, but crowded dough balls (and the hacking of them when they're removed) vex me a bit, so I'm glad to see that you're giving them a little space.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 14, 2012, 08:44:39 AM
Pepsto like it !! The [people go crazy with the Lemon pie I think just because they never expected it? My admit its becoming a favoriteof mine as well scott  :-[  yes I  like the   extra    room     for the dough balls  I agree when you start hacking and having 1/2 the ball in the box and an umbilical cord to the prep table makes it a bit rough to make a round pizza  !
J
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Post by: acbova on May 16, 2012, 12:09:59 AM
John,

I'm bringing my own knife for the lemon!

Tony
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on May 16, 2012, 07:40:51 AM
I thought I would use  my slicer to get consistent  nice thin uniform  slices  ;D
but feel free to bring your tool
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: rumper on May 18, 2012, 01:38:51 AM
The lemon pizza is different what is on it? Is it sweet or savoury?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 18, 2012, 07:26:52 AM
smoked Mozz lemon EVOO.  sweet? umits a lemon  ;) gotta try it its allwaya hit!
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Post by: Bob1 on May 18, 2012, 08:55:32 AM
John,
The lemon pies look good.  I will have to try one some time.  I saw Robyn had made some with Meyers lemons.  I never knew that Meyers were actually a cross between a lemon and a mandarin.  I have been using Meyers for lemonade and really like the change up.
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 18, 2012, 03:45:47 PM
I wish I could ever find a Meyer lemon, but this pie is great with regular lemons nonetheless.
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Post by: Bob1 on May 18, 2012, 04:28:14 PM
Craig,
I found Meyers at Whole Foods but I think they are seasonal.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2012, 09:30:53 PM
Beautiful weather again ? wow ! next week I am scheduled for Friday and they are calling for rain already ? Steve could this be So  ??? I thought I would show you this weekend How the fridge looks ready for a party of 50. It ain't all slapping pies allthose fresh ingredients are shopped for,packed up sliced ,diced, cooked, stored and oh yeah just a little bit  (yeah Right) of clean clean clean. I also did a topping menu for the association because I am tired of the what do you have ?? Great group condo association community party. and they raved about it !!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
Fun People !! first hill party :) tucked myself into the parking area just in front of the action workred out great
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2012, 09:39:21 PM
I know your sick of these but Heres just a few Pies. I  like any feed back as to how people thnik it can be done better, as I  I am striving to keep it  real! or any  comment as to toppings, set up...  from outsiders are also helpful and appreciated I did add the table covers ! .Nice touch look professional  Til next week
Ciao JOhn
few more sprout right craig? they did LOVE that pie as well and Hot honey conitues to be a buzz!
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 20, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
That is so cool. I get jazzed up for you every time I see the pics.

What do your customers think of the sprout pies?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2012, 09:55:57 PM
Thanks Craig everybody really enjoyed the brussel sprout pies! I had them all waiving the white surrender napkin  flag in about 1 1/2 hour! until the Nutella pies came out :)  then they cursed me out and said "how dare you bring this around after I am ready to explode" !!  OK I gotta try that! and thats whats way  cool about this gig people LOVE the freshness and variety of the whole experience  !
John
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Post by: norma427 on May 20, 2012, 10:12:48 PM
John,

Great looking pies!  ;D I really enjoy reading about your events.

Norma
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Post by: Kermit on May 22, 2012, 08:00:15 AM
Don't really know how I could have not read this thread already   ??? First of all I think it's so cool that you're actually doing this, instead of just dreaming of doing it. I've been playing with the same thought for a couple of weeks now, and your thread is quite helpful of me looking deeper into this. I could see this as a stepping stone for myself to try pizzamaking off before actually going for the ultimate dream of opening my own place in Denmark.

Do you mind sharing how much the initial investment was to get it all started?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 22, 2012, 10:27:44 PM
I have seen used Mobile Ovens here and on craigslist in the USA for as low as $7000 other custom builders offer  high end larger models that Can run you upward of $25,000.00 This is the first step no oven no pizza.  The you have to pull it ! $38,000 ford F350 4x4?, or $3,000.00 dodge ram 1500. Then it all a matter of the type of events you wish to do ? Private catering, Street fairs, Multi day festivals..... Do you need a mixer $1500-$5500 or going to mix by hand. Do you  need a refridgerated prep table $700- $2500 or can you use coolers..  3 comapartment sink $1500, or bucket with soap ?do you  want to use cheapo wooden peels $11 each or Custom GI metal product at $81 ea.? In other words its hard for me to answer ?  another guy just spent $180,000.00  :o on an enclosed. truck mounted Stefano Ferraro oven. I would open my own place before ever plopping down that kind of money but you get the idea I would say to be safe with all the goodies and a decent inventory of required products  $25,000.00 ?? Have I talked you out of it yet ??
John
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Post by: Bob1 on May 22, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
John,
One other to thing to mention.  Depending on the truck size and trailer weight once you go over a 10,000lbs truck or truck trailer combined you need to be DOT certified.  That means registration, DOT# and business placard on truck, emergency kit, fire extinguisher, log book if over 100 miles, and 2yr health cert.  I kid you not.  With the Ford you can get removable magnetic labels for when you tow.  Most police in Jersey will not bother small time people unless something looks unsafe.  Technically they can fine you a couple of grand.  In Maryland there is not much mercy.  It is one of those things that they set the number at 10K and because of the weight you are more dangerous.  Most of the guys you see towing race cars are in violation, and sometimes get pulled over.  Don't really know the situation if you do get in an accident and are not legit.  I hate to think it could void liability insurance but you might want to check.
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Post by: Kermit on May 23, 2012, 05:28:49 AM
I have seen used Mobile Ovens here and on craigslist in the USA for as low as $7000 other custom builders offer  high end larger models that Can run you upward of $25,000.00 This is the first step no oven no pizza.  The you have to pull it ! $38,000 ford F350 4x4?, or $3,000.00 dodge ram 1500. Then it all a matter of the type of events you wish to do ? Private catering, Street fairs, Multi day festivals..... Do you need a mixer $1500-$5500 or going to mix by hand. Do you  need a refridgerated prep table $700- $2500 or can you use coolers..  3 comapartment sink $1500, or bucket with soap ?do you  want to use cheapo wooden peels $11 each or Custom GI metal product at $81 ea.? In other words its hard for me to answer ?  another guy just spent $180,000.00  :o on an enclosed. truck mounted Stefano Ferraro oven. I would open my own place before ever plopping down that kind of money but you get the idea I would say to be safe with all the goodies and a decent inventory of required products  $25,000.00 ?? Have I talked you out of it yet ??
John

Not at all  ;D Actually, you just sparked the fire a tad more. It's good to know what I might be facing of different challenges, but I think the biggest lesson is that you can choose the expensive way and the cheap way. I guess the best option is right down the middle, and then finding out what you need to have, and what is nice to have.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 23, 2012, 07:51:56 AM
Dont think I am over 10 K but thanks for the pointers. Just trying to give Kermit some #s to think  about. Bottom line there is a lot more to it than meet the eye.  (as the lats and atts t shirt says)

Dont dream your Life, Live you Dream  !
John
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Post by: rumper on May 24, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
I have set up a similar business in Australia for about $12000 AUD  $8500 oven about $3500 prep fridge, table, esky, etc... (Not including vehicle)  It is great fun
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Post by: JConk007 on May 25, 2012, 10:19:02 PM
Todays Gig, with the exception of 12 pies I have left for sunday I am  Taking the rest of the weekend off !! ;D
Here my 2 pic oer week  limit. During set up. 45 people with ttent amnd all. Yes steve  it called for rain and guess what ? 0.  I  guess I am boring you all with the pizza shots so I will hold off   :-[ sorry all I was getting carried away with the excitement of how well Flirting with Fire going and how the pies were really progressing out of the mobile Have a happy Holiday weekend all !!
John
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Post by: Tman1 on May 28, 2012, 08:57:55 AM
Dont think I am over 10 K but thanks for the pointers. Just trying to give Kermit some #s to think  about. Bottom line there is a lot more to it than meet the eye.  (as the lats and atts t shirt says)

Dont dream your Life, Live you Dream  !
John


FYI: Just about any full size pick-up truck pulling a trailer is over 10,000 pounds.  Something they've started to pay attention to here as well.
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on May 28, 2012, 09:43:28 AM
John do you bring another car with more supplies and equipment or does everything go in the truck?
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 28, 2012, 09:52:20 PM
John,
One other to thing to mention.  Depending on the truck size and trailer weight once you go over a 10,000lbs truck or truck trailer combined you need to be DOT certified.  That means registration, DOT# and business placard on truck, emergency kit, fire extinguisher, log book if over 100 miles, and 2yr health cert.  I kid you not.  With the Ford you can get removable magnetic labels for when you tow.  Most police in Jersey will not bother small time people unless something looks unsafe.  Technically they can fine you a couple of grand.  In Maryland there is not much mercy.  It is one of those things that they set the number at 10K and because of the weight you are more dangerous.  Most of the guys you see towing race cars are in violation, and sometimes get pulled over.  Don't really know the situation if you do get in an accident and are not legit.  I hate to think it could void liability insurance but you might want to check.

I don't think this is right. At least not in all states - perhaps it is specific for your state?

Here in Texas, I don't even need a permit for up to 34,000# on tandem axels or 20,000# on a single axel.

CL
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Post by: Bob1 on May 28, 2012, 10:27:06 PM

I don't think this is right. At least not in all states - perhaps it is specific for your state?

Here in Texas, I don't even need a permit for up to 34,000# on tandem axels or 20,000# on a single axel.

CL



Craig,
I do not know about Texas but I have trucks that travel in PA, NJ, NY, DE, and MD at times.  The Sprinter box trucks are 10,200 each and the one Sprinter van is just under 10,000 but not when towing.  I sometimes tow a 5K trailer with a scissor lift.  You then have to add the GVW for both.  The 10,200 trucks have to have the labels at all time but the van only needs it when towing.  Men have been stopped in MD and NJ for routine inspections.  It is the real deal and there is no way out.  I forgot to mention that you need to stop at weigh stations also.   I am based in PA and to get mine I had to go to a mandatory interview with a State Trooper.  He assured me it was the case in all the states I do business.   It is all on the web if you want to research it.

Bob
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Post by: Pete-zza on May 30, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
John,

I found the following link over at the PMQ Think Tank and immediately thought of you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh4-wR9Itw&list=UUr0Nhp8T96ydA8aYAnyeopw&index=10&feature=plcp. What I found especially interesting is how the profit motive seemed to take a back seat to the love and passion of making the pizzas.

Peter
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Post by: scott123 on May 30, 2012, 09:22:01 PM
For a family that is SO passionate about their pizza and that spent SUCH a tremendous amount of time online researching the perfect pizza  ::), one would think they could actually figure out the inherent inferiority of a par-baked crust.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 30, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
Thanks for thinking of me Peter cool video.
Scott I am with you , but as long as they believe in what they are making ( napolitani?)  - its all good, and probably much better than most. and the fact that they are out there doing it for real is the kicker. After people get there forno bravo P60 and make some of the best pizza they have had, and confirm it with a few good parties , many talk and or dream about doing a mobile for years before they actually do it, or bail out completely.  I am now involved in several forums where it just a business, many operators do frozen dough balls, par baked, or even premade skins. NOT, NO WAY, and NEVER, for me! But hey thats just me.
PS now after this early season is up and running there is a certain minimum price for my Passion now :P I will say it again its a lot of work. After washing the same dough tray for the 100th time you can begin to understand.  I strongly predict if you all wait just a few years there will be plenty of Mobiles on craiglist or ebay to choose from. They are already popping up.
I will also say I will negotiate a lower price if it means getting them a taste of something close to Neapolitan pizza I make. ( passion)
 But I yes love it, and think I allways will  :chef:
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on May 30, 2012, 10:02:15 PM

I will also say I will negotiate a lower price if it means getting them a taste of something close to Neapolitan pizza I make. ( passion)
 But I yes love it, and think I allways will  :chef:
John

John, I will respect you more than you will ever know.

CL
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Post by: Tman1 on May 31, 2012, 09:32:57 AM
John,

I found the following link over at the PMQ Think Tank and immediately thought of you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh4-wR9Itw&list=UUr0Nhp8T96ydA8aYAnyeopw&index=10&feature=plcp. What I found especially interesting is how the profit motive seemed to take a back seat to the love and passion of making the pizzas.

Peter

A lot of good it does to wear gloves & then fix your hair and sunglasses...

I can second the statement about a lot of work. Most only see the actual event time.... way, way more to it than that. Making dough, prepping ingredients, getting it all loaded up, then actually setting up, loading back up after the party, washing dishes, putting everything away. My first big event had 3 times the prep time against the actual event time. I've gotten better and lowered my pre-event time, but still a ton of work.
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Post by: landras on June 01, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
Hi John, fantastic pizzas, love them. I am thinking about starting something like you have to make some extra cash during the weekends, could you please share which is your profit in a party for 50 for example? I am trying to run numbers to convince wife....
thanks man
nico
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Post by: thezaman on June 01, 2012, 07:36:53 PM
john, sorry for slamming my pics on your thread,please forgive me.  :( i meant to just chime in on the work involved.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 01, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
Just start a Beautiful flame thread so I can slam some pics  on there as well  :-D no Biggy Larry you know i love ya. I know you worked so hard , you had to get it out there some where? Problem is I only see 1 pic where the guy is actually working YOU!  And theres  only 1 of the 3 events ? Where are the others, parties and action shots?
But hey  seriously thanks for backing me up on the lot of work thing, People just don't see the behind the scenes work or expenses. The insurance bills on the  business, the Truck, oven and equipment,mixers...and all those pesky goodies we need to make this business work just are not noticed.all goes to the bottom line.  Good thing is you have a full staff on call  and all the equip refrigeration. Good reason you are rested by Monday while I am still doing dishes!    :'(
I have a minimum $ and sticking to it. I just turned down a smaller party where the #s just didn't work and I have enough practice at this point.
John
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Post by: thezaman on June 02, 2012, 12:19:16 AM
glad you are not mad, i have seen both sides of john conklin and i want to stay on the good side. you are from jersey , you sell cement products,and you know my shoo size :-D
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Post by: Ev on June 02, 2012, 08:04:44 AM
glad you are not mad, i have seen both sides of john conklin and i want to stay on the good side. you are from jersey , you sell cement products,and you know my shoo size :-D

 :-D :-D :-D
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Post by: JConk007 on June 02, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Larry,
Fuggetta Bout it!  ;)
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Post by: jak123 on June 03, 2012, 08:00:42 AM
Hi There...wondering if you (or anyone) has anything to say about the Doughmate trays and which you prefer to use, Standard or Artisan? Other than size, anything really different. I haven't read any threads on the trays, but i see so many different ones being used, there has to be a preference to some.  Thanks in advance,
Josh
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Post by: thezaman on June 03, 2012, 10:32:38 AM
i use the artisan since they fit into a cambro catering unit.i think it depends on the amount of pizzas you are doing.the artisan fit nicely in your home refrigerator. i usualy put five in each.
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Post by: jak123 on June 03, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
i use the artisan since they fit into a cambro catering unit.i think it depends on the amount of pizzas you are doing.the artisan fit nicely in your home refrigerator. i usualy put five in each.

So for home/catering use, go with the artisan, but for restaurant use, seems like the full size makes more sense?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 03, 2012, 09:37:45 PM
 Larry another picture  :o , thats it ! size 10 right ?    Just kidding..   I love the stand that saves you $199 bucks eh ? brilliant ! you built?  I still need to come up with a secure system to place and hold the few peels if not grass, they slide all over! and they ain't cheap !
Thanks for posting !
 The Dough mate are indestructible! Highly reccomend  either size. (and I can get em 4U)  some trays are fiberglass and can be damages loading unloading and schlepping around to events some just dont seal well
John
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Post by: mellowjamie on June 06, 2012, 02:46:17 AM
wow.  a big genuine thank you for this thread.  i have always wanted to sling pizza.  im obsessesd wih doughs and cooking for others.  ive been saving for a couple years and have  a decent chunk saved. 
can you talk figures and margins? if not i understand.
but im curious to what you charge and how you determine.
other costs
thanks for all this again.
i read every post and loved every pic!
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Post by: pizzablogger on June 06, 2012, 03:32:35 PM
Wow, HTF did I miss this entire thread until now?!

John, your pizzas look tremendous. Hats off to you for some really excellent looking pizzas and your passion and excitement just ooze out of all the posts on this thread, which has been a fun read.

Your stand is really nice. The three tub sink and refrigerated toppings box/cooler are sweet! I'm really envious of your WFO. My LBEs are giving me such fits as I can never seem to get them to bake in a manner I am happy with, no matter how many different 'effing experiments I've done with air deflectors, objects in the lid, etc. The WFO is hard to beat!

Are your pizzas 12" or 10". It looks like the red plastic plates above are large enough to hold your pizzas without too much of a downward slope of the pizza from them resting on the raised edge of the plate.  What diameter are the plates and how much do they cost?

Thanks and keep the good vibes and pizzas going!  :D
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Post by: weemis on June 06, 2012, 03:52:21 PM
Wow, HTF did I miss this entire thread until now?!

John, your pizzas look tremendous. Hats off to you for some really excellent looking pizzas and your passion and excitement just ooze out of all the posts on this thread, which has been a fun read.

Your stand is really nice. The three tub sink and refrigerated toppings box/cooler are sweet! I'm really envious of your WFO.

Are your pizzas 12" or 10". It looks like the red plastic plates above are large enough to hold your pizzas without too much of a downward slope of the pizza from them resting on the raised edge of the plate.  What diameter are the plates and how much do they cost?

Thanks and keep the good vibes and pizzas going!  :D

that's not john's photos, that's thezaman hi-jacking sharing his photos on this thread  ;D
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Post by: pizzablogger on June 06, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
that's not john's photos, that's thezaman hi-jacking sharing his photos on this thread  ;D

Most of the pizzas are from John in this thread. The lift he is getting in the dough and the pizzas look excellent.

I see thezaman has posted a few of his own recently.....good call. He's got the three tub sink! His pies look very tasty as well....goodness two people cranking out the goods.  :)  --K
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Post by: JConk007 on June 06, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
Thanks Kelly!! appreciate the kind words thanks for reading !
 yeap Larry Jumped right in here. Good thing his pies are as good if not better. He is a good friend of mine  So I dont Mind The Hi Jack. I have shot a firm warning acroos his bow  :-D    I also have a 3 compartment  sink  as well under way but I just use a coleman water heater and the 3 sinks. Private catering which is my Niche does not require that.  I do have a brilliant Hand washing staion :) and thank the important Piece the oven helps a little too !
I am doing Wyckoff day saturday June 9th and will be slapping pies from 12-6 on 1 fooT !
 small 40 pie event in OPO( other persons oven) tomorrow  then time to focus biggest event ever for me Nervous and excited Gonna be a hoot ! going in with 200  dough balls !!! Margherita, Pepperoni, or sausage. Mostly Family ,  No gourmet pies here head dowm and go like hell!   Hope to sell out by 4 pm estimated attendance is 2000-3000 people Holy crap ! I also have my own Water  and old Fashion Glass Bottle soda with my own label (see below ) ! Orange Cream, Pinapple Diet Birch and Grap. Looks really cool and puts the word out thee
I am doing this to hopefully pick some nice local  private catering work and donate back to the YMCA and the cause ( not all !)
John
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Post by: JConk007 on June 06, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
Guys and Gals Here is my new logo any comments will be appreciated . Tried to keep it simple and to the point recognize the oven ??
I am feeling a touch more  professional now !

oh yeah Check out that Leoparding !! ;D added by yours truly !
John
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Post by: scott123 on June 06, 2012, 11:28:48 PM
I looked at the logo first (before reading what you wrote) and said to myself "There's no way leoparded pizza clipart exists" :) I'm guessing the leoparding took some time?

The logo feels a bit busy.  You have a lot of information to convey, so I understand that it can't be that simple, but, with everything going on, it feels a little cluttered.

The black cheese shadow squiggles on the pizza have to go. It's the focal center of the logo and right now, it just looks hairy. The leoparding looks great, but the center of the pie needs work. I like the multi-colored stonework, but I think, for the sake of a cleaner look, you might want to try one color for the stone.

The Flirting with Fire text looks a bit isolated. As you look at the logo, your eye tends to zero in on 'Mobile Wood Fired Pizza' more than 'Flirting with Fire.'  The company name should have a more central focus.

I like the font, but I think, somehow, a better font might be out there.  This is fire-y, but it adds to the busy-ness and also could impact legibility. As the artistry of the font increases, it can be difficult to maintain legibility.

I'm just throwing this out there, but a chimney might give you a stronger, shield like aesthetic and could convey that it's an oven a tiny bit faster. Maybe.

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Post by: JConk007 on June 07, 2012, 12:06:38 AM
 Geez had to be scott to make the first comments .  I was hopein I would get one "looks cool " before, But hey I asked for it. I am thinking I agree on some of your thoughts  maybe the hairy ness? maybe we can tone that down a bit. It came a long ways from the original thought for sure. Nothings forever and I put it up  here fohonest feed back. I hope some others will chime in as well that just take a glance comment and then study it for imperfections. I can take it so please be honest. If I had a $10,000 marketing budget probably would look a little different as well.  But or the 2 coffees it cost me its a start. Gotta try to live with it it and just fine tune a bit. As you know I am just a weekend warrior. Making Pizza and doin dishes  :-D Also keep in mind  most that look, do not have the pizza sense most do on here
Feel free to revise and send it on over. I appreciate it  
John
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Post by: scott123 on June 07, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Oh, yeah, I forgot to say that it 'looks cool'  :-D

Seriously, though, I was a graphic designer for 10 years, so, when asked for criticism, I tend to look at a logo with a microscope.  As far as logos go, this is very good, but it can be a tiny bit better.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 07, 2012, 08:28:58 AM
Gotcha,  as I said its  much  Scott, I know you have other skills beside those round things with sauce on it  :pizza:
J
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Post by: Pete-zza on June 07, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
John,

I personally like the logo basically the way it is. Maybe some minor tweaking along the lines mentioned by scott123 might be helpful but one other possible change might be to substitute the graphic Flirting with Fire for the words Mobile WOOD FIRED Pizza inasmuch as the logo is clear all by itself, especially with the wheels and related black areas along with the oven, that what you make is a pizza in a mobile wood fired oven.

Peter
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Post by: weemis on June 07, 2012, 09:59:24 AM
I'm also a graphic designer by trade, though to be clear, I don't do logos. Or should I say I don't do logos well  ;) With that in mind, a logo is something recognizable. It's the thing that you look at that makes you think of a company. It's simple and efficient, usable in both black & white and color, large or small. All the stuff that is going on here is indeed important, but it doesn't necessarily need to be in the logo per se. My suggestion is to minimize the amount of stuff going on in the logo. check out this website for the 30 most recognizable logos and you'll see what I mean. http://speckyboy.com/2011/06/15/30-of-the-most-iconic-logos-and-brands/

I know you're nothing like adidas or mcdonalds or marlboro, but to take a page from their book, that's what a logo is for, simple recognition. Then there's the information besides the logo, like web address and phone number. these things are something else. they are in addition to the logo.

My advice. Minimize the amount of things going on and give em something simple and identifiable.
Here's my logo. Not awesome, mind you (I've been working on it for quite a while now and still don't have it right), but it's simple and gets the point across.
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Post by: thezaman on June 07, 2012, 01:50:01 PM
yeap Larry Jumped right in here. Good thing his pies are as good if not better. He is a good friend of mine  So I dont Mind The Hi Jack. I have shot a firm warning acroos his bow  Laugh    I also have a 3 compartment  sink  as well under way but I just use a coleman water heater and the 3 sinks. Private catering which is my Niche does not require that.  I do have a brilliant Hand washing staion Smiley and thank the important Piece the oven helps a little too !

 well, it looks like i better stay out of jersey. one of johnny mozz's boys will come after me. beat me with a 13 inch gi metal peel.
 can we move that information i feel very bad.
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Post by: cnkymnky on June 07, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
John, I am new posting here although I have been lurking and trying to learn here for a couple years now. I have to tell you that you have been big inspiration to me since my wife and i decided to start our mobile wood fired pizza buisness. Our oven is scheduled to be delivered in August so we are not quite ready to go yet, although we have completed building our prep kitchen which passed the health department inspection 2 weeks ago. I wish you the very best in your venture and thank you and everyone else who posts here and makes this such a wonderful site to learn and draw inspiration from :)
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Post by: Ev on June 07, 2012, 05:33:49 PM
I'm still building mine. Having the darndest time coming up with a name. I don't know why but I thought that would be the easy part.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 07, 2012, 05:56:07 PM
Larry  :-D I was thinkng a 18" perforated peel with a 59" handle !!. you can keave it no biggie seriously. But you  have to answer all the  questions then from the newbies as well  :P  I try to help whenever I can as I have said we did nt have this kind of great stuff when I dove in just the  interenet.We should have a mobile ovens and ...thread  as it is becoming so popular.

Guys thanks for all the tips and advicde !! all well spoken!
I like simple and I think this is more an ad ... then just basic logo as mentioned
as you said and Peter also,  could do with less and just the mobile wood fired pizza I had to get a start and this is great its only graphice so we can work on it ! 
ciao!
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Post by: thezaman on June 07, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
john, if you used one of those oven brushes GI sells i would have nothing to worry about. i like you logo,and i think scotts idea of adding a smoke stack would add to the look.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 10:21:33 AM
Larry sending out the brush fix on Monday new scraper bar with Teeth and a wing nut "no I am not coming"  no more allen screws!
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
BIGGEST DAY EVER!
Not your avearge back yard pizza party for sure !
A record 145 + pies for me yesterday at Wyckoff Day. Little Burnt out after Thursday then saturday and all on 1 foot !! 1000s attended annual Wyckoff NJ family day and Theset up was an absoulute HUGE HIT. What an experience for Mini me.
My ego is on fire as 2 people said the pizza was better than Amano and this guy just came back from Naples, and Compared it to Da Michele ! are you kidding me?
any who
What a tremendous amount of work this was a full day of prep , paperwork, health inspections ... back to private next week please ! and there should be a plenty!!   (I balled 160 myself!) So many people took cards and brochures and were fascinated by the fire and real pizza! Not out of a bag or box. FRESH !
I got hook up with local businesses , farm Markets families.. all stopped in and inquired on upcoming events. Thanks to My wife who stands by me literally and collected the cash while talking upo the Bus.
I had me stretch , topper, Oven Man and cutter server. Started nice I put out 3 samples only offered Margheita ,Pep, and sausage,then BAM It was Head down for about 3 hours ! then more controlled for the last few. Weather held off and all went well.  FUN? well believe it or not YES it was still fun for me . Profitable . well I am a nice guy so I donated $ to the cause ,took and add in the paper, bought logo drinks to sell, had 3 helpers, permits,  lots of ingredients... um anything left for John  boy?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 10:49:00 AM
good news is I dont have to bore oyou all with a ton of same old Pizza pics I was way too busy!!
Dough boxews everywhere rest were in my prep table. I was able to get 90 in there alone. Here is a before during set up, and after, just outside my booth, You can see the peeps!! and this was only 1 area ! Proud to say I passed HD inspection with Flying colors ! comments were "nice Setup! "
I have 20 dough balls left anyone for a pizza!!
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Post by: thezaman on June 10, 2012, 10:50:15 AM
 don't forget john boy,maybe you could buy some new toys for your fwf business. i would like to see pictures please !!
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on June 10, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
I'm still building mine. Having the darndest time coming up with a name. I don't know why but I thought that would be the easy part.
What about

Penn State Baker(s)
Mobile Wood-Fired Pizza Company
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Post by: Bob1 on June 10, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
John,
Congratulations on a historic day, you are the man.  Just curious, how much wood does it take to keep that oven going for 145 pies.
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Post by: thezaman on June 10, 2012, 10:55:16 AM
 john, can you tell me what you had in your cooler boxes as well as the prep table.where did you store the dough?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
I could tell you but ?? >:D
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Post by: Ev on June 10, 2012, 11:28:30 AM
What about

Penn State Baker(s)
Mobile Wood-Fired Pizza Company

Thanks for the suggestions! Keep em coming! ;)  Since it's a converted vintage Airstream trailer, we are considering X- Stream Pizza. My partner likes Pizza Pod, which I hate. We both kind of like Rolling in the Dough, but my wife thinks it sounds a bit uppity. We'll see.

Sorry for the hijack, John! :-[
I should really start my own thread when I come up with a name.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Bob If you look at my storage area in the front of my oven I went loaded and came back with at least a third!  I kept the floor right around 750-800 max and used minimal wood after heat up enough to keep a small flame this is Important ! Towrd the end hr 4+ the bottoms were burnoing if not cooked off the the floor  simply becuase the pizza flow decreased which draws the heat fromthe hearth. Beside dough Management #1 ,  this is the #2 aspect of this bus. Just my opinion.
I nailed the dough this time must say too 3 racks out about ten and then alot of watching and touching to assure they didnt blow out!
Larry- In coolers was only soda and water  the other cooler had so extra pep and sauce thats it.  I had 7 full size tray 11 each to simplify removal and 2 artisan 5 ea. so 88 in prep table and the rest depot transport bag works GREAT on sale ( of course)  $29 :)  bag holds 6 artisan trays and 2 bun + ice packs dough Did  not drop a degree in 3 hours of 75 degrees   so thats another 38
I rolled out with 144 and quick trip back to commisary for 3 more tray wich I barely got into
the 1 pizza pic i took  comin out of the little oven that DID!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on June 10, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
another Hi Jacker alert !  :'(
Not sure where I  jumped in and asked for name suggestions but I got it here on the forum  from member Pizza Police  and let him know I was grabbibg it some great Ideas from felllow pizza people!
John
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Post by: Woodfiredovenpizzero on June 10, 2012, 09:15:53 PM
John:

Always great to see your successful events. You're my new benchmark!

Edgar
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Post by: cnkymnky on June 10, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
Another inspiring event from "da man".....you have me green with envy that we aren't up and running yet...conrats on a very successful even my friend. Pizzas look awsome...some day, yes some day         
                                                                                                      Ray
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Post by: JConk007 on June 11, 2012, 08:19:46 AM
Thanks all,
Rest up now Ray, and Get ready ready for the Ride ! Whats the ETA on your Oven and how long was the wait ?

Edgar Go For it I have said it before  "Dont dream your life live your dream"

John
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Post by: jeff v on June 11, 2012, 08:53:41 AM
Hey John-very cool what you are doing! Also very cool that you gave the money to a cause, but I'm sure you'll get some private bookings from it. That's one of the things that intrigued me about that business. You can do a big or small public event that basically advertises your private party service.

Breaking even or making a bit of money while marketing-what a concept!  :-D

Take care,
Jeff
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Post by: cnkymnky on June 11, 2012, 09:01:31 AM
Whats the ETA on your Oven and how long was the wait


ETA is should be completed around the 2nd week in August then wait for the delivery. So by the end of August is the estimate. About 10-12 weeks from time order was placed...a very long 10-12 weeks :-D
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Post by: pizzablogger on June 11, 2012, 04:43:21 PM
145 pies in a day at your stand....you're an ANIMAL!  :)

Love it, love it. You've become a hero to me!  8)

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Post by: JConk007 on June 11, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
Ray,
Hope you can get  a few months in before winter? add in the well we had a few delays in the paint shop and your into September ! start looking now for apple picking location doing hay rides, kiddy maze ... halloween gigs ... go present your concept once you start it may hopefully become too busy to where the Marketing Hat

Kelly- yes a personal record I did 3 display pies early 1 of each which held up very good and really worked nice so people could see it was not some greasy slab. I dropped 1 going in and oven man mashed 1 few dough balls trashed on the way out ... oh Love thy neighbor! Took care of the neighbors both side dunkin donuts , iced coffe all day and munchkins :) and the other side Kosher deli with Hot pastrami  they loved it.
so from 12-5 yep sold about 130 and made 145 pizzas  a record for this animal. I still have leftovers .
hmnn 5day ferment in the fridge YUM!  :P
JOhn
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Post by: Pizza Napoletana on June 14, 2012, 03:17:05 PM
BIGGEST DAY EVER! A record 145 + pies for me yesterday at Wyckoff Day. . . .

Way to go, John! 145 pizzas is a big number. You're the Don Giovanni of WFO, who flirts not with women, but fire!
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on June 14, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
Way to go, John! 145 pizzas is a big number. You're the Don Giovanni of WFO, who flirts not with women, but fire!
Man that picture is so trippy.
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Post by: Chicago Bob on June 14, 2012, 05:53:01 PM
Stop trying to hyp-mo-tize me!!     8)
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Post by: Alligator on June 14, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Man that picture is so trippy.

That *is* a trippy picture.  If you put that on a business card does it have the same effect?
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Post by: rumper on June 14, 2012, 10:12:55 PM
Awesome John.  Did you say that the floor lost some heat as the day went on?  Were the pizzas taking longer to cook towards the end and about how long were people waiting for there pizzas when it was really busy?  Sorry for all the questions but these are the issues I have, my first gig we got swamped totally unprepared for how busy we were and customers waiting up to 40 mins to get their order.  Getting better now doing a private function for about 80 tonight and another for 110 next weekend, just me and teh wife lets hope we are still married come the end of the month (she can't understand why I enjoy it so much)>
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Post by: weemis on June 15, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
lets hope we are still married come the end of the month (she can't understand why I enjoy it so much)>

this is why my wife doesn't help. we value our marriage too much to sabotage it like that. she stays with the kid, and i find someone to help. for our sanity, it's better this way!
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Post by: JConk007 on June 17, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
rump Hey great stuff 100+ people is big!! and yes your wife will divorce you if you donrt get some help $10 hour have saved my ass this year and yes, I tip very well! dependingon party You need at least 4 people to do production 2 Make , 1 good oven, 1 slice serve clean and answer questions.  at least get 1 more it worthit just to move the stuff arounf tables . colloers ... I habve a bad back and NOWAY I wouldbe doingthis on my own. My wife only comes along when she can collect Money  :-D bt shes very supportiveand a great sales person
Floor maintains heat fine I mentioned when the cooking slowed down thats when the borroms burned because there was not that constant pull of heat fron the hearth. Get in the zone and go with it !!
Keep it fun!
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Post by: JConk007 on June 17, 2012, 05:51:42 PM
So I did a local Party nice not to have to drive but 10 min! ;D set up and ready to cook in 1:15 from stone cold Beautiful day !! Great Pizza, Really getting a feel based on outside Temp when to pull the dough. so it does not blow out I take the first 3 racks out about 3+ hours when I get there 1 1/2 hrs early I grab 1 more out then look touch watch usually warm so after #2 pull 3+4 and so on .. I Can not  express again how import to the overall operation and outcome the dough is. This is the biggest difference between Back yard Bob and and a successful mobile business.  I am down at straight 60% now with 10% HG 90% Caputo and I have found zone!!
heres the set up and dough
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Post by: JConk007 on June 17, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
A new addition too the line up welcome Bacon Jam !! Bacon Marmalade ! WOW
New #1 for the gang . See you next week 75 people Graduation Party yeah Ha
JOHN
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Post by: cnkymnky on June 17, 2012, 09:38:40 PM
Once again, an amazing job John. Do you supply the tables and chairs for these events? Counting, counting, counting the days ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on June 17, 2012, 11:54:45 PM
Thanks! The Tables and chairs are generally supplied by the owner, I have Never done that, but hey,  If theres a buck to be made, I know who and where to call to get the rentals delivered right to the gig.
John
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Post by: wheelman on June 18, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
nice work John! 
what is your doughball weight?
bill
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Post by: JConk007 on June 18, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
I am using a 252 G +-1 or 2 dough ball works out to a nice 12" for me . Heres the prep rack also  bifg bucket of fresh Mozz and about 10 toppings , basil and arugula ricotta goes right under in fridge for white pies
Hope you are doing great as well !
John
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Post by: JConk007 on June 24, 2012, 11:31:41 AM
! Cant believe I got in here!   but this was1 of My Favotrite set ups to date . Guys if you are considering this business , BIGGER is not allways better! No way anyone with a  side facing oven,  concession trailer, or a big ole 48".. oven was getting in here ! Guy was very pick and left as we came no damage at all The little 40" did  65 pies 2 hrs  and out !
gotta go make pizza! later The Mayor today !!
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Post by: JConk007 on June 24, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
few from the party and from my work  station looking out
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Post by: JConk007 on June 24, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
pizzas yes we made a few. Last shot is prep station rack  my rack  for a full on menu ! ;D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on June 24, 2012, 11:42:40 AM
What size is your refrigerated prep table John, thanks,  Sweet look'in pies too!
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Post by: wheelman on June 24, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
that looks like a great party! pizzas look excellent.  nice job shoe-horning that oven in.
bill
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Post by: thezaman on June 24, 2012, 01:53:20 PM
 hi john, man am i impressed with that setup. it looks like it is part of the party theme, very professionally done!!! you know that a call is coming to ask way too many questions. and your pies are beautiful. my crew will see every one of them!!!
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Post by: flyboy4ual on June 24, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Very cool John!  Are you able to detach your oven and roll it into place, or is it pretty much stuck where you drop it off?

Scott D.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 24, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
The Prep Table is a 48" with Marbletop

squeezed it right in like it grew there! if you walked in from the other side of the house  ( had too !) you would say How the ? did you? whats this? after the amazement dies down its OMG is this good !  :P

Scott once I unhook the oven, Using the 4 leveling jacks, some ingenuity, some pieces of 5/8 plywood and 3 guys oven Can be maneuvered into place. Other side mount ovens on a dual axle are SOL its pick a spot and drop it.this set up was a favorite for sure. If you you through the thread you can see I am able climb over curbs. get poolside , and leap tall buildings in a single bound ! I did not like becauseI am a mans  that it was smaller but right  now  I am
lovin my little oven!!
avergage party 50-75 people is no problem with this 40" might mouse Can do in 2.5 hours 3 people 1 oven, ! cut, prep back (dough, ingredients..) and me slapping my brains out  !
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Post by: JConk007 on June 25, 2012, 11:06:49 PM
Back to Back ! The day after this is  is Sunday, at the Mayors House! What a spread!! I should have taken pictures of what I was looking at from my prep station. :o  the Home well over 8000 sf and the backyard wear to die for! Movie theatre 10 stadium seats! full Irish pub, gym, and a wine cellar that would curl TXcraigs toes! pond , flat screens outdoors ...
Anyway Us poor folk slapped out 55 pizza for his daughters graduation Party another Beautiful day ! arrived 1:45 back in my driveway 6:15 !
No slipping in this time, just back in and turn oven jump the curb to face the action and whala Pizza !
The crowd went nuts with the product once again and the little oven that could  performed great. Dough was made Fri am so even better than Sat but a quite a bit warmer ambient temp so a touch more work !  I turned up the heat using fresh Imported DOP Smoked Bufala Mozz. Fresh roasted Garlic (big favorite) Craig/Motorino  inspired Brussel spouts and Pancetta, Hot sopressatta Hot sausage and Mike Hot Honey Yummu ..... I was able to keep up as everyone strolled over and ordered off the menu I had prepared. Great Party!! and a great Tip $!!  
Off til sunday after a round of golf today !
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Post by: JConk007 on June 25, 2012, 11:15:56 PM
yeah the 5 car garage is a dead giveaway right? Heres just a few of the pies.  I was  crankin!, so very little time and too much flour for the I - phone . I remember balking at Paulie Gees with all the bench flour everywhere and I am finding that this is the best way to really  produce! flour allover ! press 2-3 together at a time then slap... amazing how it speeds things up !
thats a homemade Pesto and Cherry tomatoes , and you all  know the other
I was told to " please stop you are killing me I cant eat another slice" asthey dove in to another creation LOL
also asked alot Saturday and sunday "where is your resturant we want to come and eat there" ???
still chasin that rainbow !! and a dream , and a little white ball !
John
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Post by: thezaman on June 26, 2012, 12:09:12 PM
john, another beautiful outing by the fwf crew. that house is a real dump.only a five car garage, most of the cars in my stable would be unprotected if i lived in that dive. :-D
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Post by: pizza dr on June 26, 2012, 04:22:14 PM
How in the world does a public servant afford a house like that?  Inheritance I suppose ;D

scot
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Post by: pizzablogger on June 26, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
Just killing it John!

Love it.

You appear to building a fine, and well deserved, reputation up there.

I'm guessing the mayor was formally a waste management consultant or a construction contractor?  ;)
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Post by: Chicago Bob on June 26, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
john, another beautiful outing by the fwf crew. that house is a real dump.only a five car garage, most of the cars in my stable would be unprotected if i lived in that dive. :-D
Oh well....I guess some people are able to get by with less. Poor Mayor!
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Post by: DNA Dan on June 26, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
John, is this a side hobby you do on weekends? Or did you quit your day job for this?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 26, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
First off let me say this this Mayor is one of the  most cool- down to earth guys I have met   ! Does the mayor thing to be a part of his own community
Nope Not in the the constuction or Disposal actually Global funds$! His other stable has 25 horses which his lovley wife  uses for training and thearaputic riding for the disabled.
Hobby no,  Passion yes! Just  Weekend warrior ! that is now turning down parties from double and triple bookings and back to back dates , why? because I want to keep it fun, and keep my family time which I also cherish ! quit my day job,are you kidding me?  :-D this is way too much work for a man of my age  ;) all this jumping around. If I had a brick and mortar maybe, just maybe I would consider it.This weekend coming up should be a hoot!  real Italian!  like Jersey housewives type shes great.Yellin at the dogs  gold leaf ceiling ....  kept saying aspet !  Hillarious, And yes this house is much bigger than the Mayors.  She says Shes Putting me on the hot seat! Has alot of friends coming sunday who have lived in Naples and now here in Jersey. Cant wait to hear these real time reviews I am nervous but confident and excited
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on June 26, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Those pies of yours keep getting better and better. Love that sprout pie!!!  :-D

I want to get up there again and try your pies.

CL
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Post by: JConk007 on June 26, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
Thanks Craig ! with the limitationns of my oven and simple recipe no starter .... I feel I am close to where I want to be. pie wise. Since the spring with the fork mixer and solid formula ( and some knowledge and experience) I feel my pizzas have been much more  consistent, last 5-6 outings for sure! Thats really what I am after, Consistency so if somone shows up that tasted from another party they say Oh yeah thats it!  Not so easy with all the variables of mobile operation ambient temp#1  But learning all the time !
John
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Post by: JConk007 on July 01, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
OK so I turned down Saturday and thank god 99 degrees and humid. !! >:D too dang hot for a passion !
But did do today wonderful party drive way Set up, which I love! simple quick and firm.
In attendance were several people who lived in Naples! ans several others whowere from Italy! They payed me the ultimate comment and told me  I did pefect  representation of  Neapolitan Pizza! I was beeming  ;D they barely spoke English and I Had all the answers pizza wise and history wise. thanks Omid!! They loved  simple Margarita and said it was Just like Home !! Beeming again. 1 lady said seriously John Best she ever had !! wow !! I inquired as to which pizzeria (besides where his brother worked!) in Naples was his favorite and was told there are just too many good ones . I mentioned Da Michele and he said not his favorite by any means. Was impressed with the slap technique and all . This guy knew his pizza !! and I did not disappoint  , whew!
Heres the set up
oh Steve it poured rain and hail after about 35 pizzas!! Was able to finish out no problem after the storm.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 01, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
Did you notice the fans, bottom left and behind the launch peel they saved our  @$ !! and worked like a champ! We had 1 on Il fornio  (oven guy? someone help me out with the Italian here)  and 1 fan on rotating mode  moving the air perfect !! prep table area.
Here is  me and my squash  florettes pie! daily special, fresh from the garden with marinated garlic and oil   :chef:
 John
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Post by: buceriasdon on July 01, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
John, Squash blossom pies are at the top of my list when they come in season here, and I have to say that is beautiful example of one.
Don
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Post by: JConk007 on July 01, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Thank you Don ! The blossom pie was a winner ! did 3 of them ! Hope all is well with your new venture as well!
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Post by: bakeshack on July 02, 2012, 06:25:51 AM
John, I love how your pies get better every time especially the crust, and to think that you are doing more and more pies lately.  Did you change anything with your dough formulation and method ? 

Marlon
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Post by: JConk007 on July 02, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
Same methods Marlon,
Just gaining experience with fermentation and temp control on the job. I don't do any fancy starters poolish ... gotta be spot on and I only get 1 shot.  If my prep area is too hot I cannot go 12-17 hrs. bulk room so I extend (don't shoot me Scott ) the fridge time to 2 days plus. I do have another job, which limits my control time, and I don't have  nice little cooling  chambers  at 65 degrees to store/control  80- 100 dough balls, so the only option is the fridge :(  for the summer season only I promise !! I take them out 2-3 hours pre bake  and really watch the way they come along temp wise. I usually start with around 24 balls 3 racks  as close to room temp as possible is preferred, add flame and room temp thats the leapording. IMO - But, when the  top rack room temp ball#24 getting close to blown sometimes slip back into prep table and grab out another to get it started, its a crazy system I  have to pay close attention to or  at 95 degrees  you are stretching soup. and too cold is a nono. I could not do this without the prep table!!  I also dropped from 62% to 60% for the summer with the  high humidity ... til next week !!
ciao!
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Post by: norma427 on July 02, 2012, 08:41:39 AM
John,

Your set-up and pies look fantastic!  ;D I enjoy reading about your adventures and looking at your pictures.  Great Job!  :chef:

Norma
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Post by: Ev on July 02, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
John,

 Looks great, as always!
Sorry you had to deal with a storm. Looks like you were able to cope with that well enough. ;D

 If I ever get the Airstream rolling, I'll just have to close the windows when the storms roll in! :-D
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Post by: TXCraig1 on July 02, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
OMG that squash blossom pie looks good!
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Post by: JConk007 on July 02, 2012, 08:25:02 PM
Thanks all !!
Steve it actually hailed pretty big for a bit hope the airstream doesnt mind a battering now and again :)
wild strom blew right through in anbout 10 min  got soaked ,cooked more, went home.... to dry out the goods! good news it got me out of there in 2 hours. Same price $
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Post by: JConk007 on July 07, 2012, 03:10:28 PM
YeaHa ! My first news bleep !! ;D  - kinda cool  - 28,000 person local audience!
http://mahwah.patch.com/articles/pizza-on-the-go-resident-opens-mobile-pizzeria
john
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Post by: norma427 on July 07, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
John,

Congrats!  :chef: :pizza:

Norma
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Post by: deb415611 on July 07, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
Very cool John! 
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Post by: Pete-zza on July 07, 2012, 03:52:48 PM
John,

That is a very nice article. Way to go.

Peter
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Post by: flyboy4ual on July 07, 2012, 05:17:48 PM
John,

Great article!  It is awesome to see how well you are doing and that people are taking notice!  I would love to come work a party with you some day and see what it is all about.  Maybe when I have a 24 hour layover someday.

Scott D.
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Post by: jeff v on July 07, 2012, 10:55:34 PM
You did good John!
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Post by: JConk007 on July 07, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
Thanks all !!
Very cool indeed. By 2 oclock I had 2 parties booked from this story!! I put an ad on Patch as well for a few bucks it a cool techy way to reach my immediate target market . Amazing how fast word travels.
Did a Great little 40 pie OPO (other people oven) today. Pizza Was a huge success in the small barrrel oven. I have to say as long as you focus on the fire and temp  this lttle guy can crank em out ! I had no help , had to walk from prep are to oven and wrapped it up including the 4 nutella  pizzas in about 3 hourd total. Fun people today ! another  great Day!  ~ :chef:
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Post by: DNA Dan on July 08, 2012, 12:31:32 AM
Time to quit your day job....a life of persistent pizza perfection awaits.
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Post by: thezaman on July 08, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
john, wonderful article. i do not see you staying with your day job long enough to retire. i see you in your dream endeavor. a wood fired pizzeria!!!!   
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 08, 2012, 12:14:52 PM
All this and no starter....hmmm....quite inspiring...
You seem to be a really likeable guy John and your setup has a nice clean professional look to it...and the pies, well, they certainly back up the whole package. With this, I'm sure, you'll go far...as they say.
Congrats on the saweet article!

Bob
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Post by: cnkymnky on July 08, 2012, 01:08:05 PM
       Congratulations John, that is so awsome! You deserve it. Hard work and dedication will always pay off with great results. One can tell by the smile on your face in the photos that you are indeed doing what you love. I truely hope that one day you can make it your full time source of making a living if that is what your heart desires. I certainly believe you have the heart and passion to make it happen if you so choose. Your living my dream John, it gives me hope for the future. 43 days and counting and I'm a nervouse wreck :o
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Post by: weemis on July 09, 2012, 09:51:22 AM
It's amazing what a little publicity can do! Oh, the power of media! Good for you, sir! Keep smilin... keep slingin!
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Post by: The Gizz on July 09, 2012, 11:19:51 AM
Great Work John.....Wonderful Article  :)
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Post by: parallei on July 09, 2012, 03:35:56 PM
You got a great write-up there John.  Congratulations!  All your hard work has paid off.

(The pies look great too. :chef:)
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Post by: wheelman on July 09, 2012, 10:17:21 PM
hell yeah! 
bill
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Post by: Pizza De Puta on July 15, 2012, 01:07:45 AM
Thank you for all your information, John!  Your posts read like a journal and allows the reader to walk a mile in your shoes.

May I ask how much you are charging the public at your venues?  I know others have stated their cost is in the $2.50 - $4.00 range, it would be nice to know the other half of the equation.

How do the private parties work are they priced per ball used or a flat rate or . . . ?
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Post by: JConk007 on July 15, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
I price per person, or per event.. I dont count people there I trust there are being honest and I know in the end if I bring 1 pie per person should be a few leftover. I did alot of research on pricing Many are at Lump sum $1250 for 40 people. I struggled a bit to get that when starting out. So Charge now $17 -$22 per head, for the entire experience. I have a breakdown I show people if they are shocked bt the price to back up my pricing and dont mind sharing because they donrt see the all behind the scenes work !Minimum 15 + hours time for me per party 25-50 people + this + that = .... I Have a minumum of $750 to leave the driveway and there is $150 Mobilization/set up fee. This part is my negotiating tool. Some people bark about $500 bucks for pizza and I inform them of the Dominoes sale of $7.99 for a large  ;D  Others will throw you $1200 bucks like its a cup of coffee.
Its worth every penny of what we charge in this business, and I will say itagain do it because I love it. I have turned down a few parties where they Offered me $700 bucks (and you will gt  alot of Business Line) it just not worth giving up my family time, which I happen to love also. Beauty is I can wait til somone "wants" the experience because I have paid for everything and its Part time. If I was making payments or full time I would do weekday specials and work for lesss to make some real income.  It is possible full time. A fellow operator with 2 ovens did 45 events in June  do the math at minimum $750 each that works for most  :pizza:
John
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Post by: scott123 on July 15, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Others will throw you $1200 bucks like its a cup of coffee.

I did catering in the Madison/Chatham/Summit area a while back (average house value in Summit is $1 million).  I was constantly amazed by the number of clients that, when you'd tell them the total price (for $500-$1000 orders), they'd just say "oh, yeah, whatever."  When I go shopping at the supermarket, I know exactly how much each item is going to cost, and, if it doesn't scan correctly, I'm on my way to customer service for a full refund.

Pizza De Puta, I talked about it a little bit in your intro thread, but, even if you're throwing $700 events, you need a pretty wealthy area.  John makes phenomenal pizza, but I not sure he'd be doing the same amount of business in the kind of economy you'll find in a place like Stockton.
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Post by: thezaman on July 15, 2012, 01:22:05 PM
 i have to say that the amount of work involved is staggering.and i find that customers are a little worried about their choice of say a wood fired pizza event vs. a barbeque catering. once their guests make positive comments about the pizza and uniqueness of the mobile pizza they loosen up and become much more relaxed. two weeks ago we did one for a guy that always uses a bbq guy for his catering .he had a few people that didn't like the idea ,buy ended up being very happy with what we were doing . the one said the set up was " the cats ass" which i think was positive. but as john has said if you are not putting a good amount of cash in your pocket forget it!!
 and scott you are right about the wealthy being a little tight. i think it has more to do with them being afraid they are being taken advantage of because of their prosperity. we need to make theses mobile gigs efficient to maximize profits.
 i like johns set up much better than mine because he can do it all with one vehicle.my set up takes two.
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Post by: Pizza De Puta on July 16, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
Thanks for the great responses!  Wow $1250 for 40 people, that's about double what I figured you'd get, but hey, more power to you!! :D  I read a catering book that said that the most common mistake for new start ups is not charging enough.  $1250 is definitely fair for all the effort and equipment (like that $5000 mixer) that are essential to running your business.  I love the Domino's Pizza referral, too!  When you go to a street fair or a farmer's market, John, do you serve 12" pies?  And what do you charge per pie at these type of events?

Scott, you are correct about Stockton, it's a big ghetto.  However, we live 30 miles away and there are many people and wineries within 50 miles that have plenty of big houses and money.  I believe we have one guy in our county doing Mobile WFO.  He was at our local airport appreciation day making 8" pies and sold out at 250.  For some reason though, I think he only charged six bucks.

My spouse, who is a gourmet chef, and I are going to attend a three hour quickie seminar this Friday put on by Mugnaini.  We own a couple of non-food Internet retail businesses with our three grown sons but we need to branch out and get into a business that has a few more barriers to entry.  We have MBAs so we know the risks versus reward stuff.  I like the numbers that some are reporting, as well as, the fact that I LOVE pizza.  I think I would most enjoy the challenge of setting up a commissary and dialing-in the precision necessary for the recipe to succeed.  Our ranch currently has an unused 1200 sq ft metal building which would make one hell of a kitchen.  All it takes is money.  However, we are still in the early information gathering stage and are having fun learning.   We recently took a "field trip" to Pizzaiolo's in Oakland and watched them do their thing along with asking a lot of questions.

The biggest challenge I can see so far is getting all the permits and trying to get someone to tell us what will be required as far as facilities, equipment and inspections.  I know for certain that a mobile sink and a screen enclosed work station at the events are mandatory here.  I believe a professional kitchen outside the home is also the law.  I'm not certain how the WFO could be affected by our frequent "No Burn Days" antipollution laws, either.

Thanks again for sharing.

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Post by: kwm on July 16, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
I tried to attend that one day seminar but it was full.  I would love to here how you liked it.  Please keep us up to date.  Also I just sent you a personal message and would like to stay in touch.

thanks
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Post by: pizzablogger on July 16, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
i have to say that the amount of work involved is staggering.

That's a point that cannot be emphasized enough to people considering doing a mobile pizza operation of some type....particularly if they already have a full time job and are only going to be doing the pizza on weekends or part-time. Doubly so if you are going to be the primary or only person doing the pre-event work.

By the time going out to buy ingredients, cleaning, prepping, packing, putting on the event, unpacking and cleaning is done, many hours have gone by. Time away from family hurts.

Definitely a litmus test for how deep passion runs, that's for sure. --K
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Post by: Pizza De Puta on July 16, 2012, 01:35:17 PM
I have a teacher friend who helped his wife run a catering business, he said the routine was something like this:

Friday:  Out of school at 3 pm, arrive at commissary by 4 pm, prep till midnight.

Saturday:  Up at 5 am, finished prepping and load for event.  Set up and serve event. Packup and after event at about midnight.

Sunday:  Drag self out of bed and wash dishes at commissary all day.

Monday:  Up at 6 am, teaching little monsters by 7 am.

Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 16, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
 :-D yep sort a
Not quite that bad but close for me its about 15 hrs total  time all said and done, Just to show up and make 40 pizzas. In the groove now and going smoothly. Happy with proceedures and profits.  Turning down work for price  or double request  (3 so far !) still cause me Pain . But I will allways be on the J O B .  Organization and implementation are Paramount !
John
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 16, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
What does "double request" mean... that they've asked you again to do it at the reduced fee?
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Post by: cnkymnky on July 16, 2012, 08:19:03 PM
pretty sure he means he was asked to do a gig on a date that he already had one booked :D
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Post by: JConk007 on July 16, 2012, 10:19:41 PM
Yep you got it Chnky!  This Saturday is a repeat customer and the price is more than doubled. Customer had no problem and stated " what you do and and your product is worth every Bit"  this is from a business owner who is on the if you cant get what you need then just move on many will see the value of the "experience" This attitude brings out the fiore di latte, Brussel spouts, Bacon Jam, Nutella .... Makes for a great day ! OH yeah  Paid in full already !!
I agree also with whats been said about the big guns $$  and you cant just assume they will pay whatever you want. The Mayor gig, and the big Mansion  I was fair and exactly where I should be! I brought extra made em all and never asked for a dime. Result -There was a handsome tip for my generosity and everyone was quite happy   (OK, when I saw the gold leaf going up in the study price went up a just a bit ;))  I am NOT at $1250 for 40 people yet. But I have been able to get there a few times. I have been wanting to get into a very exclusive local neighborhood less than 5 miles from me where home start at $1.5 M and go to ??? ? Lets just say a few are well over 15,000 sf, Got the call last night and booked for Aug 19 th and again I will be fair they need good pizza too ! Repeat Business is real winner so I want to be back Save the advertising, Guess work, sales pitch ...  I know what the local caterers charge so I refer to that and the fact I spent $17 per kid at my daughters birthday Party to make a chocolate Lollipop. Most moms can relate to that ! its all how you present it and not demand it. Work with them they work with you !
one more thing -
Don't every forget where  and how you started  ! and Pizzamaking.com!
ciao
John
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 16, 2012, 11:01:15 PM
John, could you please try an talk a 'lil faster, I mean,like, you're kinda holding up the show here my man!     :-D
Sounds and looks like you're having a great time...we're all having a ball watching you succeed....
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Post by: JConk007 on July 17, 2012, 12:13:41 AM
Sorry Bob  could it be a Jersey thing  :-[ Linda fast paced around here.
Enjoy sharing and hearing feedback good and bad lots of people send a pm or 2 to get some inside info I figure of I put most of it out here that's a few less emails to tackle. I don't  mind and all ways encourage anyone interested to go for it. I have met some great people thru pizza  and most important spread the knowledge of the fabulous pizza napoletana!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on July 22, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
Me again !  ;D what a perfect day  saturday was for a pizza Party low 70 's not too crazy and niceeasy driveway set up !  arrive 40 pies including 6 nutella  in  11:30 and out 3:30 pm  sweeet ! once again a side mount oven would not have worked just not enough room here . But slipped in end of driveway steps from the  big party tent you can see it i the backgroundand banged em out ! Nice tight effeciant set up, (see steps on L in pic#1)  just the 2 of us. I made my own Margherita to test the product   :chef:
John
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Post by: JConk007 on July 22, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
Niceand slow after initial rush so I did some cool pies for the crowd. But first off I served the queen ! The guy from Texas ! loved the Bacon with DOP smoked Mozz. ate 2 of them ! and the other is a Tomatoe Garlic and Pancetta
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Post by: JConk007 on July 22, 2012, 10:03:32 PM
Oh this was a first I have seen it in the NY slice joint so after walking past the buffet I figuresd what the heck !
Penne Meatball fresh Parm. Reggiano  Mrs. P make a mean Meatball!!
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Post by: CJ on July 23, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
John-looks great
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Post by: TXCraig1 on July 24, 2012, 04:37:55 PM
Oh this was a first I have seen it in the NY slice joint so after walking past the buffet I figuresd what the heck !
Penne Meatball fresh Parm. Reggiano  Mrs. P make a mean Meatball!!

Did you see this?

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2012/07/daily-slice-mulberry-street-pizzeria-los-angeles.html?ref=title
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Post by: JConk007 on July 24, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Thanks Craig!  no I did not see that  >:D But I do see it offered quite a bit around  NJ. I will add the Riccotta next time. I was  Happy with the Margherita also. Big one thursday 65 people My tnnis club again on the beach! forecast is @#!$!  :'(
JOhn
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Post by: thezaman on July 25, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
 don't know about that one?? your dough looks  beautiful as usual!!
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Post by: Woodfiredovenpizzero on July 27, 2012, 12:00:55 AM
Those pizzas are as good as always John. Never get tired of those pictures. If I want to do the mobile oven gig I'm going to need a larger oven. Perhaps next year for me.

Edgar
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Post by: kwm on July 28, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
John,
As I recall you inquired about that concession sink.  Well I just finished mine and it came out great and works even better.  I did change it up from the plans by putting it on (in) and rolling cart.  It turns out it was cheaper than the material to build the cabinet.   It was pretty easy and did not take long.  Two of the steps required silicon and I had to wait half a day for it to dry.  It would have been a 1 day job if it were not for that.
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Post by: cnkymnky on July 28, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
That looks awsome Kevin, when are you gonna build one for me ;D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 28, 2012, 07:45:11 PM
Very nice DIY project Kevin. Mind sharing the build cost on that pro looking unit please? Thanks.
ps, battery for pump and heater ignition?
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Post by: kwm on July 28, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
$300 for sinks pump and heater
$60 cart
$30 5 gal fresh and 7 gal gray tanks
$50 plumbing (tubing, connectors, and adaptors)
$40 electrical (battery, switch, wires)
$30 misc; lumber, shelf paper, screws...etc

So right around $500


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Post by: kwm on July 28, 2012, 08:08:34 PM
Battery is for pump only.   Heater uses 2 size D batteries.
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 28, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
Teeeeen-fo. Thank you Kevin.....very nice, bout half price or 'lil better from what I've seen on the net.
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Post by: JConk007 on July 28, 2012, 09:24:55 PM
Thanks for posting Kevin sent you a PM. But now its Back on topic  ;)
Flirting with Fire - goes to the Beach!
Thursday PM  forecast = Strong (in red) thunderstorm advisory  ???
Club  party was a sign up event and I cut it off at 65 attendees (waiting list after I did this last year as well) This is the Lake area of my Tennis / Platform Tennis club here in Allendale NJ
WeSnuck in about 25 pizzas in an hour and then all hell broke loose!
winds whipped up everybody grabbed a little something and headed inside. I threw a few logs on covered up prep table and a few othe rgoodies and headed in . Good news I had the local Wine and spririt world there for a wine  sampling as well ! so after testing 3 or 4 (or 5 or 6) the rain slowed to a springlke in about 20 minutes I headed out put 1 tent back up over the prep area and commenced to Baking we pulled it off!! The light show was amazing just 8 -1000's away! Did all 60 pizzas and 65 very happy people ( and 4 soaked people :)) really was not that bad. Cleanup was a bear but the show must go on ! No guilt on this paycheck ! no more pizza pics as I mentioned earlier. I think you all are getting burnt out on them.
Few of the set up pre- party and my trainee who is going back to college  :'( this kid has been a tremduos help and has not missed 1 party ! So great to have someone who knows where things go, and has the gumption to move all the goodies on and off the truck. A BIG big part of this business beyond the pizza.
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Post by: thezaman on July 29, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
john, i love your setup. did you get to cook or was it a rain out?
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Post by: JConk007 on July 29, 2012, 02:18:30 PM
Yes Larry I detailed  in above post  ??? 54 pizzas and 6 nutella won't bore you with the pics anymore
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Post by: thezaman on July 30, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
john, you need to send pics, as you can tell i only skim the text. unless,their are beautiful pizzas to be seen so please include pics.
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Post by: Ev on July 30, 2012, 11:11:09 PM
+1   More Pics!! ;D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 31, 2012, 08:50:12 AM
+2 More Pics!!   ;)
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Post by: weemis on July 31, 2012, 09:39:03 AM
+3!  :pizza:
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Post by: pizza dr on August 02, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
+5

Love to hear your stories and see some pics... one of my favorite threads on this site. 

Scot
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 10:17:56 PM
I love a forecast for  Possible thunderstorms all day with a large gig starting at 12:30 !! 3 drops at 10 am and then could not have asked for a nicer day !! well 10 degrees coooler would have been nice. With out the  fans ?? yikes! However I obtained some new toys last week for Flirting with fire .
A new van and a new larger Tent / Canopie  Both are stellar!
first the van- When I started I had no Idea just how much crap youare required to bring along to pull this business off. I thought Well a truck , some dough balls. little sauce and cheese  good to go  NOT!
Without going into detail a cargo van is a superior vehicle for this business. It does not make you money the oven does. Does Advertise nicley as well. plan to turnit over to  picaso soon !  But after doing this for a year now, a near miss on the prep  table a few weeks back, and looking like Sanford and Sons rolling in with peels, ramps   and extension cords sticking out all over, well you get the idea. After exhustive search I  came up with this guy a 5.4 V-8 thre on a class V 10,000 lb hitch and a few shelves inside ..... Life is good ! Why the hell did I  wait so long. ? no more strapping down covering up...  plenty of storage for back up everything from table covers to towels, plates and olive oil ..just a much better option !! care to guess what year ? I LOVE IT  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 10:21:38 PM
Heres the tent. a 10X 10 provides shade when sun  is directly overhead problem - I never cook at noon this is 10X 15 so that extra 50% does wonders with the setting sun, I also selected graphics based on the Business after searching,  Final cost  +same as my 10 X10 !! thats the other blue one (original)  in the pic above
much cooler looking agreed?
John
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 10:24:53 PM
FLAMES what else   >:D
OK heres a few pies from today BUt only doing a few pics  as requested
Margherita for Larry and a Brussell Sprout C/O TXcraig  That was the Pie of the day did about 5 of them they LOVED that guy!
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Post by: PizzaPolice on August 11, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Sweet tent.  That'll keep you out of the rain.
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 11, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
 care to guess what year ? I LOVE IT

1999   ;)
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
More for the sun see the guy above standing on the right buy prep table ? img. #901 sun line on his foot ? take away 5 ft above  and both those guys are cookin ! Sign of a good business is constant attention to detail and I dont mind  putting money into the Business I love.  You cant just take take.  I paid for both of these upgrades today  100%!!   :P

John
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 10:47:23 PM
yeah a real rust bucket Bob
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Post by: TXCraig1 on August 11, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
You better be careful. FWF is going to become a real business.  :-D
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Post by: JConk007 on August 11, 2012, 11:03:05 PM
 Yeah kinda fun still ! real?  or just a dream ? I am still pinching and people are not asking anymore telling me I should open?    Must admit  I am becoming quite fond of that  sprout pie !
J
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Post by: weemis on August 13, 2012, 10:17:39 AM
Congratulations on the van! Makin it easier is the name of the game!
And now everything under the tent is red. You're in the fiery pits, John. Fitting!

I just picked up some artisan dough trays from doughmate.com. thanks for being the inspiration. makin it easier!

keep on rockin, sir!
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 13, 2012, 11:20:39 AM

And now everything under the tent is red. You're in the fiery pits, John. Fitting!



keep on rockin, sir!
That new tent is a hoot!
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
A classic stone driveway, an old farmhouse, and some great pizza ! as promised no boring pizza shots
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Now as for the new Van It rocks! after just a few outing I cant believe I did not convert earlier . Why? well nobody with the exception of Jay J was really posting about the mobile WFO bus and even those who did did not speak much of the tow vehicle ? or just how much crap you  have to lug around in this mobile business!  ;) anyway thats why I am here,  to freely share my experience and help anyone who has questions or thinks they might like to do what they love! I have helped many and get constant emails. a thanbks is all I look for (ok maybe a tool order  :-D)  seriously I do what I can for everyone, as  I remember working very hard to get the answers to a few of my simple questions. I recieve a ton of emails about how do I .... and I am Happy to  guide and recommend  to a point. However its like asking for a recipe to make pizza here. ya  gottta do some research I only did  a years worth !  :o
the firewithin I think charges  $250 bucks for the rolling in the dough book  Hmnn??? ???
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
The Prep table dance ...
piece of cake almost just a 1 guy job , using the same 10ft  foldable split ramp that slide righ in in front of table, so yes  GET A VAN! or a box truck with a  power lift gate ! thats next !! ps tows like   a dream 5.4l V-8
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 20, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Is that an old paddywagon?  Ahhh...the memories..... >:D
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
Voted nicest pizza day so far. :P  I am training a new guy, as my college helper is leaving  sept 3rd  so #1  I had extra set of hands  tghe weather was perfect ! dough was spot on 12 hr bulk rise at 62 then bsall fridge overnight out at 8:30 for a 1 oclock bake  perfect!
Nice hard driveway , back her right in with vinny he van. and room to roam under the spacious new 10X15 tent. Very exclusive community with homes from $ 1Mil to $8mil and more Yes more !Very cool people too !  I took the Mercedes for  the Parmigiano reggiano I forgot   ;D   all good !! a few notes the flames on the oven help cook pizza faster,cool GI tool stand,  and the new tee shirts, for the crew   :chef:
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Happy with the way the Set up is coming together. There were the Pizza and said "I am not leaving this table !" fun afternoon and home by 5pm does it get any better ? the preptable full of goodies cheese bucket has DOP Somked Buffalo Mozz. ,(on left.) fiore di latte (rt) and the fresh Mozz .  and the dough was doughlicious!
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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 10:16:17 PM
OK just a few pizza shots
before and after of the DOP Buffalo Smoked Mozz. ( hey this was the high rent district!)  a Sausage and Black olive and ... The Meatza  Hot sopressata, sweet italian sausage, pepperoni and Mikes hot Honey !
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 20, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
Wooo hooo!! Go get'em John.....pies look good.

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Post by: JConk007 on August 20, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Just Maybe you should go try and make a pizza Bob ? its fun too.
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Post by: Jet_deck on August 20, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
I want a Meatza with fungi.  But they are all top shelf. :chef:
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 20, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
Just Maybe you should go try and make a pizza Bob ? its fun too.
I have always complimented your work John...I'm sorry if you don't like my type of humor on your thread, I've been blown off before in much less classier ways so, no hard feel'ins, kay? I have tried to make some pizzas and you are right...it was fun too.  ;)
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Post by: JConk007 on August 21, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
No harm no foul Bob! I'm not Hatin nor blowin you off. I have been kicking around for a few 24s and enjoy some good humor now and again. The Paddy wagon was very cute! Pretty funny stuff ! I was just curious if you make pizza? :pizza:  just seems no matter what some people post you are quick jump on it. Not saying that in a bad way either Bob.  I just want people to know a van works well for this, thats all. Working hard and sharing what I learn along the way. I am no where near retired to  NC yet  :'( was  Kinda hoping for a- John, nice of you to share your thoughts and Ideas, but hey I understand maybe I post too much stuff so I will cut back now, I promise. I'll just lurk.  Have a good night! Thanks again for sharing
John
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Post by: thezaman on August 21, 2012, 12:22:24 AM
 john, i want to see your shirts up close.i like the way the van is set up. you can carry spares of everything you need for a job,plus some
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Post by: Jet_deck on August 21, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
I swear that Craig and I will fly back to NY (at his x pense, any put all these rumors to hush) and not withstanding the minor event I created at Security....

John is a straighup pizza guy.  Have you seen the pics of the pizzas coming out of his oven?
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Post by: JConk007 on August 21, 2012, 12:38:49 AM
yes Larry!  Extra stock - everthing from Paper towels  to containers to pizza cutters and even tomatoes  its great ! and its enclosed ! so no need for a garage thats the best part.  I could not leave table on truck outside fear of rain and sun would ruin it. Well all I can say for now my monthly posting  limit is now up. see you in September.  
Thanks Gene ! sure your pizza  will be equally impressive in a very short period of time  !
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Post by: TXCraig1 on August 21, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
I always get a good chuckle when I see your pies. There is just something humorous about the fact that if you want the best pies in NJ, you can't go to any restaurant. You have to call John and hope he can fit you in.
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Post by: JConk007 on August 29, 2012, 01:09:43 AM
Thanks Craig! Doin the best I can with my little mobile  and still lovin it!
someday - I  will have a real oven ! wether its on a trailer, in a truck, or in a shop has yet to be determined. Heck, maybe I will even try to activate a starter sometime ???
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Post by: JConk007 on September 02, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Flirting With "Four Grande Mere !"
Before I left on Vacation to Park City I had the pleasure if finally cooking in a Brandy new Four Grande Mere  950B. Thats the brick finish low dome (9") with a  37.5" floor/cooking surface.
Robyn, you are one lucky devil to have this oven in your home! This was the Maiden voyage for this oven and I must say it performed beautifully! It Felt very solid  (mass) and I liked thecooking tiles.A really nice balance of top and bottom heat once the whole unit was up to temp. over 1.5 hrs to get there. Its not a Stefano or a acunto but I must say it blows away my mobile forno bravo ?
This great guy found me at a party I did earlier this year about an hr from my Base. We chatted a few times and he booked me for his party about 3 months ago (almost forgot!) He  asked for a recommendation as he was wanting to build a WFO. I recommend the FGM as I believe I did to Robyn and the rest was history! This oven is on wheels!  it is NOT a barrel oven, just a shell over the dome and insulation.  his mason picked that shape to make it easy to finish for him on time. He picked up the oven and I helped with any questions and got him his GI tools. A happy new WFO addict is born!
I used my same dough and did 65 pizzas in about 2 hours for his crowd. many pizzeria owners , and a  well know "brick oven " pizzeria manager were all blown away by the product. I only had my 1 new helper so not much time for pictures  after the set up sorry.
A+ for this Oven  for sure! If I had to do it again with a similar budget to the earthstone forno bravo  wildwood... My money goes here for sure!
I hope to Maybe help Antione with some future events and sell these beauties when I can  as well. Easy to  to push for something you believe in even after just 1 bake.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 02, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
used the old 10ft tent on set up, on his new patio and it worked out quite well. Thats the Happy new owner Rick who I am sure we will see on the forum soon!
John
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Post by: Jet_deck on September 02, 2012, 11:27:14 PM
Nice pie.  Glad you were excited. :chef:
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Post by: Pete-zza on September 03, 2012, 09:40:47 AM
It is fascinating to me to see the step-by-step evolutionary path that some of our members take from their day jobs or careers to becoming pizza professionals. It is though the path is preordained and inexorable and once set in motion cannot be stopped no matter how much effort is put into resisting it, much like a moth being drawn to the flame. Query: Who's next?

Peter
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Post by: RobynB on September 03, 2012, 01:49:01 PM
Boy, his floor sure came out nice!!  Wonder what was wrong with ours...  Oh well, I love our custom floor.  So Antoine can order the "B" ovens?  I saw on his website that he stocks only the "C"s.  Glad to hear of another happy owner, and yes, we still love ours and are grateful to you, John, for recommending it.  You probably didn't actually measure his floor - ours is closer to a full 39 inches, almost 40".  I wonder if his is too?  Thanks for the update, John!!
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
@ Peter , If you are saying I am a professional, thank you  I really appreciate it! If there is a semi pro weekend warrior I opt for that.  At this point you are correct there is no stopping! ;D except for a little 6.5 year old ! I will not give up my family for  brick and mortar pizza business at this point in life.  (and with the other job I have)  I have looked ;) and probably should never say never However  after reading and speaking to Many pizzeria owners and operators its a tremendous commitment in time no matter the $$ or Passion.  My pizzas pale in comaprison to many here on the forum but its hard to be spot on doing "production" well 50-75 pies each time I miss the onesy- 2zy sometime and have only used my earthstone 4 times this year !  :'(
@ Robyn yes the floor was perfect ! I never even tough to ask how it went in or worked out and yes, it seemed to be as big as my mobile 40" and you really don't notice the dome height while cooking. Owner is a fireman  (chief?) and everybody that was there was really happy watching the low rolling flames
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on September 03, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
except for a little 6.5 year old !

My dilemma as well.
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 03, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
That is a great looking oven! And its on wheels? Is it in NJ?
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
yep its on 4 Casters, and 4 people can push it  around 

Craig  yes Family first, #1. Pizza a very close second  :pizza:
very happy with 1-2 days per weekend or less, remeber this has all paid for itself  already  ;D
Oven, truck/van, mixer....  now its time to save for the Italy trip!  gonna be a good one!
John
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Post by: scott123 on September 03, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
Boy, his floor sure came out nice!!  Wonder what was wrong with ours...

Maybe FGM read your post and fixed their floor tiles  ;D As much as I think, right now, FGM is the oven to get, after seeing the tiles they gave you, I think replacing the tiles should be a forgone conclusion on any newly purchased FGM.

Nice job, John.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2012, 06:48:36 PM
Scott These are very nice ovens I must say you would love it at a very similar price point I think I would go this way as well. They lok as good as they cook too! I will ask  if there were any issues with the floor. He asked me alot of questions during the install but the floor never came up? and I forgot the issues Robyn had.  I am assuming it went in without a hitch. Nice thick tile for sure !
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 03, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
John: Was this oven made in NJ (Im in NJ)? I really like the look of that oven and I value your opinion about the results coming out of it. Besides the obvious, was there a reason he had the oven built on casters? What is the cost for something like this? Thanks in advance!

Chaz
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
Chaze yes its in Rahway NJ by way of Maryland.
Hewas just not sure whatkind of Patio space he was going to end up with so went mobile. Nor something you want to push around often but does move will probably find a final resting spot when outdoor kitchen is done FYI he has about $6-7000K? into this beauty  all said and done. Not too bad for this quality. I can get you pricing or you can talk to Antione about the Ovens he has them in stock as far as I know.
john
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Post by: breadstoneovens on September 06, 2012, 03:23:29 PM
Thank you John for the nice comments  :-[

To answer Robyn's ( and others ) question on the floor, I have not had any issues with any oven's floor, however I brought it up to the FGM owner's attention. He told me that he bought and took over FGM about 7 years ago and for what I understood the oven Robyn got was ordered by the the distributor in CA about 10 years ago.
The new owner is committed to providing the best quality and has had some molds redone, back when he first arrived, as they didn't meet the quality standards.
In any case, should an oven be defective, the warranty will cover such issue.

Regarding the question for the oven mounted on wheels, attached is a picture of my latest creation. This is a 700 C Raised, mounted on a cart and fitted with multiple options such as a tool rack, an ash box and landing area/counter top in front of the oven. Such installation can be done for any residential oven and I am working on doing the same thing for a business who wants to move their oven inside during the winter and then outside when the weather allows.

Antoine
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Post by: JConk007 on September 06, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Nice Antione, I really enjoyed the 950B  as I mentioned.
 I think you should this post this over in your thread, someone already asked if this is what I have ? or you can give it to me for demo purpose! :) and I will answer all and any questions potential  north east buyers may have  ;D
I would  be proud to sell them  for you!
John
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Post by: Vinny G on September 08, 2012, 05:52:38 PM
Hello John, I'm new to the forum but have been following your thread for some time now and have been very impressed by your passion and the quality of the products you have been making.  Honestly, I check this thread almost daily to see if you have posted pictures of your operation and pies.  I honestly enjoy seeing the pictures of the setup and gigs you have had.  You truly are living the dream and I can tell by your smiles that you have not "worked" one day since owning the oven. I have made pizzas for about 10+ years from the age of 13 in pizzerias in Brooklyn and Manhattan, and loved making a quality NY pie. Left the pizza industry for the last 20 years and retired last year at the age of 44.  I moved upstate from Brooklyn in '94 and have been throwing around the idea of building a WFO in my yard for some time now, but have decided I may want to take it on the road one day so it looks as though I may buy a mobile oven to suit both needs.  I have contacted Peter from Fired Up and I may take a ride to see his Bedford operation.  Is there anything that you would recommend since operating one of his ovens for a good while now that you think I should look into as a first oven owner?  It will be a big difference for me going from making gas fired 18" pies at 550-600 degrees to 8" wood fired pies at 800 degrees!  Any advice will be helpful and hopefully you don't mind me reaching out to you.
Thank you, Vinny.
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Post by: rumper on September 09, 2012, 11:18:21 PM
Vinny if you retired at the of 44 then I think it may be you living the dream
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Post by: JConk007 on September 10, 2012, 12:30:27 AM
Vinny, Thanks for the kind words! I would be Glad to help. Where are you located in Upstate? I can tell you about the Bedford operation as thats where I went to see my first real mobile as well. If you have made that many pizzas I am sure you will pick it up very quickly. I may consider seling my baby for a touch larger size it  can put out some pretty good pizza for sure but I am getting pretty busy and may need to go  a bit bigger. Please keep my posted or feel free to ask any ?
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 10, 2012, 07:07:22 AM
Vinny, Thanks for the kind words! I would be Glad to help. Where are you located in Upstate? I can tell you about the Bedford operation as thats where I went to see my first real mobile as well. If you have made that many pizzas I am sure you will pick it up very quickly. I may consider seling my baby for a touch larger size it  can put out some pretty good pizza for sure but I am getting pretty busy and may need to go  a bit bigger. Please keep my posted or feel free to ask any ?
John

John: If/when you consider to sell, i would be interested. Im in NJ and would love to check out your operation when the time comes. Im very impressed and intrigued by your jump into the mobile business!

Chaz
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Post by: JConk007 on September 10, 2012, 08:32:16 AM
Chaze where in Jersey ?? I am in northern Bergen County but travel all over
John
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Post by: Vinny G on September 10, 2012, 08:37:44 AM
Thanks John, I am actually leaving in a few minutes to go see an oven at the Bedford location before it heads to it's new owner.  Peter is on a business trip but he put me in touch with his partner/brother John who does the fabrication and he invited me to see the oven up close and personal and to ask any questions about construction and such. I like to see a product I might purchase up close and personal rather than viewing pictures and catalogs.
I am located on the NY/NJ/PA border in the far end of northwest Orange Cty.  Probably passed your neck of the woods in Mahwah on Rt. 17 every day going from/to work. Thanks again for your help and I may be asking a few more questions in the near future about the behind the scenes aspect of the business, as I have been doing my homework the last few weeks and I hope to overcome some obstacles that may be in the way, so it's good to have a seasoned veteran who has done it before like yourself to get advice.
Thanks again, Vinny.  
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Post by: weemis on September 10, 2012, 09:17:38 AM
... so it's good to have a seasoned veteran who had done it before like yourself to get advice.

+100!
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 10, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
John,
You have always generously offered your help to all of us and I think that is so awesome.
I'd like to ask that you please keep me in mind also when/if you decide to sell. Or maybe at least put up a post- notice when you are ready. Thanks.
Bob
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Post by: JConk007 on September 10, 2012, 02:40:53 PM
G
Vinny  get some pics for me and email them to me at [email protected] chances are its the  pavesi brick finish oven he is sell which I think also think is very nice oven. I am interested in helping you make a knowledgeable descision on based on my experience,  as bob says I want to and glad to  help anyone considering this business. Glad you are not buying a fancy website. But there may be other options and considerations also available shortly.  that's why I ask you reach out to me in a pm or email
Thanks ,!
John
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Post by: Vinny G on September 10, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
Just got back and will send you off an email soon. Thanks sir.
Vinny.
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 10, 2012, 06:19:40 PM
Chaze where in Jersey ?? I am in northern Bergen County but travel all over
John

John: I am in Toms River. Do you ever make it down this far?
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Post by: JConk007 on September 10, 2012, 09:36:07 PM
Toms River Yacht  Club called for end of year event ! The new Scooby doo van will go anywhere they need some good  :pizza:
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 10, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Toms River Yacht  Club called for end of year event ! The new Scooby doo van will go anywhere they need some good  :pizza:
John

Nice! I am about 5 minutes from there. Do you have a date yet? How the heck did they find you all the way up in Bergen County?...lol
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Post by: acbova on September 11, 2012, 03:40:05 PM
Whoa! I still have my interest in your oven!  Dang John you are too popular!
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Post by: JConk007 on September 11, 2012, 11:09:47 PM
Its all word of Mouth !  :P  which comes back to Passion !
My supportive wife is in Marketing for Bayer Pharma and pushes what I enjoy when she gets time at her meetings! this is a friend of hers from the yacht club.
Tony - yes,  I did not forget you  you would have 1st option for helping me out ! and inquiring 1st
John
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Post by: weemis on September 12, 2012, 08:50:22 AM
fighting em of with a stick, john!
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Post by: Rick M on September 13, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
Hey John, i just finished reading all 24 pages in your forum, my eyes are burning.   I just made my 6th round of dough and still far from acceptable.   The one question I have for now with many more to follow is when you talk about over night fermenting, do you cover the batch with a dry towel, a wet towel or nothing at all?     When you refrigerate, what is the average temp. of the frig?  
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Post by: JConk007 on September 14, 2012, 01:20:10 AM
Rick , sorry for the burn :o
Bulk rise (big blob) room temp covered sealed in large buckets or if its 90-100 outside controlled in large cooler with few  Ice pack packs to keep it noore than 68-72   til doubled  7-17 hrs depending on blah blah blah call me :) ambient temp.... from There if its too warm and I need to go more than 1 day  I ball into trays and  put trays into fridge temp is around 41 degrees in there then min 4hrs room. I am picking up some of the douoghmate I will grab you 4? they hold 6  250 gram doughballs each and fit in standard fridge or the one on your Patio these are a must ! I will have em shipped right  to your house.
John
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Post by: JConk007 on September 14, 2012, 01:23:11 AM
Rick ,
we also need to get you a nice little spiral mixer I have The Mecnosud  IM5 and the IM8L available that does like 30 dough balls at a crack !    just a few left awesome machines and worth every penny !!
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 14, 2012, 01:29:55 AM
John, if you would...please pm your price on the mixer.( IM8L).
thank you.
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Post by: Rick M on September 14, 2012, 09:37:20 AM
Thanks John, I'm going to call you tonight about the mixer and also about an Italian Festival going on next month.  If your interested, I'll volunteer my time as your stick man.  I did my first new experiment a day and a half ago, different flour.  Farina 00  used the Lehmann calculator, cake yeast for the first time, rest for 15 min. balled into round metal containers, into 2 diff refrigerators.  One at 50 degrees, one a 35 (Wed 10:30PM).   This morning (Fri. 9AM) the 50 degree dough looks ready to use right away, but i guess if I took them both out at the same time, the 50 degree ones would probably raise too much and the 35 degree one will be right on target.   I'm willing to experiment and I know I have to long road ahead!

Talk to ya later,

Rick
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Post by: Bob1 on September 14, 2012, 01:15:07 PM
Rick,
John got me a Mecnosud IM5 and it is fantastic.  I wanted to try it out for a while before I posted, but since the subject came up I thought I would chime in.  I am sorry I did not get one earlier.  There is a huge difference in the quality of the dough.  It does not just mix it also aerates the dough properly.  The capacity is about 10 434 gram balls and I have been doing 6 ball batches.  The dough opens up on it's own weight and has no spring back.  I was also surprised at how easy it is to clean up.

Bob
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Post by: Bob1 on September 14, 2012, 04:46:39 PM
Here is a link to the IM5 for a picture and specs.
http://www.mecnosud.com/INGLESE/IM_1.asp

There is also a video of a small batch being made on UTube that shows it in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTmrH_Ni6nE

Here is a picture I took of a 6.73 lb batch I just made.  It is GM Superlative at 58% hydration, 2% Salt, 3% Oil for 6 minutes.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 15, 2012, 12:37:34 AM
WOW!! Very Nice dough loooks great !! There are a few of these left  at least 1 -8M and 1 or 2 IM5 if anyone is interested just let me know I will hook you up !  Rick M this is it !! Awesome machine !
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Rick M on September 15, 2012, 08:26:07 AM
Thanks for the info Bob & John, I guess that mixer will take out one of my dough woes.   The batch will be more consistant.
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Post by: Chaze215 on September 15, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
Those are some nice looking mixers and the dough made in them is even better! I think that would be an essential tool to have if you have to make a decent amount of dough. What do these beauties cost? The link given just shows a pic of the mixer. Thanks in advance!

Chaz
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Post by: JConk007 on September 15, 2012, 09:09:24 AM
PM me for pricing trying to keep this to FWF events and such.  I had posted over in equip for sale originally Bob did get mixer from me, andI asked for pics  Thanks for posting !!
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Post by: JConk007 on September 15, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Another OPO ( other people oven )party . Great set up I  consulted on the build and helped break in the oven tonight wasthe first pies too busy for pics 75 -100 woman running around for a Bachelorette  party! Lots of fun and some great lead tons of cards went out !!
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Post by: JConk007 on September 15, 2012, 09:23:52 AM
this was the mini barrel they cook quite well ! I could not get prep table  in so I whipped up this  prep rail in 15 min!! I just need to add a lid. I added insulation on the bottom and did it with 1 1X8X8  worked slick !! now I can cater smaller party with the dough bag (under table)  and the rail also new foldable chef table ( holding dough) very cool addition
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on September 15, 2012, 09:26:33 AM
John, you're killing us here...75-100 women and no pics?!   :'(
That does look like a nice setup though...efficient.
You seem to travel amongst a nice crowd. Good for you!
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Post by: scott123 on September 15, 2012, 09:32:35 AM
Magic John!

Did you dance for them?  ;D
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 15, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
UMM ytou dont ewant to see the pictures of thast scott but ??? you do what you have to for that tip you know !
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Post by: scott123 on September 15, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on September 15, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
UMM ytou dont ewant to see the pictures of thast scott but ??? you do what you have to for that tip you know !
Awwww...c'mon John.   It's your thread!   :-D
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Post by: JConk007 on September 16, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
Check out this new Foldable Chefs Table I scored at the container store! Its all about being efficient and "mobile" so I grabbed it at %25% off ! turns out to be a natural extension of my prep table and hold 84  dough balls underneath !!!  I have butcher block top for it and Marble top ! very sturdy! so I have room for 2 pizza makers! Can kick it up another notch now !!  Guess it does not take much to excite me huh ? But Gotta agree is cool can  use by the barbeque, outdoors, picnic... Or Mobile pizza ! Very cool !! I may go for a second wing off the otherside ?? Matching stainless ! no sanford and son set up here   :-D
John
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Post by: rcbaughn on September 17, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
Wow that table folds so flat. That must be really handy when storing it for transport. Does it have a pretty high weight rating? It looks sturdy.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on September 17, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
Cool as can be man, congratulations. Jus put someone on there opening doughs and you could go to town.  8)
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chaze215 on September 17, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
Thats a nice little addition to your set up John. When you have x amount of dough balls for a party, how do you keep them at the right temp the whole time in order to keep the pies coming at a steady pace?
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 17, 2012, 08:40:07 PM
That my friend is one of the great Mysteryies of the world !  ??? Seriously it has taken me a full year to figure out when to pull em form the fridge ,when/where  to place em how many? how  fast?  and when to use em...  This Just takes time its a look and touch thing a  constant dance with temp humididity :) and every other variable that effects dough  IT AINT EASY ! I am happy temps are stabilizing perfect pizza weather  62-68 dgrees all day ! no fridge no problems No blow outs ! when it gets too cold its reverse and hard to spread control.... you get the idea
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on September 17, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
John, I know you have your refer prep table....but is it not possible if one had a separate electric thermo control refer box dedicated for dough only, could you not then be able to maintain optimum dough temp no matter what the outside summer time temps are?  Thanks.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 17, 2012, 10:10:40 PM
yes bob of course, ideal.  but we are talking about holding 100-200 dough balls ! another van or refriderated box truck  perhaps ? you buyin? driving storin? kiddin
 Keeping cool is not really The Problem, problem is you want the dough as close to room temp 65 ish as possible when speading the variable is how long it takes to get there when you remove it from the fridge. make sense? if its 92 degrees outside with 81% humidity and I need 30 dough balls per hour and each tray hold 8 how long does it take to come to room temp  so if this big thermo something doughbox could maintain that type of temp 60-68  we  got it!  sure it could be done but that would take all the  fun out of it ! I know CRAIG !! get me a graph of when I should take tray out based on ambient temp (call it duration to perfect usabilty) assuming all the boxes are made of the same conductive material of course !
Stickin with Touch, feel look, take out when you think its gonna work and cross your fingers  so far so good ! these first few are ready to spread  last one needs another 1.38 hours @ 84 degrees  :-D
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 17, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
Saturday  party this guy keeps the pool at 90 degress til mid october ! His Birthday Party 
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Post by: JConk007 on September 17, 2012, 10:22:29 PM
even had time for a few pizza shots ! upon completion a tip was a very nice cu*#n cigar  !! Thats my Hell boy knock off  Hot Sopressatta, Pepperoni oozing with Mikes Hot honey
great pizza day I love this weather !!
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on September 17, 2012, 10:31:16 PM
Just trying to learn and prepare John. What I was envisioning for the "electric thermo control refer box " was maybe a unit a bit smaller than your prep table.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 17, 2012, 11:04:50 PM
Here to help Bob but remeber its about being compact and efficient anything extra has to be loaded , unloaded and oh yeah cleaned !!
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Jet_deck on September 17, 2012, 11:35:06 PM
http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,14533.msg211256.html#msg211256 (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,14533.msg211256.html#msg211256)

John, the pies look absolutely stunning. Top shelf, If I may say.  Your customers don't probably know how good they have it.  Keep the pics coming.
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Post by: thezaman on September 18, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
hi john, i have a couple of questions. what is your make and cut flow. i think i like it, do you make right to left, with the finished pie closes to the oven?the cooked pies go to the table on the oven left? also were do you keep your hand sink?  yes, i may steal your set up we will deal with it next week,if we get together.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 18, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Gene! Thanks ! They do often comment on how good it is so guess its not just me and my bias opinion . The ladies raved about it for sure and went nuts over the nutella!
Larry, you may steal ? I am sure you will! Well you already took the recipe, work flow ,logo.... What's left? A little setup help sure why not.
(You know I could care less I wish you all the best always you have been more than helpful on so many occasions with me !) we're A team fighting to keep the mobile Neapolitan alive and well NO BOBOLI!
Anyway
Setup completely  depends on the  space available or position of oven and I like the prep table to face the crowd and service table to view oven  if you look through thread it's left right ... I prefer if possible dough balls on left make toward the right on table then right side by service table displays toppings,  honey , truffle oil , EVOO nutella ...  onto peel with room to turn  and into oven. Yes from oven goes to cooling cutting table out of the way on left other then to front table for serving
Table is only 48 so make in middle reach each way
Grand theft pizza !  Let me know how it works you will be little limited with truck right ?
Ciao partner see you next week!
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Post by: JConk007 on September 18, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
oh the hand sink back of the oven soap attached to oven (with thing on oven is attachment)  and P- towel rack is portable  this set up is both Cut and serve on Left 10X15 tent ( yes I will tell you where to get it Larry of course !)  prep table to front  nothing on left its what worked for that  driveway be creative !!
John
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Post by: Vinny G on September 19, 2012, 02:13:49 PM
John, you really do have a very professional, neat, and productive work area.  Everything absolutely has the look and touch of a first class operation all the way. If you ever decided to go with a brick and mortar shop I'm sure you would do well.
Take care.
Vinny.     
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Post by: JimmyMak on September 19, 2012, 08:29:33 PM
Hey john how hard is to wheel your oven into yards, driveways, uphill ect.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 22, 2012, 04:40:05 PM
If its not a smooth surface its very hard this aint no BBQ!  check it out tonight in the LIVE TV SHOW  ;D
should rcongnice the last shot in the show. Stone driveway ,Lots of wood moving pushing ... not to often its a back and drop
JOhn
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: thezaman on September 23, 2012, 07:40:13 AM
 john, looks like there may be a link showing [last weeks show]. this might show your segment later this week.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: petef on September 23, 2012, 10:20:56 AM
Yeah, so I'm watching the "Toni On" show on TV today where they are visiting with some of the best pizza shops in the area. I believe it was the Phili, PA area. Very cool pizza show. Then I see them visiting with FLIRTING WITH FIRE a Neapolitan mobile pizza guy. I'm thinking to myself, hey, that sounds familiar from pizzamaking.com forums. I had not previously been following this thread so I wasn't aware that our own JConk007 was the owner of this business. Now I see it is John!  That's fantastic! You made the big time John!!!! Congradulations!

I only have one question... Those secret ingredients that you would not divulge on the TV interview... Are they here on pizzamaking.com for anyone diligent enough to do the research?

---pete---
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Post by: JConk007 on September 23, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
Yep that's me! I got a call for a gig less than 5 min after show aired! Also first email I go after the 5:30 am on CBS thos was from my real job boss !who had. NO idea what I was doing this OOPS so the cats out of the bag ? He did pay me a nice compliment so let's see what the rest of the gang thinks? It on my time own time right ?
John
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Post by: bfguilford on September 23, 2012, 06:29:31 PM
Yep that's me! I got a call for a gig less than 5 min after show aired! Also first email I go after the 5:30 am on CBS thos was from my real job boss !who had. NO idea what I was doing this OOPS so the cats out of the bag ? He did pay me a nice compliment so let's see what the rest of the gang thinks? It on my time own time right ?
John

Ah... the Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again ::). Seriously, congratulations on the publicity and the (first) results. Who knows, maybe you'll book your next company party, too. Let us know if there's a webcast that we can see.

Barry
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Post by: JConk007 on September 23, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
Thanks Barry !
Yes the  boss mentioned doing the trucker BBQ. Not sure if he was serious  and I have had 3 calls already from CT! trying to get a link for my 5 minutes of fame  :-D
JOhn
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Post by: rcbaughn on September 23, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
Yes please find a video for us that don't live local to that station. Pretty cool getting featured man! National TV food channels coming up next.
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Post by: ThatsAmore on September 23, 2012, 09:52:46 PM
Thanks Barry !
Yes the  boss mentioned doing the trucker BBQ. Not sure if he was serious  and I have had 3 calls already from CT! trying to get a link for my 5 minutes of fame  :-D
JOhn

Just think, you got 10 minutes to go  :-D

You have a class act going on.  This is one of my favorite threads.

Cheers!
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Post by: bfguilford on September 24, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Thanks Barry !
Yes the  boss mentioned doing the trucker BBQ. Not sure if he was serious  and I have had 3 calls already from CT! trying to get a link for my 5 minutes of fame  :-D
JOhn

Where in CT, John? If it's within an hour or so from me, I'd be happy to lend a hand - cleanup or something, so I don't get in the way too much :).

Barry
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Post by: weemis on September 24, 2012, 03:39:24 PM
It was only a matter of time before the masses got wind of you!
cheers, John  :chef:
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 24, 2012, 10:25:35 PM
New Canaan ? CT ? not sure how many massees but when I  walked into a meeting on sunday guy grabed me and said " hey I saw you on tv I know that guy ?" I had never met himbut he had seenme around kinda cool hoping for the best.
Bigger oven is now in the works  :-X !!
John
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 24, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Bigger an better...that's the way ya do it.
Oh...the power of media,eh?!   ;)
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Post by: bfguilford on September 24, 2012, 11:00:22 PM
New Canaan ? CT ?

About an hour away from me. I work with a consulting company there from time to time. Very wealthy area. They'll be able to afford you, John.

Barry
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Post by: deb415611 on September 25, 2012, 06:10:22 AM
That area of CT can definitely afford you.  I'm about an hour from there also. 
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on September 29, 2012, 10:06:49 PM
Here we go Folks!! For those of you who missed my 2.5 minutes of Fame  :-D
Good Pizza show Toni is Great and Scott Wiener is a member here ! So its  worth a few minutes to watch all If you look hard you can see my pizzas in the preshow clips and here and there I know which ones they are cus I made em !
 I am in video #3 about 2 Min In. Kinda cool to be in there with the big guys in NYC
Hope it work takes a few minutes before videos come up  be patient ! http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/22/toni-on-new-york-new-york-city-pizza/

ENJOY
John

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Post by: Chaze215 on September 29, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Thats awesome John! Congrats man!
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Post by: bfguilford on September 29, 2012, 10:37:52 PM
Congratulations John. That was even better than I thought it would be from your earlier description. No wonder you got the calls... heck, I would've called you!

Barry
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Post by: flyboy4ual on September 29, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
John,

That was really cool!  Maybe you should start autographing the pizza tools before you send them out! ;D

Scott D.
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Post by: RobynB on September 29, 2012, 11:38:12 PM
Why doesn't it work for me???   ???  The first 3 video screens are blank and won't load at all, the fourth one I can see but no volume, and that's not the one with John!  Waaah  :(  Anyone on Firefox able to see them?
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Post by: ThatsAmore on September 29, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
Why doesn't it work for me???   ???  The first 3 video screens are blank and won't load at all, the fourth one I can see but no volume, and that's not the one with John!  Waaah  :(  Anyone on Firefox able to see them?

I played hell with it too.  Even after to disabled all of my protection.  Site appears to auto-refresh about every 3 minutes.

He's in video #3 about 1/2 way in.  And he is having a good day :)
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Post by: JConk007 on September 30, 2012, 12:08:23 AM
Thanks All !
Gotta wait, It takes a good few minutes for some. this is 20 min worth of Video to down load Be Patient ! go get a glass of wine wait a minute and should work. Sorry for any problems I will have seperate link for my segment I will put that up later dont go crazy its only  live TV !  8)
j
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Post by: scott123 on September 30, 2012, 05:48:09 AM
Fantastic segment, John. You seem incredibly comfortable in front of a camera. Between that charisma and your pizzas, I think you're looking at a lot more than 2.5 minutes of fame  ;D
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Post by: thezaman on September 30, 2012, 06:57:38 AM
john, that was great!!! you are a natural and the set up and pies looked amazing. i hope the next time we get together in the city for a pie you are still driving and not being chauffeured by you private driver. sending the link to the monsignor, and the rest of my family they were very impressed with you and your passion for pizza. what are you adding to your pizza sauce, secret ingredients ?
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Post by: deb415611 on September 30, 2012, 07:01:08 AM
that was great John, Congrats
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 30, 2012, 10:38:57 AM
Johnny, baby...look'in good. Fantastic job!  :o
You need an agent?  8)
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Post by: Pete-zza on September 30, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
John,

Very nice, indeed. But you earned it through all of your hard work, especially finding all of those secret ingredients ;D.

Peter
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Post by: TXCraig1 on September 30, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
Dude, that is frekin' awesome!
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Post by: norma427 on September 30, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Congrats John!  ;D

Norma
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Post by: rumper on September 30, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
Well Done John that is awesome.  And thorughly deserved.
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Post by: The Gizz on September 30, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
Excellent Excellent Excellent!!! Great Job John  :) Congrats
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Post by: JConk007 on September 30, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
WOW thanks everybody !! :-[ really appreciate the comments!  ! It was a great time and I really enjoyed it! This was  was my first time on Camera so a bit unnatural and nervous ! I woulds have prefer some prep time or at least questions Toni was planning to ask But just as well I did not have time to fret over it !
Scott I will gladly auto graph your next peel or Mixer ~
still have those beautiful small Mecnosud spiral mixers available ! 3 gone !
John
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Post by: Vinny G on October 02, 2012, 03:03:40 PM
John you seemed to be a natural on camera.  Pies looked excellent as always, and setup was very professional looking.  If she would have interviewed me, I would have been like Ralph Kramden in the Chef of the Future episode of the Honeymooners. Great publicity and exposure for sure.  
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Post by: Chicago Bob on October 02, 2012, 03:10:55 PM
John you seemed to be a natural on camera.  Pies looked excellent as always, and setup was very professional looking.  If she would have interviewed me, I would have been like Ralph Kramden in the Chef of the Future episode of the Honeymooners. Great publicity and exposure for sure.  

That was a funny episode Vinny!  :-D
And yes! Johnny baby is a natural if ever there was one...I'm say'in!!  8)
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Post by: JConk007 on October 07, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
What a fun Party on Saturday.  and no Rain !!! This is first time since I strated I came home with 0! and I know why supposed to be 55 + a few kids ? how about I counted quick about 70 + adilts  25 kids did 55 pies in 2 hrs and headed  home. Told him "Im out !" I would have been glad to bring 20-30 more but I went on what he told me so I was out, and he could say nothing he gave me the number! Truth is I was a little pissed-  he felt horrible so $100 buck tip for each of my  crew. I had to mobilze anyway could have got at least anther 25-30 people billed for same event oh well at least I paid for the gas   ;) Had a new helper and the girl showed up in a tie ! too busy to get too many pizza shots which were coming out really sweet after the 2 hr heat up
Here was Set up On a nice flat concrete driveway where I backed in unhooked and set up right there. A real pleasure and easy out !
John
ps those are not my red and white flags owner wanted me to match his tent so hey whatever the customer wants ,actually looked kinda  cool !
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Chicago Bob on October 07, 2012, 09:39:42 PM
Very nice once again John...you have a class act!   :chef:
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Post by: cnkymnky on October 08, 2012, 08:46:40 AM
You are the man John, very impressive. Bad situation when the client either accidentally or on purpose undercuts the head count by that much. Obviously not your fault at all that it ended up this way, unfortunately in the eyes of the guests it's always the caterers fault when he runs out of food, sad reality of our business. You should be very proud of what you have done with your business, which I am sure you are. Hope I can get to the point where you are in my business someday. Keep up the great work John, you truly are an inspiration.
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Post by: jeffereynelson on October 08, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
That's crazy you bring 55 balls for 55 people. I would be so scared one or two would have a problem and I would be short. Impressive you never worry about messing one up.
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Post by: TXCraig1 on October 08, 2012, 02:04:50 PM
The last time I ate at UPN in NYC - a couple months before he closed and moved to SF - Anthony was not there, and the guy making the pies didn't like something about the first two pies he made me because he dumped them in the trash before they even went into the oven.
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Vinny G on October 08, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
It almost looks as though that concrete pad and driveway were custom made just to perfectly fit your setup.  Looks great and professional as usual.  
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Post by: rcbaughn on October 09, 2012, 01:26:32 PM
The last time I ate at UPN in NYC - a couple months before he closed and moved to SF - Anthony was not there, and the guy making the pies didn't like something about the first two pies he made me because he dumped them in the trash before they even went into the oven.

Seems that would take a lot of extra dough prep and amount of it in the daily planning if your doing that a lot. Costly too if your using a really good flour and olive oil in a dough.
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Post by: JConk007 on October 09, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
I dump em if I don't like the way it looks  for sure ! If bottom is too dark Nope ,out! Its always hard starting out when floor is 900 first few are generally toast and crew food  :P
Most parties never require 1 per person they are grazing on everything around and grab a slice here and there 1 per person is where I started have found that's way too much.

Oh , olive oil in dough ? AhH,  say it ain't so

That's for the winter home oven blends
John
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Post by: The Slice on October 10, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
This could be the greatest thread ever!  Very inspiring. I'm thinking of doing something similiar except with a deck oven on propane.
So are you still determined to keep your day job? ;)
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on October 10, 2012, 10:45:14 PM
Yep for now  ??? Benifits of doing what I love dont quite match the dental, health Pension, 401 ( now 201) K and weekly check 52 weeks a year, and as mentioned I  value the tine with my family as well.
Yes there are some cool gas deck oven set ups out there as well as a few impinger ovens (yeck) just search and you shall find or I will send you a few links but dont want to contaminate this WFO thread
Just kidding I love a gas deck ny pie but as scott123 always  says you better hit 650 with that bad boy to find the magic  ;D
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: weemis on November 16, 2012, 11:23:43 AM
Is FWF surviving alright in the wake of sandy? Any unwanted effects on the business (or wanted, for that matter)? have you hung your oven tools up for the winter yet? The silence is deafening, John ;)
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Post by: TXCraig1 on November 16, 2012, 11:28:52 AM
Is FWF surviving alright in the wake of sandy? Any unwanted effects on the business (or wanted, for that matter)? have you hung your oven tools up for the winter yet? The silence is deafening, John ;)

You're not looking in the right place: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5130.msg223772.html#msg223772
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Post by: weemis on November 16, 2012, 12:39:23 PM
nice, thanks!
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Post by: JConk007 on November 16, 2012, 04:23:48 PM
Hey Nick
Pulled thru Sandy ok No Power for 7 days but the earthstone oven pulled thru BIG time! Love that girl.
Never Hang up the tools. Or allways hang em up!  Everytime I say enough for this year and start packing, I  get a call ! yes this sunday 54 degrees twin 18 YO  girls birthday party ! Then I Got another call from Exec. at BMW whichis headquartered 10 min from Me she wants a small house Party could be huge $500 minimum for 12 -18 people  ;D sure why not!
If they want it I'lll be there -jacket, gloves, whatever !!  :chef: hat too!
Last year I wished I never stopped as it was constantly hitting like 50-60 til Feb. Ready to roll this winter. !!
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Post by: weemis on November 16, 2012, 04:28:09 PM
Good to hear! I, too, am pushing through the winter months. Not nearly as busy as you, but saying yes to everything I can. Gotta love the outside temps being refrigerator temps  :-D Makes things easy for us without refrigeration prep tables.

Keep on rockin, John! Don't be afraid to update the thread. Us small fish learn a lot from it!
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Post by: JConk007 on November 19, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
Up date - Fall Parties ! Yes been going a bit but not posting for fear of Ignore button  :-[
Yes its nice to have the cooler temps too some point (about 58 degrees) but does make the dough harder to spread and work with. I did a nice party for about 35 people and it was close to 57 degrees my helper had a tee shirt on! I love the leaves around and the chill. People love the flames more thats for sure! Here was the last quicky
may have a few more but weather pemitting. I actually had to keep the dough in the van to keep it workable, did 1 rack at a time even the Nutella and the Oils were a bit slow. Stilll greatto keep going and keep the dream alive.
Did the regulars and a few seasonal a la Amano  Butternut , Guyere carmelized onions and a spiced apple with cinnimon and real whipped cream OMG!  sorry didnt even get a shot of that 1!
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Post by: JConk007 on November 19, 2012, 09:12:03 PM
The Ingredients Rack and topping/ oils I have been aquiring. allways up for something to mix it up !  
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Post by: JConk007 on November 19, 2012, 09:16:25 PM
Didn't even move the van Back in fire up and PIZZA! also nice to spread out beyond the 10X10 tent and not worry about cookin (Literally) in the sun !
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Post by: breadstoneovens on November 20, 2012, 06:47:15 AM
Good looking pizza as usual John. Are you going to bring all that nice set-up when you try the 1500 :-D ?

Antoine
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Post by: weemis on November 20, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
fancy! love the spread of oils and such.
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Post by: thezaman on November 20, 2012, 11:34:57 AM
 where is that ignore button :-D damn john it is so inviting to see the wood fired kitchen set up in a fall setting. the pies look great as always.you creativity on toppings and choices is amazing. do you create your pies at the event or are the choices pre planned? please keep pictures coming.
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Post by: landras on November 28, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
very nice set up! I love lemon on my pizza. Did you try blue cheese with fire roasted red peppers and olives? mmmmmmm
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Post by: JConk007 on November 28, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
I'll try anything - once  ;)
John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on November 28, 2012, 08:33:48 PM
Every time I think I can't possibly get more impressed with what you are doing, I get more impressed with what you are doing!
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Post by: JConk007 on November 28, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Thank you Craig! means alot coming from you ! There are several new Neapolitan  joints popping up so your next NY trip give me a shout for sure !
PS - if I hit the Power ball $500 million!  I may open one myself ? matter o fact prob one in Texas for you to mess with also, and what the hell, 1 in mass for John D too! Larry you have your place already  :-D

John
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Post by: TXCraig1 on November 28, 2012, 09:06:08 PM
Thank you Craig! means alot coming from you ! There are several new Neapolitan  joints popping up so your next NY trip give me a shout for sure !
PS - if I hit the Power ball $500 million!  I may open one myself ? matter o fact prob one in Texas for you to mess with also, and what the hell, 1 in mass for John D too! Larry you have your place already  :-D

John

I'm going to hold you to that!  ;D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on November 28, 2012, 09:46:22 PM


Keep on rockin, John! Don't be afraid to update the thread. Us small fish learn a lot from it!
Boy...you sure got that right Nick. And the great thing is that John will prolly never consider himself a "big fish"...just awesome man.  8)
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Post by: TXCraig1 on November 28, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
Boy...you sure got that right Nick. And the great thing is that John will prolly never consider himself a "big fish"...just awesome man.  8)

I've met him a couple times. He's big.  :-D Nicest guy you'll ever meet.
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Post by: JConk007 on November 28, 2012, 11:40:52 PM
 :-[ And not getting any bigger wider maybe!
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Post by: veebo on December 06, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Best of luck!  Already a few gigs lined up!  I am jealous!  Are you going to refridgerate, or use another method to keep stuff cold before you fire it up?  Just curious... :chef:
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Post by: JConk007 on December 06, 2012, 11:40:33 PM
Veebo are you saying you have a few gigs lined up for your new mobile WFO trailer .?
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Post by: JConk007 on December 09, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
Return to the Four Grand Mere.!
A great Party 100 people 75 pizzas and roasty toasty warm!
It was around 45 degrees and I could have had a tee shirt on. Our Member RickM did a really great job setting up heated tent and pizza station for the 100 or so guests. The oven was working great and pizzas flying all over. I could Have "worked ?" in a tee shirt  :chef: Great Party Rick!
Thanks again!!
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Post by: JConk007 on December 09, 2012, 10:50:37 AM
Very Busy but got a few of the first pies coming out and a KILLER Cannoli !
You can see how the lower dome helps the top cooking and bottom stays perfect. These were early on flooor 830 degrees . If you rake the coals you do have to cook off the floor but 60 -70 second is doable I was just too  darn busy.
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Post by: thezaman on December 09, 2012, 11:30:22 AM
 john, that set up is amazing. the party was in a tent the oven partially in the tent? what is the oven height in the interior? how did it work for you? talk conklin!!
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Post by: norma427 on December 09, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
John,

Those pictures are amazing!  ;D

Norma
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Post by: breadstoneovens on December 09, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
John the pizza and the set-up look fantastic. We got to get together so you share some of you knowledge with me  ;D

Antoine
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Post by: breadstoneovens on December 09, 2012, 02:07:07 PM
Thezaman, the oven dome interior height is 9.5". The rest John will have to answer  :-D

Antoine
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Post by: JConk007 on December 09, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
HOLY CANNOLI !!  :oand did you see that  3 FOOT Cannoli stuffed with Cannolis!  :-D
great stuff
The dome height is posted at 9 -3/4" And again I cant say enough how much I like  the way these ovens cook could be the concrete bed (mass)  beneath the baking stones which are differnet product than the forno  and the Earthstone the bottom does not burn and the all else is done  perfect. You need to  be careful with the lower dome  you do not get too much flame accross the top but a nice cookingnoven for sure this was 61% hydration dough. Made friday am 11:am  room temp bulkfor 10 hrs ball and fridge for 10 hrs  tehn 65 f until  cooked sat 7pm
The tent covered everything and was quite toasty. The oven sat outside the tent but you can see the additional tarp where rick zip tied it to tent frame  cut out a nice size round for the chimney. I did start raing prettty good later on and not adrop of water anywhere !
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Post by: Rick M on December 09, 2012, 07:40:32 PM
Imagine that John, there's Bill (in the red sweater), the self proclaimed Pizza Tester.  Awesome job at our annual Christmas party.  Talk to ya soon.

Rick M.
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Post by: JConk007 on December 09, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
And test he did ! I think I counted well north of 20 slices ! not including the desert pies ! Proof it ain't that all that bad. Hope I am invited back again sometime ! By the way - I brought 44 dough balls from the fork mixer and Rick supplied another 36? from he Mecnosud  8L spiral mixer he got from me a while back. That dough was phenomenal once warmed up >= to mine Rick! you are well on you way. Oh yeah you had a good teacher  ;) Now if we can only get him to post a few pictures of his build and his machine in action! here's his Beautiful Baby ! There are only 2 of these left !
john
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Post by: JConk007 on January 13, 2013, 06:57:29 PM
So what do you do in the winter ? Keep going !!
Dec 30th was a great hit 2 calls already from that cold winters night. Another small one last night. I loucked out and quote warm for this garage Party. After studing the weather before making dough I decided to make and extra 20 for sunday as well for my platform tennis club.
cloudly and 50 worked out great. Heres Saturday Garage Party
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Post by: JConk007 on January 13, 2013, 07:01:17 PM
Keot the dough in the house and then used my bags that I use in summer to keep cold to keep warm quick blastwith heater zipper up and worked perfect !! Heres a few from sat
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Post by: JConk007 on January 13, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
Onto my tennis club today with the leftovers just backed in fired up while I played my matchand cooked a few You can see the results of the extra day fermentation (kinda Paulie Geeish?) and the ole Heat the bag trick  ;)
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Post by: jeff v on January 13, 2013, 07:21:22 PM
Lookin' great John! Glad you could do some gigs in winter, or were you looking forward to the downtime?
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Post by: JConk007 on January 13, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
Thanks Jeff,
Wasnt planning on doing any but been fun and keep the little bit of skill I have in tune.  I Dont mind it,  as long as its not freezing. Its easy to refridgerate in summer and control the dough,  but when it form or frozen the Neapolitan dough can be a bit rough. I  also turned down one for this Wednsday. I Have do some salesforce training  full day Ughh  :'(
Think thatll do it for this year off the Park City Sundance Film Festival week and some great skiing !  They are buriedinsnow out there ye ha!
John
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Post by: jeff v on January 13, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
Tis the season for all day training!

The progress of your pizza from page 1 til now is really cool! Excellent job.
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Post by: acbova on January 14, 2013, 09:13:17 AM
I've got mine backed up to my garage and I love it.
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Post by: thezaman on January 14, 2013, 01:56:36 PM
 john, did your mini pizza crawl influence your pizza at all this weekend??
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Post by: JConk007 on January 14, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
@Jeff- Thanks for the compliments. Last year I stopped Sept. ? Still  going now!  Also  I am getting calls already for 2013 season almost daily  ;D  Really? If it turns  just the same as this season I will be thrilled ! all I can handle for now.  :pizza:

@larry-Non of the places we visited were working with a small mobile oven or outside in the weather, so really it Just made it taste a little better  :P   Not quite Via Tribunali but seriously I'll take this over Co. anyday of the week!  Nothing against them, and pizza wasnt all that bad,  but I prefer the neapolitan style nowadays.
John
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Post by: Epsasser on February 06, 2013, 02:11:14 AM
Hi John , I the major newbie and I just finished reading thru every page of this thread.....what a story.  BRAVO ! 
My own adventure has begun here on the other side of the world from you ...think warm everyday.  I am a manufacturer of home furnishings by profession, farmer/ foodie by love ...see www.rockhousefarm.info but spend alot of time on a island in the southern Philippines.  I travel alot for my work in Europe and many years ago was given a pizza oven by a client from Italy. I don't know the source as it was loaded in a container with other items and was not declared. Anyway I never set up as I was holding off a remodel on a home and then I started another project. Recently I decided to copy it for another residence . I have done so , ordered the refractory cement the grog and so forth as I also have a commercial foundry within the companies . So for a lark I've made some. Then I decided to learn about pizza etc... and have a sibling that has 8 or so restaurants that many have wfo in the establishments. They do some pricey kinda gourmet type pizza stuff as is the trend.  So reading thru the site ...i stumbled on The mobile pizza concept and your thread. i really liked it alot....its shall we say inspired me. i am a maker by nature so i am crazy enough to make about anything.....think skunk works and i have been blessed to be able to do so not for money but the love of the process and adventure.

so now i am telling my wife your story and some ideas i have regarding it..like getting the farm group in USA a set up built and using our pork sausage etc and all the things we grow...farm to fork mobile kitchen kinda thing..lol
So their climate is like yours in USA and now I am kinda psyched to do some events over here for fun and wanted to run by you what I think may be a issue.... We are generally 60-90% humidity in day time and 60 % at nite. It's a third world kinda place so cool air is in short supply....lol but I can get some area in a 60f range for the dough lead time ..I was just worried about the on site part... As we won't have that beautiful refrigerated prep table laying around... That's the bomb...now I do have plenty of marble so I thought I would make a well insulated portable table cabinet set up , marble top and put block ice in a large tray and  keep it all cool including condiments 1800s style.... I know all this sounds wild but I am going for it.... Your story pumped it for me.... Think home made goat cheese from the islands with sashimi tuna slices and homemade home grown tomato sauces... Or papaya sliced , and mango chutney with wild honey desert pizzas..... Crazy...eh...I am certified as my dad said 26 years ago when I moved here at 24 for no money but that's another novel.

Any advice is appreciated...and if you do get to NC ...there is pork in your future.

Great site here and great folks...John may the pizza be with you..... My wife did not like my Asiaslice name , thought it sounded like a girlie bar but I'm sticking with it ! Cheers to the club from " it's more fun in the Philippines " newbie.
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Post by: JConk007 on February 28, 2013, 10:20:05 PM
Gearing up for the season . Kick it up a notch  ;)
Ice Creanm IceCream we all Scream for Ice Cream   :P
I found  this very (cool no pun intended), dipping cabinet by Silverking and could not hold Back Great quality perfect size and brandy new !
Hold 2- 3 gallon buckets perfect.  I have been eyeing the goods at Rest Depot $13.50 -$17.50 bucks( french vinella)  for 3 gallons of Ice cream , Italian Ice or Sorbet.
do the Math ??
Plan is to do a dessert option of the Nutella pies and choice of above for Like $3-5 per person  Last year I just did the Nutella for $0 but the price of that has climbed as well. Sound Fair ?? Gelato for those High end Parties  
If it doesnt work I will just eat it all  myself ! MMMNN Burp.  
Whats your Favorite Flavor ??
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Post by: Chicago Bob on February 28, 2013, 10:41:13 PM

Whats your Favorite Flavor ??
Good 'ole Butter Pecan works for me...
Saweet cold box unit you picked up there John, that's going to come in real handy.

edit; you jus love sell'in stuff don't you...  ;D
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Post by: pizza dr on February 28, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
Pistachio Gelato... but I never eat it  :angel:
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Post by: JConk007 on February 28, 2013, 11:16:42 PM
That was the first test batch I bought pistachio gelato!  man good , but $$ I had it wrong it's $17 bucks for a half gallon ?
Ps its gone already !

@Bob  long as I don't sell my sole it's all good brudda  ;D
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Post by: bfguilford on March 01, 2013, 03:09:37 PM
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Barry
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Post by: Chicago Bob on March 01, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
Jeez, John, now you're thinking about selling fish, too?  ;D
No, he needs them to walk on so his feet won't get cold.  ;D
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Post by: landras on March 01, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
very nice John.
how cold that thing goes? will it hold the temp well unplugged when you have to make the trip from home to the party?

FYI will have the oven ready in about 6/8 weeks!
nico
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Post by: JConk007 on March 02, 2013, 12:20:13 AM
Awesome Nico,  keep me in the loop please !
Yes will stay cold  goes down to -20  i think I usually do 15- 30 min max for party I may do an  inverter if required  And a few ice packs sure it will  be fine.
John
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Post by: TomN on March 11, 2013, 02:41:45 AM
Keep on going strong. I wish you the very best John!


TomN
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Post by: Draper on March 20, 2013, 06:01:22 PM
Hey John -
I just read all your information and I am wondering how is it going now ?  I am kind of in the same situation that you were in.  I have the money to buy something like what you show in the pictures and just start doing some weekend gigs but I am a little nervous to get started. 
Any advise or ideas you can pass on to me would be so appreciated.

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Post by: JConk007 on March 30, 2013, 08:42:41 PM
Going Great !!I'm back!! Great to be making pizza again !  1st gig of 2013 today at a Paddle or some call it Platform Tennis tournament at the Brookside racquet  and swim club. What a gorgeous day !! absolutely perfect for making the dough as well.  Made dough Thursday 61%  early afternoon and it never saw the refriderator. Glad too see I didn't loose the touch.  Dough was spot on ! Manager of Amano was there ( plays at my club) and he was blown away by the set up and product !! the dough and set up are below
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Post by: JConk007 on March 30, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
See the  new  dipping cabinet there ? So first 3 parties I booked I upsold/added the ice cream or gelato. Today 46 people $3 bucks a head !  ;) bucket of italian ice (Um $16 bucks!) only used less than 1/2 of it !  For those of you who dont know wat this Highly addictive game looks like. Pies and Paddle below
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Post by: tombiasi on March 30, 2013, 09:19:12 PM
Nice job man! If I knew you were up there I would have hopped on 287 and bummed a slice >:D
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Post by: scott123 on March 30, 2013, 09:29:37 PM
Nice job man! If I knew you were up there I would have hopped on 287 and bummed a slice >:D

Haha, me too! Although I don't think, with my physique, I'd ever be able fool anyone into thinking I played tennis.

John, your pies are evolving a bit.  Shorter bake time than usual?
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Post by: tombiasi on March 30, 2013, 09:40:59 PM
Haha, me too! Although I don't think, with my physique, I'd ever be able fool anyone into thinking I played tennis.

Me either, but we would look in place around pizza. :o
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Post by: norma427 on March 30, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
John,

Your pies look terrific!  ;D

Norma
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Post by: JConk007 on March 30, 2013, 10:33:05 PM
Thanks guys! Yes scott  70-90 sec but I attribute it to the perfect fermentation. close to 2 days from 55-65 degrees. Felt awesome to work with too!
Yo  are both more than welcome anytime to come by! Have like 10 local events booked  for april, may, and  june already  ;D
curious anyone out by Jackson hole Wy ?
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Post by: Chaze215 on March 31, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
John, your pies do look great! Besides yourself,  how many people do you have with you for an event? I'm sure the size of the event plays a role. Keep up the good work!
Any fellow PM forum members up for crashng a Flirting With Fire party??  ;D
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Post by: Pizza De Puta on March 31, 2013, 11:13:37 PM
You haven't lost your touch over the winter!  Those pies look spectacular!! :)
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Post by: landras on April 01, 2013, 11:46:19 AM
Very nice looking pies! It is very nice to keep the dough out of the fridge, here in houston temps are around 80 already......Where do you buy the ice cream? how do you serve it? I am thinking very seriously about to incorporate the dipping cabinet too.....thanks
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Post by: apizza on April 01, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Signs of spring. Robins and reading The Adventures of Flirting With Fire. Love the posts about your events John. Everything looks great.
Marty
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Post by: Serpentelli on April 01, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
John,

What's the largest number of people you've ever had at one of your events?

That group there looks like a nice (but hungry!) crowd size.

John K
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Post by: pabsey on April 07, 2013, 08:46:10 PM
Nice to see someone is out there burnin up pizzas, still freezing and a foot of snow on the ground in Fargo. What % of yeast do you use for a two day rise like that?  Casey
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Post by: JConk007 on April 07, 2013, 08:55:49 PM
.14% IDY  with a fork mixer cool water so no jump start. Love it around 50 for the first 8-10 hrs then whatever looks right at 65 Degrees maybe 15 hrs  thenback to 55 for 12-15  then another  good 8-10 at room temp prebake
"Dancing with the Dough !" always looking, checking, smelling. juggling :P
My favorite season for pizza making  for sure !!
John
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Post by: Pete-zza on April 07, 2013, 09:10:09 PM
John,

I just noticed the new Signature line with a link to your website. I like it!!

Peter
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2013, 11:55:41 AM
A cool breezy afternnon for a small 1 year old Party driveway set up tent tied doen and hot oven ! Good time. Cust requested Veggies so I did the Broccoli Rabe and sausage. Was HOT seller everyone loved it !
My oven man was nor available so friend helped me on the oven. A little well done for me but he bailed me out hugely and I was able to do 32 Pies in 1:15
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Post by: scott123 on April 21, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
That sausage and broccoli rabe looks stunning. Wow!
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Post by: JConk007 on April 21, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
Bring some broccoli rabe with you if you want 1 ! They cleaned me out of that stuff very quickly!
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Post by: Serpentelli on April 21, 2013, 12:58:38 PM
Wow John! Those pies look great especially the BRS pies. I love the slight bitterness of the BR.

John K
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Post by: mkevenson on April 21, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
John, excellent job! You both done great! I bet everyone was happy and well fed. :chef:


Mark
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Post by: JConk007 on April 27, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
A great engagement Party with a Guest helper from the forum ! 75 very Happy people !   :P Heres our  Man Chaze ! thanks again!!
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Post by: Chaze215 on April 27, 2013, 10:28:16 PM
Sorry guys, don't know why the pics loaded sideways. I'm posting from my phone  :-[
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Post by: Chicago Bob on April 27, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
Good job Chaz....must have been a blast learning from a Pro!  :chef:
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Post by: Chaze215 on April 27, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
Lets see if this works  :)
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Post by: JConk007 on April 28, 2013, 09:25:15 AM
You got it Thanks for posting ! Maybe Peter can delete the crooked post pics please
J
 @ Bob,  thanks for the comments!  but pro Nah, just Havin me some pizza fun !
John
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Post by: mkevenson on April 28, 2013, 10:45:15 AM
John, everything looks great! The pies are to die for, your sous did a wonderful job and you were gratious to show Chaz the ropes. Congrats to you both.


Mark
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Post by: JConk007 on April 29, 2013, 10:59:21 PM
Nothing like setting up under a 150 year old Sprawling Majestic White Oak  on a beautiful saturday afternoon with temps in the mid to upper 70's right off the edge of the patio and kicking out a quick 40  pies! Repeat business from Last year, and when I left it was " we will see you next year ! "  ;D this is so cool ! what a fun start to 2013 !!
John
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Post by: Chicago Bob on April 29, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
Nothing like setting up under a 150 year old Majestic White Oak  on a beautiful saturday afternoon with temps in the mid to upper 70's right off the edge of the patio and kicking out a quick 40  pies! Repeat business from Last year, and when I left it was " we will see you next year ! "  ;D this is so cool ! what a fun start to 2013 !!
John
You've only been in this for a hot minute and you are always picking up repeaters....I think people like your style John.  8)
I know it sure is fun watching you GO! Thanks man.... :o
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Post by: JConk007 on April 29, 2013, 11:14:41 PM
Few Pie from that one. Man your fast Bob ! . I dont know about my style but I know Ithey like the pizza ! 2 calls today from the friday night party ! But I am already booked for the requested dates  :'(
New signature desert pizza 1/2 get Nutela 1/2 get Cookie Butter  topped with swirl of Choclate syrup and swirl of Butterscotch  OMG!! quite yummy
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 01, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
If/when I get going, I will take your booked dates  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on May 01, 2013, 09:43:29 PM
??   What are you taking  ???
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 01, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Not taking anything, but I would do dates that you couldn't. No worries. Hell I don't even have an oven :-D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on May 01, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
??   What are you taking  ???
    :-D  Don't mess with Chef John's moniezz!   :-D
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 02, 2013, 07:04:05 AM
    :-D  Don't mess with Chef John's moniezz!   :-D

Not at all. John's a good guy.
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Post by: CopperTop on May 07, 2013, 11:57:54 PM
ITS A GIRL!!  :-* At least I think so? sleek and sexy, shiny an new! Very exciting too!
Yes I am speaking of my new Mecnosud Fork Mixer She has arrived home after some wheeling and dealing and teaming up with the zaman larry (who also took ownership of one of these beauties) I picked her up at the warehouse and gently lifter her from the truck bed with my friends fork lift ( flashbacks Craig?) It weighed in at 375 pounds including the custom metal pallet. Its an FC35M model and perfect for what I need. Not as pricey and easier to get than the Pietro Berto but a well built machine for sure! I just need an Stephano  in the Garage but who would be crazy enough to do that right?. As mentioned many times, Frank at Vesta was more than gracious allowing me to mix all my dough last year with his diving arm mixer. Going to be very hard to beat that Machine and dough quality. However- time is money and schlepping 30 min each way sometimes waiting for the mixer to become available.... 2-3 hours total to make at times only 60 dough balls was eating me up. So after months of research I ended up with what I think is a BEAUTIFUL Machine. Its single phase electric for USA . Aside from a different plug, all I needed was a standard 220V outlet with 20 amp breaker which I had in place already. I Must admit, I was a bit nervous "cutting the cord" to replace the European plug, but was simple, and I am up and running!  ;D The forecast is for good weather and Fire  >:D so I Immediately made a batch of dough today. I was so worried about how it would work with smaller batches. Did 8500 G flour and 5275 G water for my test run. Mixer performed  Beautiful!! Max is said to be 23kg dry flour which I think would be pushing it? Jay J, at IL Cane Rosso also runs this identical mixer stated it was abit small for him now, He was very helpful in my decision Thanks Jay! I will post a few videos and pics later on. for now welcome Jessabell (sounds Italian right?)

John,  I am in search for the same capacity model, 35kg...fork mixer.  Know how much they run and where I can snag one?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 08, 2013, 09:03:55 AM
Yes mam,
No problem to get you 1 or any mixer or .....
Anything you need  :D
Its a wonderful Machine !
I will pm the details  to you
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
Crazy  weekend with the weather But like the Postman Rain, snow , sleet  the Pies must go on !! Casual driveway set up Flyin the pizza flag and Rocking the new chef coat  :chef:
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
When these people want pizza they get little unruly ! hers a view from the other side !! this is why I do this these Kids are PRICELESS ! Nuttella is their pie of choice and they don't stop once they have a slice !!
and a few pies
I do Peppadew Do you ??
great new topping for me  nice flavor with a slight kick and sweetness wonderful!!
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Post by: csafranek on May 20, 2013, 11:20:45 AM
The pizzas are looking great John!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
I am trying to get it down still early season for the oven man 75 people and could not do much refreshing. Reviews were very positive for sure !
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Post by: csafranek on May 20, 2013, 11:29:02 AM
How many pizzas did you make?
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Post by: landras on May 20, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
very nice chef coat, John! pizza looks great!
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Post by: Chicago Bob on May 20, 2013, 11:57:48 AM
I don't really like the Chef coat on folks in a pizza joint but think it works really well on these outdoor events for some reason. Sorta like maybe reminds people that "hey, this ain't just some back yard fool'in around here." Dunno...
But it looks good on ya John!  :chef:
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Post by: BrickStoneOven on May 20, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
Peppadew's are amazing with turkey or roast beef sandwiches. I chop them up and mix them with my honey dijon mayo.
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Post by: wheelman on May 20, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
pepadews and spicy sausage is a long time favorite here.  our WF sells good ones on the olive bar.  i like them better than the jarred ones. 
bill
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 20, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
Peppadews are awesome! I put them on pizza, salads, sandwiches etc... They are good on just about anything  ;D Looks like everything went well. Great job!
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Post by: breadstoneovens on May 20, 2013, 09:25:55 PM
All looking really good  :o

The only thing you are missing is an FGM oven  :-D
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Post by: thezaman on May 21, 2013, 04:28:54 AM
The pies look great .how big is that tent and do you have the opening of your oven under it?? if you decide to upgrade your oven i may want your chuck wagon if you give me a players price.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 21, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
@ Larry Chuck Wagon ??   >:( Really More Like  a Green $$ Machine  Larry !!
.15% yeast 10 hrs room bulk Ball fridge then final 8 hrs room
@ bob/ nico,  thanks I agree coat is just more professional, best  for what I am doing. For a  farmers Market I may where the cowboy boots!  its all about being adaptable in this molbile business.
@ serp 45-75 people is a nice # have done more !
@ thanks for the comments if anyone want to ty or cant find I will send  you a jar of the " Peppadew for You"
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Post by: landras on May 21, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
John, was that a kind of star wars fans get together? On the background of the picture of you with the  chef coat looks like people with light sabers!
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Post by: jeffereynelson on May 21, 2013, 04:25:30 PM
John, was that a kind of star wars fans get together? On the background of the picture of you with the  chef coat looks like people with light sabers!

Thats funny, I didn't even see that.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 21, 2013, 07:27:14 PM
Yes chebowa  ?and  friends whole crew  even darts vader himself  was there !
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 21, 2013, 07:53:13 PM
Good eye landras!  :-D Upon closer inspection, they are noodles and not light sabres  ;D
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Post by: Chicago Bob on May 21, 2013, 07:57:02 PM
Noodle whupped!  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on May 21, 2013, 10:28:19 PM
Want to Party in the Back Yard?? Back Her in over the curb and neighbors yard 1 shot ! and it was on ! 
Graduation Party 60 pizzas and a good team banged em out in about 2 hours
Served the Gelato here as well  :P Man was that stuff great Tahitian Vanilla , Hazelnut, and Pistachio OMG!! and the pizzas were on poin too severalEmails the next day Bravo! you rock... guess they were happy ?
yes thats my Custom Hand wash station on the front  ;)
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Post by: JConk007 on May 21, 2013, 10:34:56 PM
Had some fun in the rain for sure when it slowed down whipped out som Calzones as well as Garlic knots fun fun!
Kudos to My oven man Jack!! who stood in the light rain doing an awsome job with the chuckwagon no matter what I threw at him !
Fun Day !
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Post by: Chicago Bob on May 21, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
Yeah baby...Green Machine at it again pump'in like a Texas oil rig. Thanks for the cool pics John!  8)
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Post by: weemis on May 24, 2013, 12:28:16 PM
Ol' Johnny 2-tents! Fancy stuff. Looks like you've got it nailed down these days, sir! Than van seems like it would make life tons easier. And how the hell do you back that thing up with such precision? I'm the "get it close (hopefully), then push it into place" oven guy. Backing up with a trailer is definitely not my specialty.

Keep on rockin, John!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 27, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Sunday was Finally nice !! at theTop o the Driveway
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Post by: JConk007 on May 27, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
Just a few Dont want to bore anyone.
New guy helping on the oven today few pointers and I think he liked it. Will be a big help this season.
Sprouts and Pancetta
Spinach and Oven roasted Garlic
Lemon, Sorrentino
and  Did 12 Nuttella Pies at the end not a crumb left !!
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Post by: jeffereynelson on May 27, 2013, 11:28:23 PM
looks like fun, how many total pies?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 28, 2013, 12:10:06 AM
55 12" pies total including the  desert pies
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Post by: Chicago Bob on May 28, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
55 12" pies total including the  desert pies
That's a quick 'lil drop in the bucket, er, cash register for you John.
What it take ya... 'bout 43 an a half minutes?  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on May 28, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
2 hrs  ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on June 04, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Slipped the old girl  into another Backyard  ;D before and after of spot selection and before and after my Touch of Pesto pie  :chef: :chef:
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on June 04, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
Pies and that cozy location looks great! Was it a pain to push her back there?
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Post by: Chicago Bob on June 04, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
Thanks for the quality pics John...gotta love all the high end digs you seem to always stumble into!  >:D
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Post by: JConk007 on June 05, 2013, 12:58:09 AM
I phone all I have for pics , and No Chaze Back it right in, drop toungue jack and spin (on wood)  :D
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Post by: thezaman on June 05, 2013, 02:28:29 PM
 looks good john. you do your parties with only 2 people? i need to rethink my crew size
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Post by: JConk007 on June 05, 2013, 10:22:09 PM
Pizza in The Park !
OK Huge learning curve with all the permitts and restrictions of Morris County Parks System! Felt Like I was cooking at the white house  :-D
$1Mil insurance on the vehicle! $1 Mil on the Bus. workers comp... WOW :o
but this is how we learn. I was approved to cater after 27 emails and phone calls and went "topless" (no tent) as that was the last stickler, No flame 20 ft ! from ANY STRUCTURE . It allworked out fine in this beautiful setting of Lewis Morris Park. The forecast was for rain (BAD) We snuck it in  Packed up and Poured as soon as we all got in the Scooby Van! 
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Post by: Chicago Bob on June 05, 2013, 10:30:10 PM
Beautiful scenery and pie pics John; thanks.  :chef:
Keep roll'in with them punches dude...faaantastic!  8)
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Post by: scott123 on June 05, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
Lewis Morris, John? Yeesh! You were right down the street from me!  ;D Did you swing by Millies on the way home?  ;)

Little story about Lewis Morris.  When I was 17, some friends and I brought a few beers in a zipped bag into the park. 5 minutes in, the park police swooped in on us like it was a swat operation.  We were  a ways off the road, and they were jumping over ditches in their cars, lights/sirens blaring to 'catch' us. Overoverkill.  You could just see them venting all that pent up frustration from failing the real cop test and being forced to police a park- by terrorizing a bunch of freaks that had no where to run (and no real running ability). Anyway, they took us down to squirrel patrol headquarters (basically a shack), took our information down, fingerprinted and took mug shuts of my friend (he had no ID on him) and gave us a summons with a court date.  Long story short, I went to court, fought it, grilled the arresting officer and demanded he produce the bag that they confiscated, and, because he didn't have it, the judge reluctantly let us go.

It's hard to tell,  because a lot of Lewis Morris looks the same, but the 'incident' might have occurred on the picnic table in your picture, John.

Anyway, one from the archives of my misspent youth.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 06, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
Had a feeling you would chime in on your stomping grounds!
And the pizza ?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 09, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
Wyckoff Family Day !!
Huge success for Flirting with Fire.  Best yet  150 pies in 3 1/2 hours  great system and good help made it all possible ! offered only Marg. and Pepp shown below. place order write it down I stretch hand off to topper he sendi it in ticket goes to cutter calls it out when done  whew! what a fun and Beautiful day! Forecast all week was for rain all day Saturday! um ??
Little chuck wagon as larry calls her, Performed Beautifully!!  2  sometimes 3  12" pies at time endless for 3+ hour floor 800-820 back 900 ish righ in the zone!
oh flew the new banner I won Playing Blackjack against the sign companyinVegas at Pizza Expo    ;D
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Post by: csafranek on June 09, 2013, 04:07:22 PM
That's awesome!!! Great work!
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Post by: breadstoneovens on June 09, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Wow, that is fantastic  :o
When are you coming to see me so you can teach me a few things  :chef:
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Post by: dhorst on June 09, 2013, 06:26:12 PM
Sounds like you had your system down.  That's a lot pies in a short period of time!  Looks like it was fun.
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Post by: JConk007 on June 09, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
If I was not so picky on the QC  and pickin on the topper guy next to me , I am confident I can do 175 in 3 hours 2 pies every 2 minutes. Key jere is the Dough needs to be spot on. And controlled carefully, too  slack is trouble too cold fuggettanputit  I call it the dough  dance ! Switch this, move that , put this one on top check the other one, restack, check again ... You get  the idea
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Post by: dhorst on June 10, 2013, 06:12:15 AM
Well, I do know that a guy out of the Capital area of NY--Albany/Troy area I believe, with a WFO mobile unit was telling me that when he did festivals that he was doing a par bake because he wasn't sure about the dough conditions.  I think it may have suffered for it, from the looks of things, but he had saved a round to be fresh stretched for me (spoiled) and kept it in a cooler.  I haven't chatted with him in a while, so I'll have to see what's up. 
I do know that temperatures can be quite challenging with dough.  The WFO place I was working at had huge issues with keeping the dough at the proper temperature once spring came and the place really got hot.  Hopefully they've solved that issue.
So, how big is your oven?  We're you doing two pies at once, or more than that?
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Post by: JConk007 on June 16, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Another cool Backyard set up live Band... busted off a leg on the prep table so had to use the mobile set up but pulled it off. Here is a few from Friday Night 
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Post by: Chaze215 on June 17, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
Looks great as usual John! Sucks that the prep table broke but I kinda like the emergency set up. What do you use for bench flour?  Where did you keep your dough trays?
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Post by: weemis on June 21, 2013, 04:50:42 PM
What kind of cheese are you using?
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Post by: JConk007 on July 02, 2013, 10:52:41 PM
Wow so I did my first 3 in a row party trick fri., sat., sun. little too much work for this old man! bit tuckered out and I had to miss TPS2 :(
Anyway HUGE success all private 1) with a small barrel oven , 2) a spread that was beyond belief!  thats just the yard you dont want to know what the inside of the home looked like :) and 3) was for a graduation party for a nice guy Brandon who just graduated from the CIA (Culinary Institute of America in NYC) blew em all away ! work 2 nights til 1 am  then finished up with#3  45 pies in 2 hours in and out. Ready for a vacation!  after the 4th and 6th 
before and afteron the setup X3!
ciao
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Post by: JConk007 on July 02, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
#2 was my fav great view for my work ? station  :o
 ^^^and a before and after set up, amd my texting  crew !
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Post by: JConk007 on July 02, 2013, 11:03:38 PM
few pies  #1 requested and my Italian flag pie  :P
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Post by: scott123 on July 02, 2013, 11:18:17 PM
Wow, John, looks great!  Love those nobby bits on the arugula pie.

What's the white part of the flag pie? It's more than just ricotta, right?

Btw, just in case anyone missed it, I recently posted a review of John's life altering pizza here:

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,24674.msg260978.html#msg260978 (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,24674.msg260978.html#msg260978)
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Post by: JConk007 on July 03, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
I missed it ! Thank you so much for the Kind words and write up.  I am always happy yo be on your good side, even though ^^^ to disagree at times  ;)
For that awesome review,  I shall divulge the white part of the flag !
Ricotta , Italian stick oregano, black pepper, garlic powder, grated Parmesan
John
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Post by: oknewell on July 03, 2013, 02:52:54 PM
1) with a small barrel oven ,

John,

You rocked it as always!  Quick question.  On that first night you used the customers barrel vault right?  How did it perform?

kevin
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Post by: JConk007 on July 05, 2013, 10:33:15 PM
My 4th of Julycombo ! fun afternoon.  I did make the Parade in the am , Pizza, Then Fireworks at night all in a days work   ;D 1 more tomorrow then taking a much needed week off from everything taking the bike about 700 miles  up and around the heart of Vermont . Meet the Family there for some down time !
1 pie the  Marinara!
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Post by: Mario D on July 18, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
Awesome thread just read the whole thing!
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Post by: JConk007 on July 24, 2013, 08:39:49 AM
OK so The dolly is still not done ( tomorrow) but there is a great place in Newark that sell stainless table ! grabbed me one 24X48  and really like not dealing with the ramps pushing .... I will still use it on asphalt or depending on who is helping that day. But Brianna and I loaded and set this up in about 30Min!  Love it ! used the 2X4 to hold the SilverKing and the rolling cart to repace the 2X4 also able to load up the roller cart too and cut out about 4 trips
All about efficiency !
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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 24, 2013, 10:39:13 AM
Where'd the cool "flame" tent go John?
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Post by: JConk007 on July 24, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
That's the big guy tent depends on set up space Bob
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Post by: SPCo. on July 26, 2013, 05:06:41 PM
Great looking setup. I had no idea there were so many mobile WFO folks on this site. Here are some pics of our setup. On a typical weekend we do 200-300 pizzas, however a few weekends ago we did 1400 for a a Northern Michigan Music Festival. It's exciting to see so much interest and dedication to mobile WFOs.

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Post by: Chicago Bob on July 26, 2013, 05:17:32 PM
 :o   Awesome!   :chef:
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Post by: wheelman on July 26, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
nicely done, pizzas look great!
bill
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Post by: lennyk on July 26, 2013, 06:51:26 PM
nice, 1400 is a mean task by any stretch of imagination
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Post by: JConk007 on July 26, 2013, 10:11:21 PM
Welcome aboard  !!
Yes, lotsa mobile guys coming on and starting out  for sure! I am  still requesting a mobile thread for every mobile oven to share. and Yes Very Cool set up and oven you have there !! ! I love the LaPenyol mobile ovens  built by Brock  Maine wood heat?? they are  beautiful !  and I love the turning option !! thats a 120 size correct ? How long have you been going again? do you cook at 900 ? how many days for the 1400 ??  I will send you a PM.  I have questions on your  oven and more ...  but keeping it to the Chuckwagon and FWFire here. I am a member of several mobile forumas and would love to have you there as well
Feel free to Start yourself  a thread. Several other Memeber  Derrick, Jeff V, Landras, Chaz and more ! have all recently set out on the Mobile Adventure  :chef:  I  could use some help with the newbie  mobile operators  ;)
Thanks !!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on August 03, 2013, 10:33:14 AM
Nice day out Day off from work for a Corporate catering gig. for all you Boaters this is Kop Coat the Manufactures of Marine Paint and Pettite coating very interesting and right in Rockaway NJ never knew that ?
Perfect weather. and lovin the new mobile set up
Bob, The  flames are back when I have the room
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Post by: Chicago Bob on August 03, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
What a nice set-up....looks sharp!  8)
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Post by: JConk007 on August 18, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
Crazy Busy I am booked thru sept!! Lasynight guy who is opening  Grimaldis Coal fired (next week he only needs staff !) was at the party I was doing!! Really Studying everything... think I am going to  have some competition  next season  :'(  oh well wish him all the best ! The place he got Is very close to me and I would have purchased but never new it went for sale the demoed a beautiful neapolitan oven  looked like a Marco oven ! used at 575 degrees and replaced with ?? windows are cover! LOcatrion is killer and 48 seats. I would have ripped it  up there! I never knew it was on the market ! 1 day oh well
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Post by: JConk007 on August 18, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
Last couple of parties huge success. Snuck into yet another backyard . These people wanted a truck, daughter from New Have ? and I sold em on my deal and we blew em aw ;)ay  Salad ,Pie, and  Gelato !!  Summer help is leaving so My man Chaze bailed me out !
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Post by: scott123 on August 18, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
guy who is opening  Grimaldis Coal fired (next week he only needs staff !) was at the party I was doing!! Really Studying everything... think I am going to  have some competition  next season  :'(

If it were Patsy Grimaldi himself watching you, then, maybe, you might be concerned, but a Ciolli family franchisee?  You have nothing to worry about. It would be like one of the guys from Anthony's Coal Fired watching you.

Beautiful sprouts pie, btw.
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Post by: JConk007 on August 18, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
yes his No compete ended place came on market few days later Thats the one I showed you
No worries totally diffedrent product and he cant find help so probably struggle with a mobile operation anyway
Why is nobody post in the Hew Haven Thread ! you have all the pics !
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Post by: Chaze215 on August 18, 2013, 02:54:04 PM
I bailed you out but I enjoy learning from you  ;D There is nothing like game experience so to speak. After dealing with the wet lawn, we were like a 3man pizza machine! And the salad and gelato were a nice touch!
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Post by: JConk007 on August 25, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
Wow, I pulled in and the guy says no way you are putting a truck on my lawn within 15 min had him convinced the beautiful lawn setting up on the 1st tier would be perfect !  worked out perfect GReat property and some really nice people as well
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Post by: JConk007 on August 25, 2013, 10:52:07 PM
up on the hill  ;D few pies I tried a potatoe with rosemary and tyme made enoughfor 3 and 10 people came back asking for it ! about 75-85 people lost count
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Post by: scott123 on August 25, 2013, 10:58:40 PM
Oooh, potato!  ;D

Did you pre-cook the potatoes first?
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Post by: JConk007 on August 25, 2013, 11:04:33 PM
Inspired by Sallys sweathouse  :-D yes and yes light bake Just enough to pass over the madoline with the  skins on,
quite delkicious what else was on the SS pie  ?
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Post by: scott123 on August 26, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
A mandoline? Sounds pretty fancy  :P

Sally's puts onions on as well, although I don't think onions are that critical.  Bacon might be nice with potatoes.
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Post by: slybarman on August 26, 2013, 08:26:35 AM
Bacon might be nice with

 . . . absolutely anything.
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Post by: acbova on August 26, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
where did you get the canopy?  It's rocking!
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Post by: Serpentelli on August 26, 2013, 01:12:03 PM
A mandoline? Sounds pretty fancy  :P


Scott,

Its not that fancy. Its just the French word for "Holy &hi+!!! I just sliced off the tip of my finger!!!" No blood on John's potatoes so he must be a pro!

John K
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Post by: landras on August 26, 2013, 03:30:28 PM
how many pies, john?
I love the potato pie, one of my favorites
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Post by: JConk007 on August 26, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
55 pies nick if customer was honest I would have brough 70 and gone they everyone! I was surprised how e euro e loved the potatoe pie! Please pm me as to how you do your Potatoe pie
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Very interesting Party for sure  ! Modest House, driveway set up (1/2) and a  no holds barred 1 Year old birthday party!
Cotton candy Machine, Bounce House, Children Games, Popcorn Machine a Petting Zoo, Indian food grill (HOT!) and  Flirting with Fire Pizza!!  Wonderful Indian people who just loved Pizza!! . Could have done 50 pies  with only 3 topping- Jalepeneos , Galic and Peppers, oh few peppadews and maybe 1 onion? great people great party !!
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Post by: scott123 on September 04, 2013, 02:27:15 AM
Dosa w/ coconut chutney. Nice  ;D No naan package, John?  :-D It's not a tandoor, but your oven could definitely match the results from one.
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 04, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
Very interesting Party for sure  ! Modest House, driveway set up (1/2) and a  no holds barred 1 Year old birthday party!
Cotton candy Machine, Bounce House, Children Games, Popcorn Machine a Petting Zoo, Indian food grill (HOT!) and  Flirting with Fire Pizza!!  Wonderful Indian people who just loved Pizza!! . Could have done 50 pies  with only 3 topping- Jalepeneos , Galic and Peppers, oh few peppadews and maybe 1 onion? great people great party !!
I'll bet you were wondering what john has got himself into when ya pulled up with your rig and saw the mini barnyard stationed right out front.  ???
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Post by: JConk007 on October 27, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
Been a while for posting  but gotta share some of the recent fun events
300 people at Company picnic
and vending at the Local animal rescue shelter . Giving back for all that has been given to me !
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Post by: tinroofrusted on October 27, 2013, 10:52:25 PM
That does look like fun. Nice pizzas to, as usual!
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Post by: wheelman on October 27, 2013, 11:29:40 PM
John,
That potato pie looks great!  Does it have cheese?
Your pizzas are better and better.
Bill
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Post by: landras on October 28, 2013, 11:28:23 PM
Thanks for sharing John, very nice pizzas.
What are those black things you have on the table's legs?
nico
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Post by: Chaze215 on October 29, 2013, 10:06:32 PM
Thanks for sharing John, very nice pizzas.
What are those black things you have on the table's legs?
nico

From when I worked with John, those things on the legs just raise the table higher.
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Post by: landras on October 29, 2013, 11:34:48 PM
From when I worked with John, those things on the legs just raise the table higher.

Thanks Chaz, but do you know what those are?  thanks
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Post by: JConk007 on October 30, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
Nico under the table are a simple set of what are called bed  risers available at any store such as bed bath and beyondor container store  They raise the table closer to height of the surrounding tables and gives a nicer presentation right around $10 bucks for set of 4  work great and pretty stable too
John
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Post by: landras on October 30, 2013, 12:45:51 PM
Nico under the table are a simple set of what are called bed  risers available at any store such as bed bath and beyondor container store  They raise the table closer to height of the surrounding tables and gives a nicer presentation right around $10 bucks for set of 4  work great and pretty stable too
John

thanks John, I was looking for something to make my tables stable, specially if you have to set up on grass...
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Post by: breadstoneovens on November 24, 2013, 10:17:37 PM
Hi Nico,

Another trick is to use PVC pipes to raise your table. You just need to cut them to length and slide them onto the table's legs. It is very inexpensive if you were to lose them, won't rust or deteriorate over time.

Antoine
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Post by: JConk007 on November 24, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Yes PVC works welll depending on you table base. if its flat bottom no go I also use a 4X4" piece of PVC board under my tables for the skinny legs dont go into soft grass or ?? Has small hole just bigger than screw base  also 1/2 way in center that I place the adjustable prep table legs into. then quicly adjust screw base to level. very slick and doesnt table cant slide off !
John
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Post by: landras on November 25, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
Yes PVC works welll depending on you table base. if its flat bottom no go I also use a 4X4" piece of PVC board under my tables for the skinny legs dont go into soft grass or ?? Has small hole just bigger than screw base  also 1/2 way in center that I place the adjustable prep table legs into. then quicly adjust screw base to level. very slick and doesnt table cant slide off !
John

thanks Antoine and John, nice tip, will try the PVC
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Post by: JConk007 on December 08, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
Just checkin In! and Yep, still at it ! Cooked Nov 23, 29, Dec 7th, 21st. coming up.I cant believe its still going ? I realize I Never Posted the Madness at the end of the year at the Pumkin Farm 100- 150 pies  a day ! every weekend in  October  :) I was getting in at 5 pm from the farm,mixing 2 batches of dough, then Balling 150 at 11:00 pm and serving at 11:00 am the next day.
Nor for the timid! But what a blast.  Good news is They Loved it !! and I am already booked for next fall !
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Post by: JConk007 on December 09, 2013, 08:41:43 PM
Had the opportunity to cook in the Four Grande Mere 950B again this weekend at the annual Rick M (memeber here) Christmas party, and what a party it is ! Sweet set up tents heaters ... thanks Rick ! Some great Pies were put out for the guest to enjoy!  I had  a great helper Jimmy Coponi the 19 YO  Youngest pizziaolo who was written up on slice. Umm Yes he is Passionate ! But not really into  ant type of toppings. Said he only knows the  Margherita. A huge confident and skilled  helper against 100 + people - and he has a greed to help me this season  when he can at Flirting with Fire   :chef:   Fun Night !! here are a few pies This is my 61% dough 10 hr bulk 1.5 day cold ball and 10 hrs room temp 60ish came out great !   you can see in the first shot how the dough was a bit cold from being outside but I cranked the car up  and that was my dough room :)
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Post by: Chicago Bob on December 09, 2013, 11:03:22 PM
Your pies are looking terrific John....outstanding!  :chef:
That tent heater is slick as a bugs ear.
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Post by: thezaman on December 10, 2013, 08:28:59 AM
 John, allof the pies look very good, but i would kill that margherita !!!! What information on pizza napolitana has your assistant jimmy discussed? i really like his appreciation for the traditional pies! talk John!!!
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Post by: JConk007 on April 06, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
Welcome to 2014 ! we are in full gear Phone is rigning off the chain!  ;D
Neighborhood Party on the road set up. The Annual Memeber Gust Platform Tennis  Tournament Man I missed this stuff!
J
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Post by: JConk007 on April 06, 2014, 10:01:30 PM
Paddle Tennis  My favorite winter sport !!
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Post by: JConk007 on April 06, 2014, 10:06:16 PM
Continuing to push the cake yeast experiments. I baked these up today This Dough was  made Last thursday for the saturday gig  !!  Perrffecttt!
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Post by: csafranek on April 06, 2014, 10:09:34 PM
What oven is that John?
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Post by: JConk007 on April 06, 2014, 10:24:23 PM
Top secret  oven ! Why do you ask ?
Just Kidding - I test drove a Brandy new Pavesi 120 On semi enclosed trailer. Cooks like a dream ! The left black panel also comes off and there is full refriderated prep table, sinks inside  .... and check out the new Pizza Stacker Gizmo on the side  and  on the prep table, pretty slick ! Holds screens or pizza peels or plates ...
Hmmnn? what to do , what to do ?
J
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Post by: csafranek on April 07, 2014, 05:10:53 AM
Looks pretty slick John! Pizzas look great too!
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Post by: landras on April 10, 2014, 04:32:51 PM
Looking good!
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Post by: ErinM on April 10, 2014, 08:14:13 PM
If you had both trailers, you'd have the best of both worlds, John. ;) I myself am still trying to decide between a simple (but more labour intensive) set up, with a small trailer which can fit where others cannot... or a larger one like you have posted photos of which is self contained. Pros and cons, pros and cons!

If you buy this one, what would be the main reason? Ease of use/less setting up? I must say, the brick face with the down lights does look very cool. ;)
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Post by: Chicago Bob on April 12, 2014, 12:03:58 AM
"If you buy this one"   :-D
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Post by: thezaman on April 12, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
john is that a barrel vault oven ? if so do you need to change your cooking method?
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Post by: Chicago Bob on April 14, 2014, 11:47:02 AM
Did you get a new hauler? That high-top van looks sweet.  :chef:

CB
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Post by: JConk007 on April 14, 2014, 12:20:10 PM
yep 2013 Nissan NV 2500 !  ;D I am 6'2 and can stand inside awesome !
oh and its a v-8 tows  #9500 lbs   :o
LOVE this thing!!  gonna wrap it and will be a BILLBOARD going down the road as well
anyone want to throw out some Ideas for the walls !feel free  ( nothing crazy Bob!) 

larry the Pavesi 120 is a traditional dome oven
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on April 14, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
What kind of mileage you get with it John? I was reading some reviews saying anywhere from 10-15mpg.
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Post by: JConk007 on April 14, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
yep right around 12-14
most partys 5-10  miles  ;) [email protected] $3.34/ gal  Its abut   1/2 of 1 people$  to get there and back  :P
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Post by: Chaze215 on April 14, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Yeah that's sweet.
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Post by: weemis on April 30, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
Man, you always got the hip %$#, John. I dig the tablecloths, too. They look great!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 05, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
BIG one this weekend for FWF 200+ out of my little 40" oven which performed beautiful! Sorry No time for pizza pics once we started it was a 4 hour PIZZA FRENZY
sequence below Yes  there was a few people there ! and yes  those are all empty  ;D + a few more in prep table
Who ever said this would be fun anyway  ???
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 05, 2014, 12:44:48 PM
Looking good! I see u busted out the prep table for this event eh? Nice job.
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Post by: landras on May 05, 2014, 12:59:08 PM
way yo go John! 200+ very nice money maker!!
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Post by: JConk007 on May 05, 2014, 01:32:10 PM
Yep need the cold  storage and makes the health dept. Very happy!
Yes, Nico it was good day $ challenge and I wanted to see if I could pull it off. $ it's  the day prep and day cleanup that are not so profitable oh that's right they are FREE!!
Also keep in mind you have 3 people to pay + yourself. Use of commissary, permits,  fees, ingredients for 200 pies, endless cleaning, get there early to set up for a total of 12 hr day !  .... Got the picture ? X times Y does not = Z! But it's so much  fun ?
Not bad ,  but a 40 person catering job  for 4 hours total is a a breeze for a similar ( or better )outcome !
Ciao
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 05, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
How many different pies did u offer? 3?
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Post by: JConk007 on May 05, 2014, 02:30:53 PM
200  - at 900+ degrees they are all different  ;D
Seriously I had five or six different toppings that were left over from my last gig. However what did people order?  89% Margherita , 8% pepperoni , 3% sausage 
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Post by: capamando on May 05, 2014, 02:47:34 PM
Nice going Johnny C. ... we do know what it takes...yes, you got to love it otherwise is a drag...
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Post by: JConk007 on May 12, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
This week was a lot easier same exact # and a ton of fun ! all works out in the wash.  Rocking Soul band right next to us. They had the Mini Me oven So I Just showed up with 40 pizzas quick set up  and had a hoot !
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Post by: landras on May 12, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
Nice John,  I have one on the 14th for 80 people, and a band is going to be playing too. Is going to be the biggest gig yet for me so I so not know exactly how I will survive the first 30 min when everybody wants so have some pizza!
By the way, the FGM eats very little wood and performs beautifully, I am loving it.
Your set up looks nice! keep it up. 
nico
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Post by: landras on May 12, 2014, 12:23:15 PM
Yep need the cold  storage and makes the health dept. Very happy!
Yes, Nico it was good day $ challenge and I wanted to see if I could pull it off. $ it's  the day prep and day cleanup that are not so profitable oh that's right they are FREE!!
Also keep in mind you have 3 people to pay + yourself. Use of commissary, permits,  fees, ingredients for 200 pies, endless cleaning, get there early to set up for a total of 12 hr day !  .... Got the picture ? X times Y does not = Z! But it's so much  fun ?
Not bad ,  but a 40 person catering job  for 4 hours total is a a breeze for a similar ( or better )outcome !
Ciao

Agree 100%, i will take a 40/50 people catering over an event even if I know I will sell 300 pies....all the paperwork, permits, etc are a pain. Catering is easy money if you can get them consistently....
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Post by: JConk007 on May 16, 2014, 10:16:53 AM
This one was great Jurasic Pizza!!  ;D
these guys really wanted some good pizza ! Nice family of 3 Dinosaurs! watched the whole time !
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Post by: JConk007 on May 16, 2014, 10:18:35 AM
This Guy wanted this  Bad!
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Post by: landras on May 16, 2014, 10:55:41 AM
NIce pictures, John, how do you process the sprouts before going on top of the pizza? blanch it, roast it? thanks
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Post by: Tampa on May 16, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
Nice pictures, John
^^^, especially that last, arugula, pic.  You can borrow my peel anytime. ;D
Dave
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2014, 08:53:19 AM
No processing just peel or slice and place on pie  yummy !
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2014, 08:58:31 AM
Great to IN The Party This is exactly why I don't have a big  truck or concession trailer. People LOve it when everyone can watch  :o  the  whole process and see the fire. I snuck thru a 7ft gate with new trailer pusher and whala  great set up ! about 80 people what a great day ! Marylynn Monroe even popped out of the cake !!! ;D

John
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Post by: JConk007 on May 20, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
It was a Brazilian theme Party  with Menu  (and Ingredients ) provided by Owner. Some crazy good combos, along with the classics ! Also pulled my own cheese for this special party using the  Losurdo curd which I love! and people loved it too !!    Onions, Olives, Oregano and Catupiry soft cheese on most . finished with the classics, Nutella pies.
John
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Post by: Chaze215 on May 20, 2014, 12:29:24 PM
I was going to ask where u got all those crazy toppings....now I know! Very nice!
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Post by: SPCo. on May 20, 2014, 01:36:21 PM
Can you expand on your new trailer pusher? Looking for one, but my oven is 2 tons and a 400lb tongue weight, hesitant to pull the trigger on anything.
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Post by: JConk007 on May 24, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
It's a park it 360
What size is your oven 48"?
Tandem trailer ?
Think my tpu hue weight is at least 300 but I just love my 40" single axle trailer so cool  be IN the party not just AT the party
Easy 200 pies in 4 hours
Next oven will be a bigger 48" for vending and doing 300-400 a day but just not required for the private catering  I love to do
John
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Post by: JConk007 on May 29, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
Forecast was for rain and it did !  and then stopped for the entire party  ;D
so what do we do if it rains -
set up by garage in driveway to play it safe
People really love the pesto pie !!
John
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Post by: jeffereynelson on May 30, 2014, 12:06:54 AM
Nicely done. Did you ever get that email I finally sent you back like a year later? Sorry I left you hanging. I just kinda disappeared for a while.
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Post by: JConk007 on September 01, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
Wow been a while what a crazy year, very busy! Will try to update a few party shots ASAP
Here is a few of the latest offerings   pesto, gorganzola fig pear, jersey fresh Corn ham roasted garlic on white sauce and a quick Calzone on request
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Post by: JConk007 on September 01, 2014, 11:40:07 PM
Hope ypu all are  well !  A Few recent  parties  and pies :)
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Post by: JConk007 on September 03, 2014, 08:42:12 AM
oops forgot to  add some pizza pizza  :pizza: to the previous posts  :P
John
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Post by: Jon in Albany on September 03, 2014, 09:22:39 AM
All the pies look great, but that corn and ham pizza looks over the top delicious to me.
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Post by: stonecutter on September 03, 2014, 09:36:31 AM
Looks great!
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Post by: tommy on September 03, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
Your pies always look great and your clients always look wealthy. Good combo!
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Post by: thezaman on September 04, 2014, 09:28:13 AM
 john, did you buy a pie from amano and put it on one of your plates? :-D beautiful !!
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Post by: Chicago Bob on September 04, 2014, 08:45:54 PM
Cake yeast wonders........ 8)
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Post by: JConk007 on September 24, 2014, 09:33:29 AM
Such A slacker! I  have been bit busy and a bit lazy in posting.
Let me share a few Flirting with Fire Recent adventures.
Teamed up  Amano for the local Jazz festival.  They supplied the dough and 1 assistant I supplied the Mobile goodies and an oven man.
There were 15 or so restaurants there from town and I never saw but 2 or 3 people eating anything but our Pizza! There was a Constant line or us and We did well north of 300 !  :o -  10" pies  and the feedback was amazing !!
It was a pleasure to  work with Carlo owner of Amano  as he is such a great guy, and has supported me from the get go.
he even stepped in to stretch when I had to take a nature break !
The event was right up the road from Amano and yes we had to restock !
FUN FUN FUN !! I love this stuff
John
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Post by: JConk007 on September 24, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
Or Hows about an after wedding Party Yes AFTER we started at  1AM ! What a blast w snuck onto patio and this was a parting suprise for all the wedding goes.
a special treat ! outta there at 3:30 !
Aside from a happy Bride and Groom Best part of this story is the forecast was for heavy rain !! I brought up oven earlier in day to be sure I was there  without  issues and I did not want to drive up in rain.
IT POURED !! all the way there!! we waited til while i concocted a plan of how to pull this off ??
Rain stopped at 11:30 set up served til 3:30 as we were taking down the tent rain started again!!
 who says good clean livin doesn't help at times
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Post by: JConk007 on November 03, 2014, 11:12:04 AM
Sunday is Funday
Gearing down for the year with a great 1 year old birthday / sunday football party
Windy and wonderful.


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Post by: JConk007 on November 03, 2014, 11:16:12 AM
better off indoors in this weather !
Same oven I  built in my backyard ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on November 03, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
ove the way the lights make the setup look
Engagement party for 75
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Post by: weemis on November 03, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
the built in oven is great! looks like you're rockin it out as always!
what's on the arugula pie?
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Post by: Chaze215 on November 03, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
Is that the temp reading on the top right of the Earthstone oven?
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Post by: JConk007 on November 03, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
Nick,
It's the green pointer from paulie gee! I do a light white base some smoked mozzarella and robiola cheese, then arugula, olive oil, shaved Parmesan and a squeeze of lemon. DELISH
CHAZ
Yes that's the temp gauge certainly not the outdoor thermometer  :-D  I have on my oven also but it's dial not digital. And not a good representation of true temp as it up in the dome
Are you concerned with the VPN temps ?
FYI I took that pic when I got there as I knew I  would be a bit busy solo.
Gauge got up to 835 after 2 more hours but gun read 825 floor 950 dome so as I said more do a ( wrong) conversation piece  ;)
Chaz do you recognize the other engagement party thought you would pick up on that too it was you maiden voyage in the mobile business you came and helped me out  same spot last year  different child got engaged not same one .
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Post by: MartyE on November 03, 2014, 11:37:47 PM
John,

Where are you at these days on hydration and ball weight? When I get much above 60% I find it difficult to open the dough without thin spots. I have been using 270g for 13", but I think I may need to go smaller until I get better at opening. This is with Caputo flour.

Marty
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Post by: JConk007 on November 04, 2014, 09:24:47 AM
255Gram  60- 62% based on weather / temp / timing
What's your opening technique? slap stretch? Gentle knuckle stretch,
This dough will stretch itself when the stars align:)
 
John
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Post by: MartyE on November 05, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
I use my finger tips for the initial press out of the dough on the work surface and finish with a knuckle stretch. I need to practice the slap stretch to see if I can make that work better for me.
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Post by: Chaze215 on November 07, 2014, 04:34:39 PM
I use my finger tips for the initial press out of the dough on the work surface and finish with a knuckle stretch. I need to practice the slap stretch to see if I can make that work better for me.
Marty, try using more of the fingers instead of just the tips. I learned this from watching many many videos on those more experienced than myself. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by: JConk007 on November 11, 2014, 09:35:14 AM
Last (scheduled) gig of the year  :'(
Had My 8.75 Year old daughter helping as my staff went to work at a Brick and Mortar
But with some VPN training from Daddy she did great !! She is so happy making pizza !
She loves it just like Me!
John
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Post by: thezaman on November 11, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
 watch it john, looks like a amano pie!!! hope Kelly is happy in her current position :chef:
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Post by: norma427 on November 11, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
John,

Your daughter looks so happy making pizza.  Her pie looks delicious!   ;D  Of course she had great training.   :chef:

Norma
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Post by: deb415611 on November 12, 2014, 06:24:23 AM
awesome, looks like Kelly is a natural
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Post by: weemis on November 12, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
So are you saying no to people wanting to book you until next spring? Or have people just stopped wanting to schedule events?

I'm taking gigs up through the middle of december, but it's always a tough decision as to when to stop for the year. Weather's a crap shoot.
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Post by: JConk007 on November 12, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
I am saying No - Yes
did a few last winter and its brutal! oven covered in salt snow slush, cold hands hard dugh to work with
Blood Money for sure
J
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Post by: pcampbell on November 15, 2014, 05:17:34 PM
Hi John.. hope all is going well down south!

Love all the pictures.  Everything looks great.  you look like you are staying busy and having fun.



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Post by: TXCraig1 on November 15, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
How awesome is she!
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Post by: gd125 on August 07, 2015, 10:15:20 AM
Jconk
Im addicted to your thread! LOL.  I read a few threads every day and am getting to the end and have learned so much.

On your sprouts and pancetta pie ...do you use a white sauce?.if so how do you make a white sauce?

Also on your lemon pie which looks mouthwatering is that white sauce also?...

Ill send you some pics of the pizzzas i have made using your tecnhiques.  Thanks so much for inspiring me and having accurate information thats easy to follow.

Gary
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Post by: gd125 on August 07, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
Here's some pics of the neopolitan pies I've learned to make after reading this thread. Thanks for all the tips and techniques and all who contributed to this forum. I love seeing mobile setups and how they operate . Hope to see this thread active in future .
Gary
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Post by: gd125 on August 07, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
My apologies for pics being sideways but hopefully you can see them.
Thanks
Gary
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Post by: Pete-zza on August 07, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
My apologies for pics being sideways but hopefully you can see them.
Thanks
Gary
Since the forum's software is unable to fix misoriented photos, and with no fix in sight, I fixed your photos. In the future, you might upload your photos to a desktop computer to be sure they are properly oriented before posting, or you can use the photo test website at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=33199.msg328718#msg328718 (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=33199.msg328718#msg328718) to orient your photos correctly.

Peter
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: gd125 on August 07, 2015, 02:18:33 PM
Thanks Peter!
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Post by: JConk007 on August 07, 2015, 09:40:20 PM
Thanks Gary !!
I appreciate the kind words, and glad and others have gained even a pointer or 2.  I posted as much as possible to share with others who " have a dream"  and a touch of passion. always willing to give back what was so freely given to me  ;) your pies look great ! and hope your are enjoying eating them  as well!!
 If Y'all have not heard  "Flirting with Fire has Relocated to the Chapel Hill area of North Carolina. I have been staying in tune with the Pizza using the home oven and Blackstone now that it has arrived
Moving @#!$  %$#@$ to say the least . We are finally settled in and I have my family here .... and after a nice break-  some tennis, little  golf and pickle ball , Yep playin Pickle 3-4 times a week now  :o I am ready to return to the fire. Good news is I have found experienced pizza help and have the first NC gig booked at my tennis club for August 22nd  :chef: Cant wait !! Here we go again back in the dough !!
thanks again all  a few from the past always get me in pizza gear !
see you in a few weeks!!
John
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Post by: JConk007 on August 07, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
Feel free to start a thread with your pies and adventures  so we can all follow your progress lots of good people and tons of knowledge on here post em up!
john
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: gd125 on August 14, 2015, 02:37:55 AM
Those pies look delicious John. I'm very excited to further follow your thread and looking forward to hearing your pizza adventures in your new area. I will try and post a new thread once I can get some events going and pics .
Gary
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Post by: JConk007 on August 14, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Most excellent ! here to help  :chef:
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: knockiton on September 18, 2015, 07:46:50 PM
Hi John,

I'm relatively new to this site and have been reading and re-reading your thread for the past several months. The information your are sharing is priceless! And your pizzas... just absolutely mouth-watering.
What you have shared here, INSPIRES me to follow my dream and take it to the next level!!!! I've been making pizza's on the LBE and hosting weekly pizza parties for family and friends (up to 25 people) for almost a year now. My next step is to get a mobile WFO and jump in feet first.

I hope someday I can contribute here as you do now!!!

Good Luck in N.C. :)

Thanks,
Bob

Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on January 22, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
So it seems like only yesterday I started this thread ? been a while so time for an Update !!
Here we GROW again !
1 year ago move to NC Sadly left behind the oven I built that got me started. I got real busy with work and needed a break.
Approached my  tennis club and asked to do a gig BAM  'Huge success  and Fire was lit again!
Tried to find a place to open restaurant - 2 deals fell thru and I  realized I did not want a 7 day a week biz at this time with a $5000 a month rent and huge build out
also found out an open trailer like I had is a big NO NO here so I had to go stealth and only private 
Thought about a food truck as its very accepted and hot here Rodeos Festivals ... Things happen for a reason right?  WHALA an ad pops up for a Killer pizza trailer which could have well  been in California but turns out was 5 min from House with a commissary and place to park the rig !! Give you 1 guess as to what happens next ? Cash in a few  pennies from NJ and off we go !
1st gig last week!  Art from Ohio Za Mans friend come to help and that boy can cook a pie ! word is out we are Fired up again !!

Gotta change wrap , and get rid of sheeter! :) few other tweaks and hope to go full time and cut the golden Handcuffs worn out on the old job ready to go back to hat I love 1 new Neapolitan truck just opened butt he parks in same place and only 1 other pizza truck doing NY style from Gas deck 
Will try to get back posting about the next leg of my adventure and the differences in the trailer vs full on food truck and how it all works out for those who still want to dive in
Here she is-  The new and Improved Flirting With Fire Mobile .
John
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Post by: JConk007 on January 22, 2016, 10:55:33 PM
Oven Is a Forno Bravo Napoli 120G gas assist  which is sooo cool! .
I can heat up night before or before I head out, arrive at gig  fire it up again for 30 min add wood and whala  up to temp in about 1 hr !
does work for gas alone as well should I have to ever do that ?
Has all the bells and whistle ,67" prep table, Full size Fridge, freezer, 2 burner stove, 2 basket fryer - think Montanara and Zeople :)
possibilities are endless for high end wedding ... this is a pizza making Machine !!
Just need to change wrap, and a few other tweaks an we are off Hang On !
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Post by: parallei on January 22, 2016, 11:02:48 PM
Nice set up John!  I thought you were moving out here to the Mile High City.  You could've taught me the ropes. ;D
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Post by: JConk007 on January 22, 2016, 11:07:12 PM
still can come on over !
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Post by: Matthew on January 23, 2016, 04:26:58 AM
Congrats John; I'm very happy for you!
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Post by: norma427 on January 23, 2016, 07:04:13 AM
Congrats John!  Everything looks awesome!  8)  ;D

Norma
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Post by: makin moves on January 23, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
You will enjoy having everything in one (all in trailer)and not have to worry about weather any longer. Sweet setup enjoy.
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Post by: deb415611 on January 23, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
so awesome!!
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on January 23, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
Thanks all ! Agreed A big part of this business is schlepping and I will not miss that at all ;D ! Pull up, Light up, Make pizza!
Lots of Breweries, festivals... outdoor activities on the radar. As  with the first round takes a good year to get the word out a show the people that
" all pizza is not created equal"  :pizza: n year 3. I was booked almost every weekend from April til Nov. I am still getting calls to do gigs in NJ !
I am excited to get going again and remaining positive that it will all be OK
ciao
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: jeff v on January 23, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
That's so great John! I know you'll do awesome.
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Post by: Pete-zza on January 23, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
John,

In the past you inspired many of our members who aspired to do what you did, so your return to form will we closely watched. Best of luck to you with your new gig.

Peter
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on January 23, 2016, 04:52:24 PM
Thanks Peter ! Yes Happy to help I am a believer of what you give you receive 2 fold :)  I am still getting emails about the mobile bus. and still trying to help thiose who want to give it a go. several have already opened B&M !
This is the real deal if I choose it to be  no more well paid hobby. Don't plan to start full on  until April or so after all ducks are in a row.  I am honestly scared and bit nervous as I am giving up a lot.
However to do what you love and be happy has become  more important than just doing the grind every day. Its  believe in my heart its all gonna be ok and This area is finally getting some decent pizza ! I have been working on my pie as we all do on my blackstone and mobile which I will never sell.
I have been doing pizza  research for a year and kinda scary results Now we Have a Blaze Pizza ( squish)  Opening up  1.5  miles  bout 6 months out and a new Pizza Napoletana  in prob. 1 month  about 2.5 miles from My house :( 
Will watch closely  befriend them as always, and wish them the best !

John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: Pizza Baker on January 24, 2016, 08:08:49 AM
Nice looking pizzas John. I look forward to meeting in person. Jim
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on January 24, 2016, 11:13:29 AM
yes sir Thanks ,  let me know what works for you. looking forward to it !
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Post by: Chaze215 on January 24, 2016, 02:01:35 PM
Looking good Johnny! If/when I ever make it down that way, you know no will be hitting you up! Best of luck! But you won't need it.
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Post by: gd125 on January 28, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
John, Great looking set up and wish you the best out there in your new area.  Im sure people will appreciate the quality and taste of your wood fired pies compared to blaze and other franchisees that are popping up.  The live fire plays a big role with flavor and mesmerizes people.  Your thread has been very informative so thanks for the motivation and I look forward to hearing about your future events and experiences.

Gary
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Post by: ErinM on August 12, 2016, 08:04:16 PM
Wow! A facebook post you just put up, and a link to a street food tracking map, made me come back here to see what was going on. How did I miss all that new exciting news like 8 months ago!?

I love the look of the new truck! And the oven looks great too. Being one who must set up a small marquee, floor, prep fridge, many tables, a banner, menu  board and every other thing that must be set up outside the oven trailer to start working... well... that all-in-one truck just looks so appealing to me! I hope it serves you very well in this new (not so new now) venture and that going full time with mobile pizza pays off quickly and makes life more enjoyable for you and your family.

Good luck! I'm sure you'll smash it out of the park.
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Post by: mathiaspizzeria on January 25, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
Wow this is so inspiring! Just finished the entire thread and ate it up!  :pizza: Your journey is exactly what my family wants to do, it's so awesome to see  how successful and most importantly, how happy you are doing it! I am drooling over that giant all in one trailer!  :drool:
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Post by: JConk007 on January 25, 2017, 10:24:59 PM
Thank you !!
Let me know if you have any questions ! I am happy to help anyone who has the desire drive and Passion to go for it ! Oh  and p.s. I can now provide a really great Mobile oven to follow your dream  ;)
Ciao !
John
Title: Re: FLIRTING WITH FIRE !
Post by: JConk007 on February 03, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
Well hey all !  Just checking in with my pizza Peeps! Holy Crap its been a year since I posted here ?
 YES I am still at it ! well Flirting with Fire is still going strong. I jump on maybe once a month to keep my finger in the dough. I just schedule at this point as I am now full time with Marra Forni. UPDATE  on the trailer the Forno Bravo Basically was just not meant to be on a trailer Nothing against them and it was a good oven and made a great pizza !  but started shifting  and I got nervous if something were to happen. So working with Marra I replaced the oven with a NP110G  and rebuilt the back end of the trailer ( $ almost more than Oven) and going strong and oven has not moved millimeter ! Also redid Logo and brand for the Business which I never even posted ? so Here we go into season 7 with a good manager who loves to make pizza ! Getting  busy around Raleigh area  and Neapolitan is gaining some traction another truck opened and a Pizza cone truck on the way now too !
Here she is below with the new logo and Branding  Missed you guys !
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Post by: TXCraig1 on February 03, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
Awesome John!
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Post by: scott r on February 03, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
congrats john, the pizza and logo and oven look great!