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Offline vincentoc13

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Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« on: November 09, 2021, 05:53:56 PM »
Just found out my supplier of LDMP (The New York Baker), is no longer selling the product  :'(  Can anyone please let me know where to source it?

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2021, 06:32:25 PM »
Amazon has many choices.

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2021, 06:39:50 PM »
My suggestion would be to buy the Red Star product which is 60 degree Lintner and use 1/3 of what you'd use of the NY Baker's LDMP.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2021, 06:53:30 PM »
My suggestion would be to buy the Red Star product which is 60 degree Lintner and use 1/3 of what you'd use of the NY Baker's LDMP.
Great! I appreciate the response, Red Star it is Then!

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2021, 07:25:04 PM »
Amazon has many choices.
The ones I saw on Amazon didn't have the litner rating posted, so I was just trying to find something similar to the one I was using.

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 01:03:58 PM »
I buy KA's LDMP.  Has worked well for me.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 06:00:06 PM »
I buy KA's LDMP.  Has worked well for me.
  sounds good, what's percentage do you use it at?

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2022, 06:07:35 AM »
  sounds good, what's percentage do you use it at?

2%
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2022, 01:30:05 PM »
2% can definitely work, but it's on the high side and is enough to meaningfully degrade the dough in some extended fermentations.

Note that it's 10X what the Dough Doctor (RIP) recommended as a starting point.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2022, 01:59:38 PM »
I found that adding too much gives the crust a pronounced yeasty flavor. Anyone else experience this?

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2022, 02:40:10 PM »
I found that adding too much gives the crust a pronounced yeasty flavor. Anyone else experience this?
I describe it as malty.

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2022, 10:29:03 AM »
2% can definitely work, but it's on the high side and is enough to meaningfully degrade the dough in some extended fermentations.

Note that it's 10X what the Dough Doctor (RIP) recommended as a starting point.

I took 2% as a starting point from Tony Gemignani's book, The Pizza Bible.  Have had good results with it and have never detected any malt flavoring.  Tom's recommendation of .25% seems mighty low to me and am not sure at that level what the benefit would be.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2022, 10:33:21 AM »
I started at 2% and had some difficulties. I worked my down and ended up at 0.2% (20L). Like everything else pizza, YRMV.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2022, 10:40:33 AM »
I started at 2% and had some difficulties. I worked my down and ended up at 0.2% (20L). Like everything else pizza, YRMV.

Which brand did you use?

My only reason to use LDM was to improve browning in my home oven.  Am in the process of experimenting with higher hydrations (70%+) to try and achieve good browning and eliminating LDM altogether.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2022, 02:10:45 PM »
Either the NY Baker's product or the one from Tony Gemignani.
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2022, 05:35:40 PM »
Craig mentioned Tony Gemignani, here's where you can order his (Central Milling) LDMP: http://www.giovannispecialties.com/product/tony-gemignani-low-diastatic-malt/

It's flat rate shipping so I threw some Caputo semolina into my order as well.

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2022, 02:04:56 AM »
I took 2% as a starting point from Tony Gemignani's book, The Pizza Bible.  Have had good results with it and have never detected any malt flavoring.  Tom's recommendation of .25% seems mighty low to me and am not sure at that level what the benefit would be.
Note that Tony's LDMP is 20 litners, so divide that by three for the most commonly available LDMP which seems to be around 60 litners.

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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2022, 07:42:30 AM »
I buy KA's LDMP.  Has worked well for me.

Is the KA DMP low?  It didn't use to be.... here is an old post that was confirmed with King Arthur that it was not  https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=34845.msg349179;topicseen#msg349179
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2022, 07:43:05 AM »
Is the KA DMP low?  It didn't use to be.... here is an old post that was confirmed with King Arthur that it was not  https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=34845.msg349179;topicseen#msg349179

maybe it has changed but I'd be surprised if it was because the product label does not say low
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Re: Low Diastatic Malt Powder
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2022, 07:56:12 AM »
maybe it has changed but I'd be surprised if it was because the product label does not say low
I don't believe it's changed. I looked it up a couple weeks ago and it was still at 100 litner. That being said, I believe the high end of the scale is 210 which still makes KA LDMP. Below is a link to a 210
https://breadtopia.com/store/organic-diastatic-barley-malt-powder/

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