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Offline Puzzolento

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Steel from Welding Supplier?
« on: January 04, 2022, 11:08:45 PM »
I like plain old NYC pizza, not the high-temperature hipster stuff. I have been baking on a ceramic stone for a long time. The tops of my thin pizzas come out perfect at 500. The undersides are very good, too, but I wonder if they could be better.

I am thinking of trying baking on steel. Can I just go get a square of 3/8" hot-rolled plate from my welding supplier? I don't want to pay three figures for a slab of metal when I can get it for a few dollars.

I have a 1/4" plate I was going to make into a griddle for steaks, and I could always throw it in the oven and try it for pizza, but from what I'm reading, 1/4" may be too thin for pizza.
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2022, 11:36:25 PM »
1/4 okay, just might need a lot of recovery time for multiple pies.

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 06:12:34 AM »
1/4in is perfectly fine for pizza, however you'll need to give it time to recover between bakes.

1/2in is definitely better in that sense.


You'll want A36 steel.  I called my local shop and had them cut out 2 sheets for my oven.  I soaked them overnight in vinegar, cleaned them, and oiled them up.


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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2022, 08:43:40 AM »
Why A36?

I'm not sure they have anything else, but I am curious.
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2022, 08:55:35 AM »
This is a good read on buying a steel plate of you haven't seen it.

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=31267.msg310998#msg310998

My take on why A36...it is pretty generic steel. There are some specialty steels like weathering steel A588 that develop a patina that you don't want. But in the end, you just want basic steel. No sense paying more for higher than normal tensile strengths or anything else.

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2022, 09:52:53 AM »
I would disagree that 1/4" is thick enough - even for a single pie. Better than nothing for sure, but not optimal.
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 10:48:03 AM »
I purchased a 3/8” piece of steel from a local ironworks several years ago, before there were specific products on the market. It works beautifully. Very heavy though- i was lucky to have the supplier right down the road instead of having to ship it. They were amused by my request and had never heard of baking on steel, but happy to cut it to my specs. I followed the instructions on the forum for properly cleaning and preparing it.

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2022, 10:50:53 AM »
I like plain old NYC pizza, not the high-temperature hipster stuff.

Not gonna let this slide under the radar  :-D

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2022, 10:57:17 AM »
Not gonna let this slide under the radar  :-D


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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2022, 09:27:22 AM »
My oven is able to close with a 17"x17" x 3/8" steel.  I picked up a piece of A36 at Metal Supermarkets, ground the edges smooth, pickled in vinegar, neutralized it with baking soda and water.  I then seasoned it with olive oil for three cycles.  This steel works better than any type of stone I've tried, I even sold my outside pizza oven.  One hour preheat at 500 degrees on the second to the highest rack level.

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2022, 09:29:22 AM »
Why pickle it? Does the scale cause problems?
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2022, 07:03:04 PM »
Not gonna let this slide under the radar  :-D

If New York pizza was good enough for Clemenza and Tessio, it's good enough for me!
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2022, 06:33:03 PM »
When I started looking into steel I was planning to go the raw steel and clean up route. After factoring in cost and effort, decided to hunt a bit harder for ready made.

Found this guy on Amazon who has has just about every option possible on steel from raw to seasoned and in just about every size you might be looking for. You might give him a look. I got a very nice 16”x18” 3/8” laser cut rounded corners and handle, smoothed edges and seasoned for about $100 earlier this year. Prices have gone up a bit since, but so has cost of everything else.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2TWENTYTWO+STEEL+DESIGNS%2C+LLC&ref=bl_dp_s_web_0
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2022, 06:33:08 PM »
It's important to pickle your steel plate to remove contaminants the are on the surface of new steel.  My vinegar was totally nasty after pickling it.  I'd rather wash the contaminants away than eat them.  I just lined a cardboard box with plastic to use as a tank.

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2022, 07:13:05 PM »
This would make me a high-temperature oldster :-D

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2022, 10:09:27 AM »
If New York pizza was good enough for Clemenza and Tessio, it's good enough for me!

Listen, don't get me wrong.  I, too, would take a NY slice over high-temp pizzas.

Just the way you said "high-temperature hipster stuff."   :-D

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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2022, 06:18:22 PM »
I remember paying I think $46 from a steel fabricator for a 16x16x1/2 plate. Yes it was extremely heavy.

It had mill scale, however mill scale is NON TOXIC, so removing it just for cosmetic purposes.
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2022, 10:04:40 PM »
I remember paying I think $46 from a steel fabricator for a 16x16x1/2 plate. Yes it was extremely heavy.

It had mill scale, however mill scale is NON TOXIC, so removing it just for cosmetic purposes.


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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2022, 10:32:12 PM »

Welcome Back.  Thought you were dead.

Lol, don't plan on dying just yet!

Moving to new place with a smaller oven made some of my equipment useless (peel too big, stone too big). I've been eyeing the carbon pizza for a while.

So if I buy that I'll definitely a lot post more. Right now I plan on making some dough tomorrow actually. I have a smaller stone and a Detroit pan.
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Re: Steel from Welding Supplier?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2022, 05:51:31 AM »
Why pickle it? Does the scale cause problems?
I would pickle it and get that scale off. Dunno about in the states, but over here that crap's got all sorts of nasty greases and oils on it.
I'd specifically look for a piece that isn't already showing signs of surface rust, pickle it (I'd probably use dilute hydrochloric acid), then I'd season it with oil.
I saw some stuff a while back where they explained about the polymerisation that happens when its done properly with the right sort of oil and how that seals the surface and pretty much makes it non stick and rust resistant. Of course a clean, just oiled piece of steel is going develop a hard shiny black surface just from cooking pizza.
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