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Title: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: MuffinFTW on August 16, 2018, 05:15:23 AM
I'm from the Orange County area, and just wondering what are your guys favorite New York style pizzeria in the O.C. area? I'm looking for new places to try :)
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hotsawce on August 18, 2018, 01:41:53 PM
Make a short trip up to Prime in LA.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: MuffinFTW on August 18, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
Make a short trip up to Prime in LA.

I've been meaning to try it. Is that even the best NY slice in LA though? Still looking for OC places though :(
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jsaras on August 18, 2018, 07:54:39 PM
Is that even the best NY slice in LA though?

No.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Essen1 on August 18, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
No.

Lol...straight to the point.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: MuffinFTW on August 19, 2018, 01:50:38 AM
No.

What would you say is? :) I havenít tried many pizza places in LA yet.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jsaras on August 19, 2018, 10:14:31 AM
What would you say is? :) I havenít tried many pizza places in LA yet.

For NY-centric pizza you could hit up Tomato Pie Pizza Joint, Vitoís on La Cieniga, or Grimaldiís if you want a coal oven pizza.  I havenít been to Appoloniaís yet, but their squares look unbelievable
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: MuffinFTW on August 24, 2018, 08:23:39 PM
For NY-centric pizza you could hit up Tomato Pie Pizza Joint, Vitoís on La Cieniga, or Grimaldiís if you want a coal oven pizza.  I havenít been to Appoloniaís yet, but their squares look unbelievable

I've had Vito's and it's good and definitely authentic. I'll try Tomato Pie Pizza Joint next! Any other suggestions for the best NY-centric pizza places in LA?

Also, if anyone still reads this, I'm still looking for good OC area spots!
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: tinroofrusted on August 24, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
I'm from the Orange County area, and just wondering what are your guys favorite New York style pizzeria in the O.C. area? I'm looking for new places to try :)

No need to travel to LA for a NY slice.  Try Johnny's New York Pizza in Newport Beach.  There are two locations.  It's good. 

http://www.johnnysrealnypizza.com/ (http://www.johnnysrealnypizza.com/)

It's not New York style but my favorite pizzeria in Orange County, is Pitfire Pizza in Costa Mesa, so if you haven't tried that, give it a go. Very good pizza in my book.
http://www.pitfirepizza.com/costa-mesa (http://www.pitfirepizza.com/costa-mesa)
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hotsawce on August 25, 2018, 11:54:18 PM
Prime s#$*s on all of them. How do I know? I literally live among the best examples of NY pizza. Don't talk NY pizza to a NYer...

Why is Prime better than the garbage you listed? It's the only spot that attempts to cook even close to hot enough, gets the thickness factor right, uses the right ingredients.... oh, and Frank from Best consulted on that pie - and Best Pizza is one of the Best slices in NYC.

Tomato Pie and Vito's are slow baked, 10 minute plus dried out pieces of crap compared to Prime. You going to trust the warped view of a Californian on NY pizza? No. Don't. Prime is worth it. Trust me.

For NY-centric pizza you could hit up Tomato Pie Pizza Joint, Vitoís on La Cieniga, or Grimaldiís if you want a coal oven pizza.  I havenít been to Appoloniaís yet, but their squares look unbelievable
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hotsawce on August 25, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
It is. By a long shot.

I've been meaning to try it. Is that even the best NY slice in LA though? Still looking for OC places though :(
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jsaras on August 26, 2018, 12:12:01 AM
Prime s#$*s on all of them. How do I know? I literally live among the best examples of NY pizza. Don't talk NY pizza to a NYer...

Why is Prime better than the garbage you listed? It's the only spot that attempts to cook even close to hot enough, gets the thickness factor right, uses the right ingredients.... oh, and Frank from Best consulted on that pie - and Best Pizza is one of the Best slices in NYC.

Tomato Pie and Vito's are slow baked, 10 minute plus dried out pieces of crap compared to Prime. You going to trust the warped view of a Californian on NY pizza? No. Don't. Prime is worth it. Trust me.

The blend of KASL and Caputo was just OK and the sausage on the pizza was less than OK.  If that's your definition of the "correct" ingredients for NY pizza,  then I much prefer the "garbage". 
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hotsawce on August 26, 2018, 10:19:57 AM
At least you admit you donít know NY pizza.

Again, Frank uses a blend of 00 and malted flour - itís not a detriment with the fermentation method they use. By the way, itís not KASL..... so youíre clearly misguided.

You like a pale, overbaked, 10 minute pie. Thatís fine. Donít call it NY pizza.

Prime is the only good NY pizza Iíve had in the area. Little Oven in Merced is probably the only other great NY slice in your state.

Again, Iím not saying Prime is the best example Iíve had of the style but itís certainly the closest thing you got there

The blend of KASL and Caputo was just OK and the sausage on the pizza was less than OK.  If that's your definition of the "correct" ingredients for NY pizza,  then I much prefer the "garbage".
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: tinroofrusted on August 26, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
This is starting to remind me of a Scott123 thread ( in the of days).  Hotsawce, you are kind of endearing with your NY pizza orthodoxy, but please remember to be courteous to those of us who have not had the benefit of a NYC upbringing. 
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jsaras on August 26, 2018, 11:26:17 AM
At least you admit you donít know NY pizza.

Again, Frank uses a blend of 00 and malted flour - itís not a detriment with the fermentation method they use. By the way, itís not KASL..... so youíre clearly misguided.

You like a pale, overbaked, 10 minute pie. Thatís fine. Donít call it NY pizza.

Prime is the only good NY pizza Iíve had in the area. Little Oven in Merced is probably the only other great NY slice in your state.

Again, Iím not saying Prime is the best example Iíve had of the style but itís certainly the closest thing you got there

It was KA Sir Galahad flour (I knew it was a KA flour).  When I had lunch there the bake time was between eight to nine minutes for a large pizza (you can find my Yelp review from three years ago).  By YOUR definition, it is not a NY pizza.  Other than it having loose association in the past with Frank Pinello, I donít understand your adoration of this place. 


Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on August 26, 2018, 06:58:31 PM
Chill.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: nikesparq on August 28, 2018, 02:57:13 AM
In a recent Youtube video, some young filmmakers visited four spots in L.A. in search of NY style pizza: Prime, Mozza, Lamonica and Pizzanista.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4KT_vHX3Q
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jsaras on August 28, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
In a recent Youtube video, some young filmmakers visited four spots in L.A. in search of NY style pizza: Prime, Mozza, Lamonica and Pizzanista.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4KT_vHX3Q

Mozza isnít a NY pizza and never pretends to be that.  Itís a Cali-politan, if there is such a thing.  If one takes the preconceived stylistic element out of the judging criteria, it is the best pizza they tried.  It just is.

Pizzanista is a very solid pizza that would be even better if they used a little less cheese IMO.  However, they use hybrid leavening.  This would take them out of the NY category for the fundamentalists out there, but I have no such delusions of purity.  As I recall, itís 20% sourdough mixed into their batches of dough that have ADY in them, which are then cold fermented.

Lamonicaís uses frozen commisary dough.  If thatís their ideal slice, then I guess thereís a lid for every pot :-}
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on August 28, 2018, 01:05:33 PM
guess thereís a lid for every pot :-}

I was doubting that a few minutes ago making ramen for my son.  But whattaya know, there it is!

Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hammettjr on August 28, 2018, 08:39:05 PM
In a recent Youtube video, some young filmmakers visited four spots in L.A. in search of NY style pizza: Prime, Mozza, Lamonica and Pizzanista.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4KT_vHX3Q

I was expecting the worst, but was pleasantly surprised. The only pie in that video that is all-around unappealing to me is Prime. (Though obviously I'm judging purely based on the visual.)

Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: New Restaurant on November 12, 2018, 12:36:43 PM
Seemed pretty honest and real, IMO.  However, being a NYC guy for like 30 years or so, without midtown Manhattan traffic, a loud background filled with car horns beeping, a police car or two or three and a fire truck attempting to get through the standing traffic with their sirens blaring and air horns going, without several people yelling into their cell phones everyday cuss words and assorted other NYC everyday 'stuff', it just ain't NYC pizza somewhere else, even if it taste the same.  Oh yeah, standing on the NYC sidewalk, bold legged, eating that slice you just got at the sidewalk window, adds that unwritten quintessential extra taste of NYC pizza, instead of on the bench along the nice quite & clean streets of S. California, IMO anyways.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hotsawce on November 12, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
Come on, you know better. That screen baked pizza better than the two hearth baked ones?  ::)

Trash video trash tastebuds.

I was expecting the worst, but was pleasantly surprised. The only pie in that video that is all-around unappealing to me is Prime. (Though obviously I'm judging purely based on the visual.)
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hammettjr on November 12, 2018, 09:25:21 PM
Come on, you know better. That screen baked pizza better than the two hearth baked ones?  ::)

Trash video trash tastebuds.

Not enough sauce or cheese for me to be interested. Looks like a "lite" flatbread

Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: wotavidone on November 17, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
I'd a voted for the Pizzanista, just based on the softer crust and the dripping oil.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Glutenboy on February 23, 2019, 08:17:56 PM
I visited Prime a while back and wasn't too impressed.  Though I disagree with the guys in the video that LaMonica is good, I thought they hit the nail on the head where Prime is concerned.  The crust was very not bad; though I didn't see the color, top or bottom, that would've resulted from a particularly hot oven.  The topping, though, was kind of dry and joyless.  The price of a large sausage pizza, however, probably brought Prime's management a great deal of joy.  If the Pizzanista slice hadn't had a doughy-looking white bottom, it would have won the visual competition for me.  Out of the pizza they tried, it probably did anyway.  Mozza is very good, but, as Jonas said, it doesn't belong anywhere on this particular list.

Oh!  Yeah!  This thread was asking where good NY-style pizza could be found in OC.  Sorry!

I have no idea.  ???
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on February 25, 2019, 01:15:23 PM
Not enough sauce or cheese for me to be interested. Looks like a "lite" flatbread


Late-to-the-party, but I wouldn't write that off based on looks.  $3.50 for a slice is nuts.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Glutenboy on February 27, 2019, 03:03:54 AM

Late-to-the-party, but I wouldn't write that off based on looks.  $3.50 for a slice is nuts.
I'm writing it off based on eating it.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Little bean on February 27, 2019, 04:05:28 AM
I was doubting that a few minutes ago making ramen for my son.  But whattaya know, there it is!

You shouldnít store things in the cans in the fridge.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on March 05, 2019, 11:32:39 PM
You shouldnít store things in the cans in the fridge.

It was fresh.  It went in a Cambro.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Little bean on March 06, 2019, 09:12:01 PM
It was fresh.  It went in a Cambro.

Thatís good, botulism is real
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on March 07, 2019, 08:21:17 AM
Thatís good, botulism is real

pfft...  I eat botulism for breakfast.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Pazzo on March 07, 2019, 06:29:31 PM
This is the most entertaining thread I've read on here.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: TheDukeofNY on March 08, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
Seemed pretty honest and real, IMO.  However, being a NYC guy for like 30 years or so, without midtown Manhattan traffic, a loud background filled with car horns beeping, a police car or two or three and a fire truck attempting to get through the standing traffic with their sirens blaring and air horns going, without several people yelling into their cell phones everyday cuss words and assorted other NYC everyday 'stuff', it just ain't NYC pizza somewhere else, even if it taste the same.  Oh yeah, standing on the NYC sidewalk, bold legged, eating that slice you just got at the sidewalk window, adds that unwritten quintessential extra taste of NYC pizza, instead of on the bench along the nice quite & clean streets of S. California, IMO anyways.

Would agree with this. Context is somewhat important as is presentation of food in say, French cuisine.  a hot and humid NY summer, and a slice at 11pm on paper plate with the honking horns and the dirt and grime off the street cleaners. 
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: hammettjr on March 09, 2019, 03:28:03 PM
I'm reminded of the comment below. I liked it and was surprised it didn't generate discussion

...I've recently started to think about the related idea that pizza, like wine, has a sense of place. And perhaps pizza, like wine, tastes better in the places where it was originally made?

People come from all over the world to try nyc pizza. Yet the technology and ingredients exist everywhere in the U.S. to produce great nyc style pizza. Why isn't there great nyc pizza in LA (for instance)? Could it be that it doesn't taste as good in a place where it's always sunny and the people are a little more laid back? Maybe people need to eat nyc pizza in nyc, where it's a little grimy, the servers are fast and surly and cars have the right of way over pedestrians in every situation.

Likewise, why hasn't ca pizza taken off in nyc? Maybe to  really appreciate ca pizza we need to sit outside, surrounded by blue skies, the warmth of the sun on our face while sipping a good a ca wine.

Best,
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Pazzo on March 09, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
I'm reminded of the comment below. I liked it and was surprised it didn't generate discussion

That is a great comment by quietdesperation, and very true. I used to drink Tomasi Valpolicella at Piazza Erbe in Verona and it was amazing. The first time I grabbed a bottle in the states and opened it up I thought maybe my pallet was more sophisticated and I didn't enjoy the wine anymore. I realized that I still had the pallet of a high school sophomore when it comes to wine and it was the atmosphere that changed, not the wine or my taste.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: jkb on March 09, 2019, 08:47:09 PM
I'm reminded of the comment below. I liked it and was surprised it didn't generate discussion

Pizza and wine are both simple.  Wine takes time and terroir.  Pizza is just minutes with commodity ingredients.  There lies the difference.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Gian323 on March 20, 2019, 01:28:54 PM
Depends what you want. In downtown Fullerton I usually get a cheese (plain) slice at the Bowery. Not a traditional NY slice as they go a bit heavy on the toppings but great quality and flavors regardless. Not a big fan of the pesto and ricotta slice but their "butcher" and "Luau" slices are excellent.

Havent tried Johnny's in Newport but it's on my to-do list now.

I agree that for a better NY slice LA is where it's at:

Joe's plain (cheese) slice is my favorite in southern CA so far, and their fresh mozz+marinara slice is great

Prime has a great square slice with pesto and ricotta (they're plain in the case and they add pesto post-bake)
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: Glutenboy on April 06, 2019, 08:36:52 PM
Would agree with this. Context is somewhat important as is presentation of food in say, French cuisine.  a hot and humid NY summer, and a slice at 11pm on paper plate with the honking horns and the dirt and grime off the street cleaners.
How do you fit the honking horns on the paper plate again?  ???

Sorry.  I know this one's old, but I can't get enough of the Duke now that he's gone.
Title: Re: Best NY Style Pizzeria in Orange County area?
Post by: adamr06 on June 20, 2019, 04:04:09 AM
Here is the LA episode of The Pizza Show, featuring Prime, Pizzanista, and Delicious.  Unfortunately, they don't stop in OC.  All of the pizza on this video looks very good, but I'm sure they put their best foot forward for the cameras.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_hUMnmrQuI