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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #160 on: October 15, 2021, 05:34:29 PM »
I've owned both machines.  The Sunmix is very easy to clean.  Don't let that stop you if that's the one you want.  It literally takes 5 minutes to clean.  Hot water in the bowl covered with a rag for 5 minutes.  Uncover and use a small towel or dishrag to remove any residue, remove excess water and wipe clean.  Easy Peasy!!!!!!

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« Reply #161 on: October 15, 2021, 07:29:35 PM »
I've owned both machines.  The Sunmix is very easy to clean.  Don't let that stop you if that's the one you want.  It literally takes 5 minutes to clean.  Hot water in the bowl covered with a rag for 5 minutes.  Uncover and use a small towel or dishrag to remove any residue, remove excess water and wipe clean.  Easy Peasy!!!!!!

It’s not only that but also the ability to measure Ingrid right in the bowl etc. Multiple factors here. Order placed - excited to get and use it!!!

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #162 on: October 16, 2021, 08:05:17 PM »
Anyone have the IM-5S HH? Is it really necessary for high hydration? I would think the normal version could get it done.

https://pleasanthillgrain.com/famag-high-hydration-grilletta-spiral-dough-mixer

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #163 on: October 17, 2021, 08:44:52 AM »
Anyone have the IM-5S HH? Is it really necessary for high hydration? I would think the normal version could get it done.

https://pleasanthillgrain.com/famag-high-hydration-grilletta-spiral-dough-mixer

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I’ve placed an order for HH and Chau has the same model that the review was about. The price difference is $60 between the two. Not sure if it makes sense to go without HH option…

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« Reply #164 on: October 17, 2021, 04:52:44 PM »
I’ve placed an order for HH and Chau has the same model that the review was about. The price difference is $60 between the two. Not sure if it makes sense to go without HH option…

The price isn't holding me back as much as the color is. I really love the Marina.

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #165 on: October 18, 2021, 09:28:23 AM »
The price isn't holding me back as much as the color is. I really love the Marina.

Got you. It's a nice looking machine. I went for a classic sparkle silver to kind of match stainless steel - only one on backorder lol

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #166 on: November 12, 2021, 11:48:05 PM »
After waiting for sparkling silver for some time it went to back order until June 2022. Called in to switch the order to the last dark silver unit. Arrived today and I made 80% hydration focaccia dough… wow… that gluten building is amazing… I could never get the pane window test out of my KA before hand kneading.
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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #167 on: December 11, 2021, 03:29:45 PM »
Has anyone had issues with the famag  not working? I bought a brand new Famag IM 10s. Sometimes I press the arrow to turn on, and it just makes this clicking noise. The outlet isn’t the issue. Everything is locked in place. Any suggestions? Sounds almost like a short inside the machine, this clicking noise.
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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #168 on: December 11, 2021, 04:01:12 PM »
so far only good luck with mine

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #169 on: December 11, 2021, 04:04:47 PM »
I'm not an electrician and don't own the machine, but check out this thread and see if it covers what your mixer might be having a problem with.

"Don't know if this is still an issue, but it is likely not a grounding issue, and more the nature of the Famag speed controller.  If the Famag uses a VFD to control the speed, these are known to not work well with GFCI outlets.  So you probably don't have a grounding issue, you're just using an appliance in an outlet that isn't suited for it.  A quick google search for 'VFD GFCI' will bring up numerous pages."

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=66546.msg665344#msg665344

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #170 on: December 11, 2021, 07:10:16 PM »
not that this means anything, but mine is on a gfci and has always been fine

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #171 on: December 12, 2021, 01:03:42 PM »
Has anyone had issues with the famag  not working? I bought a brand new Famag IM 10s. Sometimes I press the arrow to turn on, and it just makes this clicking noise. The outlet isn’t the issue. Everything is locked in place. Any suggestions? Sounds almost like a short inside the machine, this clicking noise.

Yes, there are several safety mechanisms to stop the machine so you don't hurt yourself. I learned this after thinking there was something wrong with my machine, like you. Try making sure the top is fully down, locked in and the screws are tight. I believe if the screws are not fully tightened, it will not turn on. Same thing with the grate over the bowl.

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #172 on: December 12, 2021, 07:33:44 PM »
not that this means anything, but mine is on a gfci and has always been fine
Me too.  VFD's and GFCI's can be a problem, but probably not in this size, or Famag has taken this into account in their design.  But it's something easy for PC105105 to check by seeing if the outlet is actually tripped or plugging the unit into a non-GFCI outlet.  Or, call his supplier rather than rely on pizzamaking.com to resolve this.

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« Reply #173 on: December 13, 2021, 10:33:35 AM »
Here is a bit of trivia about GFCI outlets. Copied from Fluke web site. Fluke makes electronic test equipment.

"A GFCI uses a current transformer to detect the difference between the line current supplied to the load and the neutral current returning from the load. Ideally, this difference should be zero because both currents cancel. If there is a current differential, it becomes the input to a comparator within the GFCI, which changes states when the differential is around 6 mA. When the comparator changes states, it triggers a silicon-controlled rectifier, which disconnects the power from the output of the GFCI."

"GFCIs should be checked monthly by operating the push-buttons on the front labeled "Test" and "Reset." In addition to checking for proper operation, monthly testing also makes sure the mechanical components of the receptacle are in working order. Simple GFCI testers are available for less than $15, or for less than $150, you can purchase a high-quality, industrial electrical tester can check for energized circuits, test AC and DC voltages, resistance, continuity, and phase rotation between any two phases and GFCIs."


"What causes a GFCI to trip

When a GFCI outlet keeps tripping, there must be a reason. Instead of just resetting the GFCI, you should also investigate the cause of the trip.

Ground faults occur when electrical current finds an unintended path to ground. The usual suspects for ground-faults include worn insulation, conductive dusts, water, or other "soft grounds." Ground faults account for more than 80% of equipment short circuits and in 90% of those cases it is caused by insulation deterioration on wires and cables. If a human becomes the unintended path, current as low as 75 mA can trigger ventricular fibrillation (i.e., when the heart stops pumping, which leads to cardiac arrest).

Another name for a ground fault is leakage current. Although wiring insulation is designed to keep electricity in the conductor, all insulators have some conductivity. While not perfect, even air can be an insulator. Insulation conducts current through both electrically resistive and capacitive paths. If insulation is old or damaged its resistance is lower and leakage current could become substantial. The insulation protecting longer conductors has higher capacitance, which can cause even more leakage current.

On GFCI-protected circuits, leakage current can cause unnecessary and intermittent tripping. When troubleshooting these intermittent "ghost" trips, sometimes looking for the leakage current culprit can be costly. When many pieces of equipment are operating on a circuit, the leakage current is cumulative and could be in the order of milliamps. Adding more equipment to a GFCI-protected circuit could cause a GFCI to trip randomly, making the problem difficult to diagnose."


"Diagnosing GFCI trips
Start by measuring the leakage current and then identify the source. Use a leakage current clamp meter to make these measurements. Leakage current clamp meters are similar to clamp meters used for measuring load currents; however, leakage current clamp meters perform much better when measuring current below 5 mA.

Test single-phase circuits by clamping the phase and neutral conductors. Test three-phase circuits by clamping around all phase conductors. If a neutral is present, clamp it too. The measured value will be any current flowing to ground. To measure the total leakage flowing to the intended ground connection, place the clamp around the ground conductor.

Measure the leakage current on each leg of the circuit to identify which one has considerably more leakage than the others. If one leg has a suspiciously high leakage current, ensure that the equipment is operating properly. Remember that surge suppression filters and capacitors on the power input of some electronic equipment can increase the overall circuit capacitance, which can increase leakage current. Determine loaded circuit leg leakage with the equipment "on"—switching the equipment "off" allows you to determine just the circuit wiring leakage.

If equipment on all legs is operating properly and the wiring is acceptable, it could be that the cumulative leakage current due to electronic equipment input filtering is just high enough to trigger the random GFCI tripping. In this case, consider redistributing the load on each circuit leg or adding circuits to provide more capacity."



Anybody still awake ?  :-D

Equipment with motors tend to have problems more than other equipment.
I doubt you will find any refrigerator in a kitchen on a GFCI circuit. Mine isn't
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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #174 on: December 19, 2021, 11:23:25 AM »

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #175 on: December 19, 2021, 12:42:09 PM »
Good video, but...

A Siemens Circuit breaker won't just plug into any breaker box.  Different manufactures have different breakers.
There are multiple types of circuit breakers (see link), if you replace one, you should replace it with the right type.

https://www.homedepot.com/c/ab/types-of-circuit-breakers/9ba683603be9fa5395fab900f0d22b4
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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #176 on: December 19, 2021, 01:31:26 PM »
Good video, but...

A Siemens Circuit breaker won't just plug into any breaker box.  Different manufactures have different breakers.
There are multiple types of circuit breakers (see link), if you replace one, you should replace it with the right type.

https://www.homedepot.com/c/ab/types-of-circuit-breakers/9ba683603be9fa5395fab900f0d22b4
They are just mentioning a type that some customers have found to solve the problem.  Presumably those customers replaced one type of GFCI breaker witht the Siemens one.  Most who are considering changing out breakers should probably hire an electrician just like they suggest at the beginning of the video.

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Re: First impressions and review of the Famag IM-5S Spiral mixer
« Reply #177 on: December 28, 2021, 08:47:05 AM »
Has anyone had issues with the famag  not working? I bought a brand new Famag IM 10s. Sometimes I press the arrow to turn on, and it just makes this clicking noise. The outlet isn’t the issue. Everything is locked in place. Any suggestions? Sounds almost like a short inside the machine, this clicking noise.
I've had the machine stop twice on me mid-mix (on GFCI that isn't tripped and on non-GFCI before we get into that again).  And then I experienced the same non-start/ clicking sound you mention.  Both times I reset it by opening the grate, tilting the head up, and closing them back again.  Although the first time I had to do that several times.  I will be contacting Pleasant Hill.  Just wondering if you learned any more about what was going on with your unit.

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« Reply #178 on: January 21, 2022, 09:10:11 AM »
I've had the machine stop twice on me mid-mix (on GFCI that isn't tripped and on non-GFCI before we get into that again).  And then I experienced the same non-start/ clicking sound you mention.  Both times I reset it by opening the grate, tilting the head up, and closing them back again.  Although the first time I had to do that several times.  I will be contacting Pleasant Hill.  Just wondering if you learned any more about what was going on with your unit.

Have you solved the issue?
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« Reply #179 on: January 21, 2022, 09:12:14 AM »
After 8-9 yrs of using a Classic 5qt KA mixer, I finally decided to pull the trigger on a spiral mixer.  My curiosity about the necessity of a "real" mixer for making NP dough has finally pushed me over the edge.   I have used the KA extensively and thoroughly and I want to know if having a fancy mixer will make any difference if at all for my doughs.  Although I don't make a classic (VPN) dough, I am familiar with my dough and my desired crust qualities soa I will be able to tell how much of a difference this mixer will make compared to my KA dough. 
I will also do a review of the mixer and attempt to answer some questions for those who are curious. 

I ordered the Famag IM-5S from pleasanthillgrain.com after some very helpful discussion and advice  from members Scott R and Alex (Doouball).   I ordered this mixer back in the beginning of March and it has been on backorder since then.  I even considered canceling the order several times, but it has finally arrived.   The mixer came packed very well.

More info can be found here.
https://pleasanthillgrain.com/famag-high-hydration-grilletta-spiral-dough-mixer

Chau, what are your thoughts after having the mixer for over six months? Are you still using it regularly? Would you buy it again? Cheers!
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