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General Topics => Pizza Making Equipment => Prep Equipment => Topic started by: Jdevergie on April 11, 2021, 07:02:14 AM

Title: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Jdevergie on April 11, 2021, 07:02:14 AM
Has anybody got a mat to work their dough on, or are you better off with a board?
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: texmex on April 11, 2021, 08:44:40 AM
A board can be difficult, especially with sticky doughs, but I think a mat would be impossibly frustrating. 
I would go with smooth, well-oiled, heavy hardwood. 
I currently use this large heavy pizza peel, which is no good for use as a peel, but passes as a dough board.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Jdevergie on April 11, 2021, 10:15:21 AM
Thank you, I have a wooden peel I might be able to re-purpose 👍👍
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: 02ebz06 on April 11, 2021, 12:11:04 PM
I think a silicone mat would slide around too much.
I use one I made out of Corian years ago.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: stevenfstein on April 11, 2021, 12:48:20 PM
Been using a silicon mat for the past year, no slippage on the counter. Very easy cleanup - I just take outside and shake off the excess bench flour and a light wipe down. I use a 1/3 mix of flour, cornmeal and semolina per the late great Tom L.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ACUA8HC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: 02ebz06 on April 11, 2021, 12:53:44 PM
Been using a silicon mat for the past year, no slippage on the counter. Very easy cleanup - I just take outside and shake off the excess bench flour and a light wipe down. I use a 1/3 mix of flour, cornmeal and semolina per the late great Tom L.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ACUA8HC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: ARenko on April 11, 2021, 01:49:38 PM
I use a silicone mat - there's no sliding around at all.  It works just fine.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: ira on April 11, 2021, 01:56:02 PM
Same here, I use a large silicon mat. Doesn't slide on the counter and a bit of semolina and it's easy to work with and clean up after.


Ira
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: gdepozsgay on April 11, 2021, 02:00:19 PM
No stretch and fold on that puppy though. Or is there?
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Pizza_Not_War on April 11, 2021, 02:46:22 PM
Silicon mat works great, but I don't stretch dough on it. I use the hands in the air stretch with gravity. The mat is great for bread making, letting doughball rest on counter and many other uses. One of my favorite kitchen gadgets.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: TXCraig1 on April 11, 2021, 03:14:00 PM
Really, any smooth surface should work perfectly fine.

I really like making pizza on oak sanded down very fine. I lightly oiled it once when I made it years ago and have never needed to do anything to it since.

Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: texmex on April 11, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
Thanks for the info y'all.
I guess I do more stretch and folds in the bowl anyway.   Are the mats easy to roll pie crust on?  I have been wanting a larger surface for dough making, but the mats seemed unfeasible. 
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: ARenko on April 11, 2021, 06:49:13 PM
No stretch and fold on that puppy though. Or is there?
Why wouldn't there be?  It's not teflon.  It's actually a bit tacky.  I have no problem kneading dough or stretch and folding (not sure why S&F would have an issue with any surface).  Stretching a dough though it might require more bench flour than a granite, or similar, countertop.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: TXCraig1 on April 11, 2021, 06:55:19 PM
I may have misinterpreted the question. I read "stretching" to mean opening.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: gdepozsgay on April 11, 2021, 06:59:16 PM
I may have misinterpreted the question. I read "stretching" to mean opening.
Yep. I did not mean opening.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: ARenko on April 11, 2021, 09:52:41 PM
I may have misinterpreted the question. I read "stretching" to mean opening.
Opening I have found it more difficult than on granite (or similar, I have corian I think) because of the stickiness of the silicone.  I just use more semola and make sure to dust if off before moving to the peel.  But I'm knew to the silicone pad - could be I use it for kneadng, but skip it for opening in the future.
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Davydd on April 12, 2021, 09:50:39 AM
I just received this silicone mat yesterday from Amazon. It was only $10.99, one of the least expensive. It rolls out absolutely flat (no curling) and doesn't slip on the counter. It has a fine sandpapery surface. The border is a ruler measured out in both inches and centimeters. It's got a lot of measurement information in the empty spots. I doubt that will be helpful but it is there instead of a blank space. It is 26" x 16" so will fit on most counters. The diameter markings are up to 13" but it is gridded as well so you can easily judge up to 16" diameter. I haven't used it yet. It is suppose to be non-stick or assume you need less bench flour? I bought it because I can dump the excess flour into the waste basket easier.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Pastry-Baking-Mat-Measurements-Non/dp/B07VBQKVY7/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=silicone+pizza+mats&qid=1618234484&s=home-garden&sr=1-6
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Brent-r on April 14, 2021, 09:35:37 PM
having read way too many books on bread making I would take "stretching and folding" to mean a technique that substitutes for traditional kneading

Ken Forkish demonstrates the technique on his Youtube videos

https://youtu.be/CQHuWDEo3SA

he also has videos for pizza making dough

his book ... Flour Water Salt Yeast has recipes for straight yeast dough, hybrid dough,  and pure levain / sourdough and with
different grains..

note the beautiful WFO in the back of his shop
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: DannyG on April 15, 2021, 09:11:25 AM
I've been using a silicone mat for the last six months. I don't have granite/stone counter tops and I've never had good results with stretching dough on wood. I wipe the counter with a damp sponge before laying down the silicone mat and it won't budge. A light dusting with flour on top will prevent any sticking. I build the pizza on the mat and then slip the edge of my wood peel under the front edge of the mat and the pie slides right on.

This is the one I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YS8VZ38/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: texmex on April 15, 2021, 10:40:52 AM
I have been looking at the mats a bit more. Thanks for those who are describing their use. My dedicated space for dough prep has 1/4 brick countertop that is not all that smooth. 
Guess I will be buying a large board after all. 
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: stevenfstein on April 15, 2021, 02:10:16 PM
The other great advantage for me is during the summer I take the mat outside (have a Blackstone) and put it onto a Keter Unity XL Portable Outdoor Table and Storage Cabinet (but any table will work if it fits. Big enough for the mat, sauce, cheese and peel. Don't have to worry about dirt or "stuff" since I'm stretching on the mat and building on the peel. When done, I just shake off the excess over the side of the deck and I'm done. No cleaning up.

Best.. Steve
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: Brent-r on April 15, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
we have one of these boards from Breadtopia.

solid, well made, takes a fine finish
we use it for every bread bake and every pizza night

https://breadtopia.com/store/wood-bread-board/

the video shows the board used to make a pizza in a method I've never seen
thinking this may be something to try
Title: Re: Silicon mat for stretching dough
Post by: jsaras on April 15, 2021, 07:40:00 PM
I use an aluminum coupe tray to get the initial stretch started with some bench flour or semolina.  This keeps most of the mess nicely contained.  Even if the pan spins a bit, it doesn't matter.  https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/main/25294/311166/12-aluminum-coupe-pizza-tray.jpg