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First Field crushed tomatoes?
« on: December 04, 2021, 08:06:38 PM »
I’ve never seen these mentioned on the forum- but please correct me if I’m wrong. They were recommended on a YouTube pizza segment and the Jersey sourcing caught my eye. Ordered them on line through Walmart. I like them- maybe not quite as concentrated as Sclafani, a little closer to Pastene, both of which I like a lot.

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2021, 08:29:19 PM »
They are cooked. If it matters to anyone.

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2021, 08:52:14 PM »
They are cooked. If it matters to anyone.
Aren’t all canned crushed tomatoes cooked?

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2021, 08:56:07 PM »
Aren’t all canned crushed tomatoes cooked?
Can't speak to that. I like Bianco organic and they are steam peeled but not cooked afaik.

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2021, 10:52:23 PM »
I dont ever remember seeing a label that says "cooked" like this one does. Interesting. It looked and tasted similar to the other crushed tomato you mentioned?
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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2021, 07:29:28 AM »
I dont ever remember seeing a label that says "cooked" like this one does. Interesting. It looked and tasted similar to the other crushed tomato you mentioned?
Yes, similar to others I have tried. I also have never seen “cooked” on a label.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2021, 07:52:03 AM »
Canned tomatoes are steam peeled, canned then heated to a high temperature (cooked) to sterilize.
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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2021, 08:11:43 AM »
So maybe these aren't treated differently than other crushed tomatoes. That's my guess...and the mention of "kettle cooked" and "cooked in small batches" is part of the marketing. The screenshot below has 2 different labels. I'd guess that "made from" was replaced with "kettle cooked" as "made from" can sound like there's lots of processing and stuff added.

In any event, nice find. Looks like Whole Foods near me carries this brand. And that the ketchup may be popular.

Edit: any chance you remember what YouTube video this was mentioned in? I could never watch too many pizza videos!


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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2021, 11:58:44 AM »
Canned tomatoes are steam peeled, canned then heated to a high temperature (cooked) to sterilize.
A point too often ignored here. Find me a can that says “uncooked.”  ;D
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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2021, 12:14:48 PM »
Way back in 2004, Steve (the owner of the forum) quoted a PMQ post on how the California fresh pack tomatoes are processed, at:

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=605.msg5593;topicseen#msg5593

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2021, 04:27:07 PM »
https://bionaturae.jovialfoods.com/faq/

Are your tomatoes cooked?
Our canned and strained tomatoes are not cooked – they are steamed to remove skins and then pasteurized to seal but they are not cooked. Our tomato paste is cooked down to remove water content and concentrate the flavor.

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2021, 05:24:36 PM »
For what is its worth, I found this description of how canning of tomatoes is achieved:

How canning works:

The tomatoes are picked at their ripest and processed immediately; most canning facilities are located near farms.

First, the skins are removed, either by steaming or a hot bath.

Next, the tomatoes go into cans along with salt and a filler, either tomato juice or puree. (Be aware added salt can bring up the sodium count in your recipe.)

Finally, the can is sealed, heated and held at temperature until the contents are sterile.

The sterilization process actually cooks the tomatoes right in the can.


Source: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/canned-tomato-guide

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2021, 05:44:33 PM »
For what is its worth, I found this description of how canning of tomatoes is achieved:

How canning works:

The tomatoes are picked at their ripest and processed immediately; most canning facilities are located near farms.

First, the skins are removed, either by steaming or a hot bath.

Next, the tomatoes go into cans along with salt and a filler, either tomato juice or puree. (Be aware added salt can bring up the sodium count in your recipe.)

Finally, the can is sealed, heated and held at temperature until the contents are sterile.

The sterilization process actually cooks the tomatoes right in the can.


Source: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/canned-tomato-guide

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Thank you Peter for filling in the gaps. At any rate, these tomatoes are worth a comparison to pastene, scalfani, et al… As I work through a case (free delivery!) one test will be using them to make Marcella Hazan sauce- onion + butter + tomato version. The original recipe calls for whole peeled tomatoes if I recall- but crushed will certainly do.
First field tomatoes featured in a post thanksgiving Sicilian:
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2021, 06:24:39 PM »
FWIW, I read recently that crushed tomatoes are more flavorful as they are picked at the peak of ripeness where whole tomatoes are picked underripe so that they will hold their shape in the can.
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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2021, 06:47:49 PM »
FWIW, I read recently that crushed tomatoes are more flavorful as they are picked at the peak of ripeness where whole tomatoes are picked underripe so that they will hold their shape in the can.
That confirms my preference for crushed in almost all applications. Thank you for pointing that out.

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Re: First Field crushed tomatoes?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2021, 06:48:54 PM »
FWIW, I read recently that crushed tomatoes are more flavorful as they are picked at the peak of ripeness where whole tomatoes are picked underripe so that they will hold their shape in the can.
Hans,

Sometimes, calcium chloride is added to whole canned tomatoes to help the tomatoes keep their shape. I saw this today at the Food Network website:

Calcium chloride is often added as a firming agent, which limits the tomatoes' ability to break down during cooking.

Packers generally save their ripest, most attractively-colored specimens for use as whole, crushed and diced tomatoes. Lesser tomatoes are reserved for use in paste, puree or sauce.

Source: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/canned-tomato-guide

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