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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3300 on: January 07, 2018, 09:58:26 PM »
Im not a fan of propane because what you described  always seems to happen. NG, kerosene, heating oil, wood or coal.

Dangerous Salumi,

Would have thought that the propane company would have known market would be using more propane since the weather has been so cold in our area.  I can't even imagine how much propane all of the ceiling propane heaters use just in the one day a week the market is open.  With all of the entry doors being opened and shut so much can imagine those propane heaters use a lot. 

When I shut the door beside my stand today I heard a hollow noise in my propane tank outside.  I am not sure if that noise was from the cold weather or if it is getting empty.  Tapped the big propane tank and it sounded tinny.  Wasn't even going to try to call the propane company today.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3301 on: January 07, 2018, 10:25:32 PM »
Hopefully when you do, they will have some of their own expertise/experience and be able to think for themselves with some short time with you showing them your workflow!!
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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3302 on: January 07, 2018, 11:14:13 PM »
In New York there was a problem with propane deliveries. Not sure if the companies excuse was true, but they said the problem was customers without auto top off contracts were going through propane faster than usual and there was too much demand for deliveries. Hopefully I said that right.

http://www.timesunion.com/business/article/Propane-supplies-strong-despite-some-delivery-12476720.php

We might get some messy weather here tomorrow too, but it is supposed to be in the high 20s which I hope feels like a heat wave.


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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3303 on: January 08, 2018, 07:27:34 AM »
Hopefully when you do, they will have some of their own expertise/experience and be able to think for themselves with some short time with you showing them your workflow!!

Jon,

With the ever changing variables at market someone would need a lot of expertise/experience to know what to change for market.  I sure don't know what to do sometimes, but then I am not a man with a lot of skills some of them have.  Hopefully that transition would go quickly.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3304 on: January 08, 2018, 07:40:15 AM »
In New York there was a problem with propane deliveries. Not sure if the companies excuse was true, but they said the problem was customers without auto top off contracts were going through propane faster than usual and there was too much demand for deliveries. Hopefully I said that right.

http://www.timesunion.com/business/article/Propane-supplies-strong-despite-some-delivery-12476720.php

We might get some messy weather here tomorrow too, but it is supposed to be in the high 20s which I hope feels like a heat wave.

Jon in Albany,

Thanks for telling me there was a problems with propane deliveries in New York and what the company gave as an excuse and the link.  Maybe what that propane company said is true.  I sure don't what happened with the propane company that delivers all of the propane for market.  All I know is that the one maintenance man said he was on trying to contact them for 3 hours yesterday.  You would think they would have someone answer if it even was on a Sunday.  My father used to be a mechanic.  Remember when he was called out in the middle of the night many times when it was freezing cold to go and fix engines on tractor trailers.  Even back all of those years ago I thought how could he stand that. 

Had frozen hot water pipes in my bathroom Saturday.  I went out and purchased a smaller electric heater and cleaned out everything under the vanity.  At least until Sunday the pipes unfroze.

Stay safe tomorrow if you get messy weather! :)

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3305 on: January 08, 2018, 12:19:01 PM »
Jon,

With the ever changing variables at market someone would need a lot of expertise/experience to know what to change for market.  I sure don't know what to do sometimes, but then I am not a man with a lot of skills some of them have.  Hopefully that transition would go quickly.

Norma

Nope, you're a woman with a LOT more skills and ambition than most men I know OR women!!!! You take it easy on yourself!
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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3306 on: January 08, 2018, 07:01:23 PM »
Nope, you're a woman with a LOT more skills and ambition than most men I know OR women!!!! You take it easy on yourself!

Jon,

Thanks so much!  Now if the body only holds out.  :-D Had problems today and although didn't go to the surgeon did talk with his nurses.  Am supposed to have an appointment tomorrow morning.  The nurses think I had a strangulated hernia today.  Had pain since this morning but went to market anyway.  Left early because of the ice.  When I got home had more pain and went to bed.  Got up and it got worse and thought I was going to faint from the pain. Nurse told me to put the binder back on if the stomach was soft while lying down.  Feels okay now.  If it feels okay till tomorrow am going to market.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3307 on: January 08, 2018, 10:05:10 PM »
Dammit anyway!!! If you get anymore pain, ANY PAIN.....GO TO THE E.R.!!!!!! Sometimes they can be manually/externally manipulated back into place. Left toooo long, pain may dissipate but problems get worse if strangulated portion goes without circulation and a piece of your gut dies requiring a more involved surgery. Not trying to be an alarmist but get in and have it checked! I've seen this %$# 100s of times on the job. PM me how things go Norma, extra prayers tonite coming at you, go easy............
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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3308 on: January 09, 2018, 06:11:35 AM »
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You are a great friend...thank you!


Norma, please take good care and be caredul.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3309 on: January 09, 2018, 06:49:29 AM »
Dammit anyway!!! If you get anymore pain, ANY PAIN.....GO TO THE E.R.!!!!!! Sometimes they can be manually/externally manipulated back into place. Left toooo long, pain may dissipate but problems get worse if strangulated portion goes without circulation and a piece of your gut dies requiring a more involved surgery. Not trying to be an alarmist but get in and have it checked! I've seen this %$# 100s of times on the job. PM me how things go Norma, extra prayers tonite coming at you, go easy............

Jon,

Thanks for your expert medical advice about what can happen and the extra prayers.  Feel okay this morning except for being tired.  Don't know if the Metamucil I took yesterday after market straightened things out or not, or if putting the binder back on after the nurses advice to do it while lying down. 

At least there was heat at market yesterday.  The maintenance man said the propane company didn't answer till 2:00 am in the morning.  Said they were swamped with calls.  Heat was back on around 3 am yesterday.  The maintenance man said he had to go around and light all of the heaters that needed that.  Some are electric start and some require getting up on a ladder to light them.  He also checked my propane tank and it was a little over half way full.  Glad I have maintenance men around that help when needed.

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You are a great friend...thank you!


Norma, please take good care and be caredul.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3310 on: January 15, 2018, 11:03:01 PM »
Yep that is what you have to do.  Freeze lots of dough balls.  Almost a freezer full. 

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3311 on: January 21, 2018, 08:26:01 AM »
Yep that is what you have to do.  Freeze lots of dough balls.  Almost a freezer full. 

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was the market closed?

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3312 on: January 21, 2018, 01:00:36 PM »
Norma,

This is a fantastic thread! I love reading all these posts, looking at the pictures and making me drool. A lot of knowledge and great information in here, I will definitely pick up a few things. At 166 pages long, I could spend a while reading.

I'll definitely try some of your recipes too.

A quick question since you posted those pictures of the frozen dough balls. Do you find that freezing balls works fine? How do you treat them compared to a normal dough that spends a couple days in the fridge and then is warmed up before baking? I usually make two balls at the time since that's me and my girlfriend eat, but my mixer is a bit large for the task, so the doughs don't get as good of a kneading. I was thinking about doubling the recipe to get better kneading and freeze two of the balls for use a week or two later.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3313 on: January 21, 2018, 08:08:37 PM »
was the market closed?

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No, market was not closed.  My Mom had two visits to the emergency room.  The second one this past Monday was serious.  That is why all of the dough balls were frozen.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3314 on: January 21, 2018, 08:20:16 PM »
Norma,

This is a fantastic thread! I love reading all these posts, looking at the pictures and making me drool. A lot of knowledge and great information in here, I will definitely pick up a few things. At 166 pages long, I could spend a while reading.

I'll definitely try some of your recipes too.

A quick question since you posted those pictures of the frozen dough balls. Do you find that freezing balls works fine? How do you treat them compared to a normal dough that spends a couple days in the fridge and then is warmed up before baking? I usually make two balls at the time since that's me and my girlfriend eat, but my mixer is a bit large for the task, so the doughs don't get as good of a kneading. I was thinking about doubling the recipe to get better kneading and freeze two of the balls for use a week or two later.

Heikjo,

Glad you like this thread. 

Yes, usually works well when freezing dough balls.  The frozen dough balls in the basket are for customers to take home and make pizzas or whatever else they want to make out of pizza dough balls.  The take home frozen dough balls have more yeast than what is normally used for market doughs. 

Some of the dough balls that was frozen last week from market doughs are frozen twice now.  Will see what happens to them.  Usually dough balls (that are leftover from a Tuesday) are frozen at the end of the day.  They then are then taken out of the freezer on a Monday to use the next Tuesday.  Some of the market dough balls that were frozen last week only had one day of fermentation and then were frozen.  Took them out of the freezer today and will also see what happens to them.

Just try to freeze one of your dough balls to see what happens.  If you have a freezer that has the defrost cycle am not sure what will happen.  If you look what Tom Lehmann says about freezing dough balls in a freezer that defrosts, he says they don't last that long before they have to be used.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3315 on: January 22, 2018, 01:27:14 PM »
Made your dough again. Remembered pictures of the bottom this time.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3316 on: January 22, 2018, 02:22:54 PM »
 :drool: yummy!

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3317 on: January 22, 2018, 02:34:12 PM »
Norma, how is your mother doing?  I hope all is well.

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Re: More flavour in dough
« Reply #3318 on: January 22, 2018, 09:44:35 PM »
Made your dough again. Remembered pictures of the bottom this time.

Targus8D,

Thanks for posting the photos!  Looks super yummy!  Did you like the dough?

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« Reply #3319 on: January 22, 2018, 09:59:19 PM »
Norma, how is your mother doing?  I hope all is well.

yarbrough462,

Thanks for asking about Mom.  She is in rehab now but has a way to go to get back to her normal self.  She has 5 broken ribs (5-9 and the 8th and 9th are broken in two places.  Has two types of influenza and viral pneumonia.  Did have a partial pneumothorax but the last x-ray the hospital did they said it must have gotten smaller because they couldn't see it anymore.   Also coughed while taking pills at the hospital  after being in IICU for 4 days and then had to see the speech therapist.  She now has to eat all pureed foods and they add stuff to her water and juices to make them thicker.  Probably tomorrow she will see a speech therapist again to have some more tests.  Mom said today she would do about anything to get a good glass of cold regular water.  She had physical therapy today and it was the first day they dressed her in regular clothes.  Her spirits are getting better.  Just hope the body heals.  She was having problems with her blood pressure dropping and fell.  The Geriatric Specialist said since Mom's Parkinson is getting worse and that can cause her blood pressure to drop when going from a sitting position to a standing position.  Mom also had Trauma doctors in the hospital.

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