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Offline cwood

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Realized only after 2 days in the fridge that I forgot the salt.  Figured I would see what happens.
I figured the rise would be out of control by comparison but it was not much different than with salt.....even seemed less?
Handled and stretched ok, maybe a bit too easily.
Launched ok but absolutely flee apart with the turning peel!!  Just had zero integrity on the bottom.  So strange. (Karu 16 @850)
Tested for taste after getting some out of the oven.   Tasted very bland as expected.
Was really surprised at how it didn't over proof and somehow was structurally so bad.

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Realized only after 2 days in the fridge that I forgot the salt.  Figured I would see what happens.
I figured the rise would be out of control by comparison but it was not much different than with salt.....even seemed less?
Handled and stretched ok, maybe a bit too easily.
Launched ok but absolutely flee apart with the turning peel!!  Just had zero integrity on the bottom.  So strange. (Karu 16 @850)
Tested for taste after getting some out of the oven.   Tasted very bland as expected.
Was really surprised at how it didn't over proof and somehow was structurally so bad.

I mean, it doesn't surprise me at all that it was structurally bad. Not in the least. :D

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But why? due to over proofing?  It certainly didn't over grow.

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Salt stengthens gluten. Ever see those guys that do the competitive pizza tossing? Their dough is super high in salt. Makes the dough super strong.

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I forgot the salt recently in a batch, remembered the next day and added the salt and kneaded the dough for a few minutes. Wasn't my best but still worked out ok.

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I've forgotten the salt or yeast a few times, this works great! Cut/tear the dough into golf ballish pieces, dissolve forgotten ingredient into a couple teaspoons of water, add to dough pieces and remix. Works awesomely!!!
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I've forgotten the salt or yeast a few times, this works great! Cut/tear the dough into golf ballish pieces, dissolve forgotten ingredient into a couple teaspoons of water, add to dough pieces and remix. Works awesomely!!!
Well thats amazing!  Will give that a try next time....if there is one.

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How much does the type of salt influence the texture? Would you get wildly different results using some coarse Mediterranean sea salt versus say, the pink Himalayan stuff, due to chemical differences?

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How much does the type of salt influence the texture? Would you get wildly different results using some coarse Mediterranean sea salt versus say, the pink Himalayan stuff, due to chemical differences?

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How much does the type of salt influence the texture? Would you get wildly different results using some coarse Mediterranean sea salt versus say, the pink Himalayan stuff, due to chemical differences?
daveinhampton,

I agree with Hans. I perhaps should add that when we created the dough calculating tools years ago, we allowed users to specify the brand of coarse salts (e.g., the Morton's and Diamond Crystal brands of Kosher salt), as well as regular/fine sea salt. When the tools were recreated after Flash was no longer being supported, those choices remained the same, as can be seen in the replacement calculator at:

https://pizza-dough-calculator.herokuapp.com/calculator

The above said, when using a coarse salt, it is usually a good idea to dissolve the salt in the water if the dough is to be mixed by hand. Otherwise, the salt can simply be added to the water used in a dough recipe. The late Tom Lehmann opined on this matter in his post at Reply 1 at:

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=64724.msg635318;topicseen#msg635318

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I use a fairly coarse salt here at work. Cheapest salt I can get from my supplier. It's labeled like bakers salt or something like that. Definitely not table salt. I just add it to my water like Tom always recommended. Zero problems.

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Peter can correct me if I am wrong here, but by weight, salt is salt with minimal variation amongst types and coarseness. But by volume is the bigger variable due to size of granules. Weight is ALWAYS the best option, and it goes without saying, steer away from anything iodized or anticaking fillers that can affect taste and texture......my 2c.
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Peter can correct me if I am wrong here, but by weight, salt is salt with minimal variation amongst types and coarseness. But by volume is the bigger variable due to size of granules. Weight is ALWAYS the best option, and it goes without saying, steer away from anything iodized or anticaking fillers that can affect taste and texture......my 2c.
Jon,

When we created the dough calculating tools, we wanted to allow members to be able to use the salts that they might have had on hand. Also, sometimes recipes they wanted to try called for specific salts. I don't recall exactly how we converted teaspoons of the various salts to grams, but a teaspoon of the Diamond Crystal Kosher salt weighed less than a teaspoon of the Morton's Kosher salt, and both weighed less than a teaspoon of table or sea salt. Because of the variations, members would have to test different amounts of the salts they had on hand to get the best results.

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Always weigh it.  :chef:

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