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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2020, 03:28:50 PM »
You can get Organic 00 from Central Milling for less money.

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2020, 10:19:18 PM »
You can get Organic 00 from Central Milling for less money.

Yes. I called KA this afternoon. The young man I spoke with confirmed that it was not malted. When I asked about the % protein, he was VERY embarrassed to say it was "proprietary" information, unlike all their other flours! He did not understand this and thought it was very silly. He claimed he and others had asked why they couldn't pass on the info. He was aware of GM and Bay City Milling's domestic 00 flours. At any rate he said "rumor" had it was about 11.7%. That sounds great and I be happy to try it is it wasn't so pricey when shipping is included. 

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2020, 10:41:46 AM »
$3/lb for flour.  :-D

Did you look at the pictures? Maybe the good folks at KA should spend more time working on their pizza skills and less time stroking each other about how much they should try to gouge their customers.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2021, 12:34:14 AM »
$3/lb for flour.  :-D

Did you look at the pictures? Maybe the good folks at KA should spend more time working on their pizza skills and less time stroking each other about how much they should try to gouge their customers.

To bump an old thread, laugh if you want but some of us don't have access to 00 flour for cheaper.  My options are Amazon, which I think is $80 for a 50lb bag right now, while a lot cheaper than this, not all of us want or need 55lbs.  The other place around me has 2.2lb bags of Anna something or other and it's $6, so not much cheaper.  I wish this flour was cheaper, but it's the only thing I can get locally. Tonight I bought a bag, it was on "sale" for $7.49 (laugh laugh) for a 3lb bag. Best I'm gonna do by far without driving half way across the state or ordering some ginormous bag online.

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2021, 07:33:53 AM »
You really don't need '00' flour. I bet it's been close to 10 years since I bought any.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2021, 11:12:30 AM »
Agree 00 is overrated. Also for the Italian stuff wheat and flour is been shipped back and forth to the US so not great for our environment. If you can get some local reasonably priced 00 itís nice to play around with it though. Btw it makes really nice Ąplaydoughď  for the kids, very smooth.

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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2021, 02:38:38 PM »
You really don't need '00' flour. I bet it's been close to 10 years since I bought any.

What could I buy at a regular store that would cook at 900f without burning to a crisp?  I get other flours could be substituted, but are the ones you can find easily? I know the high gluten I have's a no go for a high temp bake, as are the other few flours I have.  Come to think of it, when I got home and started making my dough last night, I noticed the bag says "Neopolitan style" on it, so this might not even be 00 flour lol. Maybe I should go Google this, as I was under the impression that for 900f bakes you should be using 00.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2021, 02:53:12 PM »
I remember Chau has used malted KAAP in his oven at 900f and said itís fine up to 900. Once I open a new malted bag again Iíll try it out at 800-900f and see for myself.
Best/closest alternative to 00 is unmalted AP or BF IMO

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2021, 03:03:41 PM »
I remember Chau has used malted KAAP in his oven at 900f and said itís fine up to 900. Once I open a new malted bag again Iíll try it out at 800-900f and see for myself.
Best/closest alternative to 00 is unmalted AP or BF IMO

BF works? I either need to try again or get a different brand.  I have First Street and the few times I tried it for full temp bakes in my Koda it was a disaster.

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2021, 03:23:41 PM »
I generally use unmalted AP.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2021, 03:40:14 PM »
Iíve been using a unmalted BF from Baystate milling Boulder organic with 13.2% protein, works great at 800-950f.
Whatís the problem with BF in your Ooni?

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2021, 08:13:35 PM »
Iíve been using a unmalted BF from Baystate milling Boulder organic with 13.2% protein, works great at 800-950f.
Whatís the problem with BF in your Ooni?

I take back what I said, it wasn't BF it was high gluten. I don't know the difference aside from HG has more protein, but whatever it was the pizzas would scorch before they would be fully cooked. This was a good while ago and I was pretty new to pizza making. So it's possible it was just my inexperience. Or whatever dough formula I was using back then was wrong. I'm out of flour so I'll go pick up a bag of First Street BF and see how it goes. I just looked it up, 3 25lg bags are $24 right now that would be awesome. I paid that for a 10lb bag of 00 shipped off Amazon lol

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2021, 09:05:47 AM »
I take back what I said, it wasn't BF it was high gluten. I don't know the difference aside from HG has more protein, but whatever it was the pizzas would scorch before they would be fully cooked. This was a good while ago and I was pretty new to pizza making. So it's possible it was just my inexperience. Or whatever dough formula I was using back then was wrong. I'm out of flour so I'll go pick up a bag of First Street BF and see how it goes. I just looked it up, 3 25lg bags are $24 right now that would be awesome. I paid that for a 10lb bag of 00 shipped off Amazon lol

It was almost certainly a malted flour. Look for an AP or BF that isn't malted (no malted barley flour or enzymes listed in the ingredients).
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2021, 02:44:27 AM »
It was almost certainly a malted flour. Look for an AP or BF that isn't malted (no malted barley flour or enzymes listed in the ingredients).

Thank you for mentioning this, unfortunately Smart & Final's BF, High Gluten & AP are all malted. There goes me getting a 25/50lb bag locally for a good price. And I checked 3 grocery stores, everything BF/AP was either malted or has enzymes.  Looks like I'm really going to have to dig deep to find a local source for sutiable Neo flour that's not $8 for a 3lb bag, doh lol.


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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2021, 11:11:12 AM »
Arrowhead Mills Organic All Purpose Unbleached.  $5 lb at Walmart.  $7 lb at Whole Foods.

Edit - $5 for 5 lb bag or $7 for 5 lb bag.

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2021, 11:27:10 AM »
That's what in thinking ..organic AP winds up costing more than many 00 flours...


Edit...ah okay, that makes a difference
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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2021, 12:35:15 PM »
It was posted previously that Whole Foods bulk AP flour is not malted.
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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2021, 04:30:12 PM »
I still forget sometimes that Target has groceries, I saw Good & Gathering Organic AP in a 5lb bag for $4.29.  The only ingredient on the label's Organic Wheat Flour. 

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Re: King Arthur "00" flour
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2021, 07:27:38 PM »
Yeah, I think most of the organic flour is unmalted

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