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Offline 9slicePie

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Jeweler’s scale
« on: July 14, 2021, 04:23:43 PM »
Any good, reliable, yet reasonably-priced jeweler’s scale that any of you guys can recommend?

I saw this one on amazon (what do you think?):  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y61YW7S/?tag=pmak-20


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Read the portion that I put a red square around.  “….the required calibration weight….”


Now after a cursory glance at that page, I didn’t see any indication that this calibration weight was included.  I would need to buy a separate item (the calibration weight) to be able to properly use the scale???   Are you kidding me?   These pizza-making accessories expenses just keep coming!  Why couldn’t they just include that tiny little weight WITH the scale?!   >:(
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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2021, 04:49:21 PM »
I got this one from a friend who reloads when he upgraded. Costs a bit more than the one you link to but it did come with a weight. I only had to calibrate it once and it's been very consistent since.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z8FY7QC/?tag=pmak-20

I've used a MyWeigh KD-7000 for my dough making for the last 20 years, and I rarely use the small scale. Kind of interesting when I first got it to check yeast but a good small measuring spoon works fine for me. The most important thing is to be consistent. Let experience show you what works and stick with it.

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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2021, 04:55:50 PM »
Thanks


The thing is, for NP pizzas, the recipe usually calls for a miniscule amount of yeast.  I have meausring spoons, the smallest of which is 1/8 teaspoon.  I dont know how much that is in grams, and even if I did know, how would I measure smaller amounts?

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2021, 04:56:04 PM »
All the low price scales seem similar. My current one is 5years old, cost $10. No longer available however. The one you picked looks good. I never calibrated any of these scales. I just use newly circulated coins to check and see how close the scale reads. You can easily find the gram weight of a quarter online.

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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2021, 05:14:57 PM »
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The thing is, for NP pizzas, the recipe usually calls for a miniscule amount of yeast.  I have measuring spoons, the smallest of which is 1/8 teaspoon.  I dont know how much that is in grams, and even if I did know, how would I measure smaller amounts?

The 1/8 t of yeast I weighed on that small scale would be 0.36855 g. I remember reading in Maggie Glezer's "Artisan Baking" that to get small amounts of yeast she would dissolve 1/8 t IDY in 8 oz of water, and then, for example, take 1/4 of the yeast water to give her 1/32 t. I've never used that method but if you do, consistency again is the key. Same cup, same spoon etc.

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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2021, 05:21:57 PM »
Mine is more money. Have had it about 10 years with no problems though.

This link is to a newer version 100g capacity (mine is 50g).
Doesn't come with a calibration weight, but they sell a 100g weight for $5.00.

https://www.thenextlevels.ca/jennings-jsr-100-scale-100g-x-0-01/
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2021, 05:56:30 PM »
For a small batch, this is my go to in a pinch. More dough? Do it again.
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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2021, 08:28:06 PM »
Another option is to use measuring spoons, this goes as low as 1/64th.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P25YCXX/?tag=pmak-20   
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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2021, 12:58:23 AM »
For amounts of 0.1g and less, these cheap 0.01g scales can have too big variation to give predictable and repetitive results. I agree that you may be better off buying some small measuring spoons. A spoon will always have the same volume.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2021, 08:00:37 AM »
A spoon will always have the same volume.

But it's not always the same. Weighing ingredients is the only way that is consistent and accurate.

https://blog.thermoworks.com/thermometer/weight-volume-measurements/
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2021, 09:28:58 AM »
But it's not always the same. Weighing ingredients is the only way that is consistent and accurate.

https://blog.thermoworks.com/thermometer/weight-volume-measurements/
I know, but a small spoon may be more reliable than a 0.01g scale that can't accurately measure 0.05g or even 0.1g. How much difference is the same volume of IDY or ADY from pack to pack?
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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2021, 09:50:01 AM »
I know, but a small spoon may be more reliable than a 0.01g scale that can't accurately measure 0.05g or even 0.1g. How much difference is the same volume of IDY or ADY from pack to pack?

I agree with you, especially if you use that same small spoon for one thing, like IDY. Much the same as texmex's "pinch".

You won't find a guy more adamant about using a scale for baking as I am. But, as far as the small digital scales go, they can vary greatly. The real problem is that they can vary every time on the same scale. I'm probably the only guy in Colorado that doesn't hunt and reload, but the guys I know that do are constantly looking for the best scale for small weights. Judging by the number of scales they have it's not easy to find a reliable one, even within the same brand. If you have one, stick with it.

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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2021, 10:41:56 AM »
I agree with you, especially if you use that same small spoon for one thing, like IDY. Much the same as texmex's "pinch".

You won't find a guy more adamant about using a scale for baking as I am. But, as far as the small digital scales go, they can vary greatly. The real problem is that they can vary every time on the same scale. I'm probably the only guy in Colorado that doesn't hunt and reload, but the guys I know that do are constantly looking for the best scale for small weights. Judging by the number of scales they have it's not easy to find a reliable one, even within the same brand. If you have one, stick with it.
What is "hunt and reload"?

If I wanted to accurately measure something in the range of 0.01-0.10 I'd buy a good 0.001 scale, but those can quickly cost $50+. I got three scales I use regularly and measure nearly everything by mass, but when I need 0.5g of IDY, I prefer a spoon.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2021, 10:48:46 AM »
What is "hunt and reload"?

Sorry I didn't explain. Shooting animals and making your own ammunition. Very popular here.

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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2021, 11:44:47 AM »
Thanks


The thing is, for NP pizzas, the recipe usually calls for a miniscule amount of yeast.  I have meausring spoons, the smallest of which is 1/8 teaspoon.  I dont know how much that is in grams, and even if I did know, how would I measure smaller amounts?

Mix 7g package of instant yeast with 1 kg of your main flour.

In every 10g of the mix you will have 0.07g of yeast. If you keep the mix well sealed away from moisture and at room temp it could keep at least couple of weeks (my hunch is until hell freezes over and then some)

So you see in how many grams of flour give you required yeast and you just replace it in your formula.

Btw volumetric measurements for yeast should be ok. Since granules are of uniform size and not compressible.

And of course if push comes to shove - one can just take a credit card and return to his bad years when he knew by instinct how to split a pile of something in any number of parts.
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Re: Jeweler’s scale
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2021, 11:52:14 AM »
If you mix 10g of IDY or ADY in some amount of water and use a part of it, is the rest wasted or can you store it in the fridge like an opened pack of IDY or ADY?
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2021, 12:04:08 PM »
If you mix 10g of IDY or ADY in some amount of water and use a part of it, is the rest wasted or can you store it in the fridge like an opened pack of IDY or ADY?

Just use fresh yeast in that case. Where I live it comes in 50g cubes and if your fridge is at 4 or 3C it will hold for quite a while. And throwing away 10 euro cents of yeast if you only use half of it is hardly a bank breaking problem.

In theory dissolving yeast and throwing a pinch of sugar inside it should keep at least some time, but (not a specialist in yeast) while killing yeast is hard, rendering it unpredictable is easier. So you just wouldn't know how it will behave.

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2021, 12:13:58 PM »
Just use fresh yeast in that case. Where I live it comes in 50g cubes and if your fridge is at 4 or 3C it will hold for quite a while. And throwing away 10 euro cents of yeast if you only use half of it is hardly a bank breaking problem.

In theory dissolving yeast and throwing a pinch of sugar inside it should keep at least some time, but (not a specialist in yeast) while killing yeast is hard, rendering it unpredictable is easier. So you just wouldn't know how it will behave.
I don't use commercial yeast much, so fresh yeast becomes even more waste since it doesn't last that long compared to IDY. It also loses power over time, so you have to compensate if it's used over a longer period of time.

I use a volumetric measurement for IDY so I don't use the water trick, but I was curious and sometimes see the tip in here.
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