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Title: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 15, 2021, 09:21:32 PM
Hey everyone, wanted to give everyone on here the good news. After giving it a hard and long thought for 4 weeks lol, I've decided to open up my own pizza trailer. I've truly thought about opening my own place for years and years, but it never really hit me until recently to say let's do a food truck.

 I've been a board member for maybe 2-3 years, have gained lots of great knowledge from many on here.  Pizza has been a passion of mine for nearly 10 years. I've always wanted to open a restaurant, but being as I have many close friends in this business, I know how taxing, tiring it can be, and I do not want to be tied to it like I know how it requires. I have one wife, its questionable how much I like her at times lol, so I don't really feel like having another.

  I'm Lucky enough to have a started a successful company when I was 25, that I've given years off of my life to, to be in a position to be able to do this. This pizza trailer is not for money, it's done for passion of pizza. Luckily I'm in a position where I can open up the trailer, and not truly need to make any money, although it won't hurt to turn a small profit.

I live in a fairly small town 13,500 in the city and about 40,000 in the county. I know a lot of people, and these people know of my pizza passion. I plan to open only once a week, 25 dough balls, and once I'm out, I'm out. I have many contacts outside of my hometown as well, that own multiple types of businesses, hotels, wineries etc. I plan to utilize this too.  Probably going to do this on Friday nights from 4-8, and if all goes well possibly Saturdays. I own an insurance company, so that requires most of my time, thus I don't plan to do this for work, but more of a hobby/passion.

I've already purchased my Dough Mixer (10-S Famag) it's on its way, found a used trailer 20x8.5x7ft that I bought yesterday, and got a great deal on a used TRUE 6x3.5 pizza prep fridge/ on FB market place. I already cook with a cupponne tiziano, but plan to buy another.

Worst case scenario, if I get tired of this or it fails lol, well maybe one of you all will buy this wonderful pizza trailer I'm about to have.

With that said, please give any insights, thoughts or suggestions on what I should or shouldn't do. I'm not building out the trailer. I have two guys who do this.  Really they are just installing the equipment, doing plumbing and electric, and cutting a out a window. Not a lot for them to do.

Attached are a few pics of what I have going so far. Please provide criticism, insight, tell me I'm dumb and crazy. But you know what, I'm 36, you only live once, and I've learned to do what makes you happy, take a chance, just keeping moving forward.  I said F it, let's do this!

Sorry for the rambling, I just had to run this past people, who I don't know at all, on the internet, (lol) but that I knew all of you all would understand.  Once it's up and running, please if you ever have a chance come and check it out. I'll give more details as we go.

Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 15, 2021, 09:42:11 PM
Excuse the bad photos. Trying to get these from my phone to here, nothing great but you get the idea.

Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 15, 2021, 09:45:35 PM
Here are a few other items including the logo I designed, as well as one my youngest son designed a while back. He calls him Pizza man. this was way before I ever decided to do this so I plan to incorporate him.

Little history on the logo/name:  I love dogs, have had many, I had a huge 165Lb Great Dane named Leroy. He was big and beautiful and full of love, he died last year, after only 5 1/2 years. that name kept sticking out to me. There are probably a ton better names, but this one works for me.

Also pictured, the mixer I bought and my True refrigerator.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Numerator on July 15, 2021, 10:29:55 PM
This sounds great! I have a fantasy about doing something like this, so I can live vicariously through your experiences.

Do you know what your power requirements are going to be?  Are you going to use a generator for power?  Why not buy a used kitchen trailer and start with that?

Good luck!
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Pizza_Not_War on July 16, 2021, 12:00:57 AM
I did something similar in a non pizza food business. After a few months it became a chore rather than being fun. It was barely break even and after a year I unloaded it and moved on to better things.

Good luck, hopefully you will have a better time than I did.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Jon in Albany on July 16, 2021, 08:42:46 AM
One thing I'll mention that I have read about being an issue is the access to a commercial kitchen. Laws/codes vary by state. Ive seen some food trucks be their own commercial kitchen. And I've seen others use a friend's restaurant after hours for prep.

Just something to be aware of...

Good luck. You're doing something many of us have thought about doing.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Yeasty Boy on July 16, 2021, 03:07:14 PM
Pizza Man looks like he skips leg day.  :-D

Cool stuff. I wish you the best!
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 16, 2021, 08:28:52 PM
Pizza Man looks like he skips leg day.  :-D

Cool stuff. I wish you the best!

Lol! No doubt. I told my son that we need to get him doing something squats
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 16, 2021, 08:54:03 PM
This sounds great! I have a fantasy about doing something like this, so I can live vicariously through your experiences.

Do you know what your power requirements are going to be?  Are you going to use a generator for power?  Why not buy a used kitchen trailer and start with that?

Good luck!

Not a lot of used ones around here and honestly I think itís better to start from scratch. I feel I can get it done the way I want it for cheaper. I already have a lot of the equipment. I do not plan to do any cooking and most of the ones I saw had a ton of equipment so they wanted to Charge for that , hoods etc. I looked and looked though. I will be using cuppone tiziano so electric, no need for a hood.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 16, 2021, 08:56:35 PM
One thing I'll mention that I have read about being an issue is the access to a commercial kitchen. Laws/codes vary by state. Ive seen some food trucks be their own commercial kitchen. And I've seen others use a friend's restaurant after hours for prep.

Just something to be aware of...

Good luck. You're doing something many of us have thought about doing.

Hey Jon! So my dad and I own a 7500 sq ft  commercial building in downtown Bardstown. Jim beam rents most of it, but we have about 700 square ft in the back they donít use. I was thinking of maybe taking 200 of that and making a small kitchen. If not that, luckily I have friends in the restaurant business here who have offered up their kitchen. I wonít have much to prep though.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Jon in Albany on July 16, 2021, 09:16:57 PM
Hey Jon! So my dad and I own a 7500 sq ft  commercial building in downtown Bardstown. Jim beam rents most of it, but we have about 700 square ft in the back they donít use. I was thinking of maybe taking 200 of that and making a small kitchen. If not that, luckily I have friends in the restaurant business here who have offered up their kitchen. I wonít have much to prep though.
Sounds like you have it covered. I've heard of a few people running out of space because they were working out of a friend's restaurant after hours.

Also, I can think of worse tenants. Do they pay rent in cash or product?  :)
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on July 16, 2021, 09:41:21 PM
Sounds like you have it covered. I've heard of a few people running out of space because they were working out of a friend's restaurant after hours.

Also, I can think of worse tenants. Do they pay rent in cash or product?  :)

lol in my mind I think I have it covered I know there will be plenty of surprises but trying to cover all my bases. Always gotta be on your toes though with the hospitality industry 

Haha Jim beam pays cash, itís just a collectibles store. They moved it from downtown Louisville to here. Lots and lots of bourbon to choose from in this town.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: theppgcowboy on July 22, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
What kind of pizza?
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Yael on July 23, 2021, 02:01:38 AM
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I plan to open only once a week, 25 dough balls, and once I'm out, I'm out. I have many contacts outside of my hometown as well, that own multiple types of businesses, hotels, wineries etc. I plan to utilize this too.  Probably going to do this on Friday nights from 4-8, and if all goes well possibly Saturdays. I own an insurance company, so that requires most of my time, thus I don't plan to do this for work, but more of a hobby/passion.
[...]

From my experience, it's hard to be half-invested in a business. One will eventually infringe on the other, and that can be bad for both.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: theppgcowboy on August 23, 2021, 04:06:00 PM
I am having trouble with a limit of just 25 dough balls. I blow through that many in 40 minutes when things get rocking, and there are just two of us running the trailer.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: foreplease on August 23, 2021, 11:30:49 PM
Congratulations and good luck. I will be interested in learning what it takes to meet the power requirements of that oven, as wll as the rst of your equipment. I had not heard of it before but it look like a great choice for what you will be doing. Interested in your ongoing story too.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Andrew t on August 31, 2021, 11:09:27 PM
Good luck. Sounds like you have a god plan. I do a side pizza operation to my regular restaurant gig as hobby.

One learning I had early on was-  I had planned to only do 25-30 per night once a week but found the set up/prep/clean up was better to do 2 nights twice a month. It meant more yield of the fun part for less effort on the not as fun part.

Andrew
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:00:30 PM
Been MIA but had my first day on Sunday, sold 30 pizzas, sold out!. Only plan to do 25-30 as I mentioned. We do have a craft beer festival this weekend, thinking of maybe doing 50. Will try to answers everyoneís questions. Just been busy with regular work and getting this all finished. I loved it though, lots of fun. Trailer is done but still needs to be wrapped.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:02:02 PM
Congratulations and good luck. I will be interested in learning what it takes to meet the power requirements of that oven, as wll as the rst of your equipment. I had not heard of it before but it look like a great choice for what you will be doing. Interested in your ongoing story too.


Haha the power requirements are crazy. 48 amp oven. We ended up hooking ina plug to back of our building so I have plenty of,power. We are right beside our farmers market so I have no plans of ever going off site. One plug for oven, separate one for all other electric.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
I am having trouble with a limit of just 25 dough balls. I blow through that many in 40 minutes when things get rocking, and there are just two of us running the trailer.

I understand this. This is just me cooking. Not trying to kill myself.  Few pizzas here and there, have some beers, and knock out 25-30 in a couple of hours and Im Happy. Once a week, itís all I want. I may do more if I wanted to hire others to help, but for now I have no interest in doing so.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
From my experience, it's hard to be half-invested in a business. One will eventually infringe on the other, and that can be bad for both.

True, this isnít the case for me though. I wonít lie I did put off my primary business to focus on getting this truck done for a week or so. But everything is back to normal. My primary business has a good staff and I have great customers. Iím able to step away anytime I need to. Again this is once a week for me, not motivated for money. If I lose on it, tax write off 😁
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:26:03 PM
Few pics of the inside. Need to update as they are a few weeks old
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: PC105105 on October 13, 2021, 08:32:43 PM
Few pictures from this weekend. I was so busy didnít hVe time to post pictures of pizzas except for one I made for myself to test the oven temps. As Always the first pie over  cooks so figured Iíd eat that one. This is much smaller than more normal size but I mis calculated on my dough balls.

Had a random visitor that had a Great Dane!

Pie is garlic cream, onion, bacon, spicy locally made Jakeís country spicy sausage (my cousin owns it, they sell in Kroger  now ), mozz, mushrooms and post bake rosemary

Also pictures of the first pie to ever come out of the oven from Friday night.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: scott r on October 13, 2021, 09:44:29 PM
Congrats on getting this up and running, but damn, especially on that first pizza pic.  It looks top shelf... you should be very proud!   I hope this is lots of fun for you. 
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Jon in Albany on October 13, 2021, 10:52:36 PM
Looks good!
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Yael on October 13, 2021, 11:24:39 PM
True, this isnít the case for me though. I wonít lie I did put off my primary business to focus on getting this truck done for a week or so. But everything is back to normal. My primary business has a good staff and I have great customers. Iím able to step away anytime I need to. Again this is once a week for me, not motivated for money. If I lose on it, tax write off 😁

I'm very glad to hear that! Everything looks good, enjoy  :D
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Dasnyde4 on October 14, 2021, 03:31:12 PM
Thanks so much for sharing!  How is your oven hooked into the trailer?  I have a Bakers Pride P44 in my house and would like to do a trailer for fun like you.  Do you have a generator that can push that kind of output?  Also curious on how hot it gets inside the trailer. 
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Quebert on October 14, 2021, 09:48:09 PM
NICE, I want to do something similar, no trailer but I'm prepping myself to have a few pizza nights with only 20-30 pizzas a week.  I doubt I could pull off 50-100, and even if I could I think that might burn me out from my love of making pizzas.  I want to make some cash and I want to make pizza and get peoples feedback.  Nothing like giving some fresh out a pizza oven pizza to someone who's only had the fast food chains.

J hope you keep killing it, the world needs more good pizza, and by your pics I'd say it at least looks like it's really good :D
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: scott r on October 15, 2021, 12:05:03 AM
I doubt I could pull off 50-100, and even if I could I think that might burn me out from my love of making pizzas.

I have made so many pizzas in the past 7 years between a food truck and two pizzerias I cant even imagine how to count that number.  Guess what.... im STILL playing around with different styles/dough formulations, experimenting and making pies for my family and friends at home all the time.   There is always something fun to do.  I wouldn't worry about making too many pizzas and loosing the love.  Go for it!!
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: theppgcowboy on October 15, 2021, 12:32:39 AM
I have made so many pizzas in the past 7 years between a food truck and two pizzerias I cant even imagine how to count that number.  Guess what.... im STILL playing around with different styles/dough formulations, experimenting and making pies for my family and friends at home all the time.   There is always something fun to do.  I wouldn't worry about making too many pizzas and loosing the love.  Go for it!!

Exactly Scott r, I just finished my last gig of the season 2 weeks ago, a brew fest with 271 pies. Just my girlfriend and I do the work. The smiles from the crowd and compliments do not get old. I had a lady this year tell us she was sure our culture was an authentic sour dough from Italy. I asked how she knew, she responded, you do not forget that flavor.
Title: Re: Pizza Trailer Business
Post by: Numerator on October 18, 2021, 11:27:47 PM
Can you post some recent screenshots of your rig?