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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2022, 02:16:44 AM »
And it has an L flame, wow lol.  As for the one you asked me about, sorry I didn't bookmark it, I did go back to try and find it.  But I'm not seeing it, the ones I am seeing aren't the same I found the other day.  I probably didn't look close enough and it was more different than I thought.  The ones I'm seeing now are pretty similar but clearly not just rebranded.

If it works, can't beat the price on the one you linked, but the description says 10-15 minutes to preheat to 932f which is definitely not true. My Koda took 25 minutes, would be epic if there was one that only took 10 or 15 for sure.  One other funny obviously lost in translation thing in the description, it says the pizza stones made of Silicon.

10-15 minutes is possible. Look at the stone. It is made of "silicon" or whatever but it's uber thin. It's definitely not cordierite


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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2022, 07:24:01 PM »
Just sprung for a Karu 16. Did a lot of research on it...I hope it works out :) Also ordered the natural gas burner attachment.

Are there any mods I should know about for this one? I know the Koda has a few mods people do, but haven't seen any for the Karu 16. Also....is it okay to launch a pizza into the Karu 16 with a wooden pizza peel at high temperatures, if I do it really quickly? Or do I absolutely need a metal peel?
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2022, 09:20:43 PM »
Just sprung for a Karu 16. Did a lot of research on it...I hope it works out :) Also ordered the natural gas burner attachment.

Are there any mods I should know about for this one? I know the Koda has a few mods people do, but haven't seen any for the Karu 16. Also....is it okay to launch a pizza into the Karu 16 with a wooden pizza peel at high temperatures, if I do it really quickly? Or do I absolutely need a metal peel?

lots of people use wooden peel with neapolitans. Some feel it sticks less than the perforated ones. Most of the mods are because of the koda's weird L shaped burner and lack of door. Karu doesn't have these issues

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2022, 10:19:30 PM »
lots of people use wooden peel with neapolitans. Some feel it sticks less than the perforated ones. Most of the mods are because of the koda's weird L shaped burner and lack of door. Karu doesn't have these issues

Do you own a Karu 16?

If so, I'm really interested in some pics, or better yet, vids to see yours in operation.

We all might learn from it before dishing out $800.
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2022, 10:46:28 PM »
Do you own a Karu 16?

If so, I'm really interested in some pics, or better yet, vids to see yours in operation.

We all might learn from it before dishing out $800.

I was reluctant to spend the money too--it turns out there's tons of great videos showing reviews and operatino of the oven on Youtube--just search for "karu 16".

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #85 on: February 26, 2022, 11:17:52 PM »
I was reluctant to spend the money too--it turns out there's tons of great videos showing reviews and operatino of the oven on Youtube--just search for "karu 16".

I know. Seen them

I'd like to see a video from Mosabrina, and his/hers assessment of the oven.

It'll be valuable to members here that consider buying one.
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #86 on: February 26, 2022, 11:37:57 PM »
I know. Seen them

I'd like to see a video from Mosabrina, and his/hers assessment of the oven.

It'll be valuable to members here that consider buying one.

Sorry I do not I have an ooni pro. I have ordered one but I haven't moved into my house yet so currently am not making pizza. I've seen enough that it looks good to me. I was going to order the gozney dome but it does not drop in green on march 1st so I ended up going with the karu.

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #87 on: February 27, 2022, 12:43:41 PM »
Sorry I do not I have an ooni pro. I have ordered one but I haven't moved into my house yet so currently am not making pizza. I've seen enough that it looks good to me. I was going to order the gozney dome but it does not drop in green on march 1st so I ended up going with the karu.

Let us know how it performs.
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2022, 04:27:28 PM »
I recently got a Karu 16 with gas attachment. Upgraded from the original Uuni so its a great update. So easy to just start and get going instead of messing around with pellets.  For the first time I did a cook with 10 pizza's and all worked out great. The only thing is that it might not get as hot as advertised, I get to 440C or so on the stone with the gas after 40 min or so. I did also get the perforated peel and that is pretty amazing too, slides like crazy.


Cannot wait for summer to start and will try wood too.

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #89 on: February 27, 2022, 07:11:50 PM »
I recently got a Karu 16 with gas attachment. Upgraded from the original Uuni so its a great update. So easy to just start and get going instead of messing around with pellets.  For the first time I did a cook with 10 pizza's and all worked out great. The only thing is that it might not get as hot as advertised, I get to 440C or so on the stone with the gas after 40 min or so.


I believe there is some variance with gas. On the gozney dome community some people hit over 550c with gas and some people cannot even hit 435c

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #90 on: February 27, 2022, 08:43:41 PM »
I know this info's probably in at least 1 YT video, but what "low and slow" temps does this oven actually hit? I know it's not 225-250f BBQ world low and slow.  I did ask Ooni on their official Karu 16 video if I could cook NY pizzas on the low setting without having to fiddle with anything like I have to on my Koda 12. And their answer seemed a little slick with the wording which made me wonder if they were hiding something. But then I thought about how the company's from overseas and English isn't their 1st language. So maybe the wording was just a lost in translation thing on their part.  I make far more NY's than Neo's and with my Koda & Roccbox, both definitely require adjusting the gas multiple times per pizza. Which is kind of annoying to me, Not to mention even on the lowest setting, both will still burn a pizza super quick lol.

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #91 on: February 27, 2022, 09:07:46 PM »
I am wondering this as well.
I said to my little one, "come here so I can change you".
He said "change only comes from within".  :-/

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2022, 10:48:55 AM »
I have a Karu 12 multi fuel.  have used it a few times with wood, once with coal, and now that i got gas attachement a few times with gas. 

Quite frankly, I hate this oven.  I also have a Camp Chef, Italia gas oven and it makes much better and consistent pizza. 

I will keep playing with playing with the Ooni, but I am tired of undercooked bottoms and over cooked tops...  I am not new to this and it is frustrating after trying many different cooking techniques and doughs

What I would love is a larger, gas oven with burners under the stone.  Since I mostly prefer NY style, it cooks the best that way.


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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2022, 10:50:19 AM »
Having the burner control at the rear of the oven...is stupid.  Cheap, but still stupid.


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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2022, 03:23:33 PM »
I know this info's probably in at least 1 YT video, but what "low and slow" temps does this oven actually hit? I know it's not 225-250f BBQ world low and slow.  I did ask Ooni on their official Karu 16 video if I could cook NY pizzas on the low setting without having to fiddle with anything like I have to on my Koda 12. And their answer seemed a little slick with the wording which made me wonder if they were hiding something. But then I thought about how the company's from overseas and English isn't their 1st language. So maybe the wording was just a lost in translation thing on their part.  I make far more NY's than Neo's and with my Koda & Roccbox, both definitely require adjusting the gas multiple times per pizza. Which is kind of annoying to me, Not to mention even on the lowest setting, both will still burn a pizza super quick lol.

Pretty sure ooni is the UK now and they have a great grasp of english. The low/slow is not smooth/even heat like a deck oven is. From what I've seen the floor doesn't seem to get as hot because there's no flame rolling over.

You would have to use gas and heat up the floor before turning it down. Probably more than you normally woudl since the stone is 15mm and the heat might be sucked out after a few mins.
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #95 on: February 28, 2022, 04:09:02 PM »
Pretty sure ooni is the UK now and they have a great grasp of english. The low/slow is not smooth/even heat like a deck oven is. From what I've seen the floor doesn't seem to get as hot because there's no flame rolling over.

You would have to use gas and heat up the floor before turning it down. Probably more than you normally woudl since the stone is 15mm and the heat might be sucked out after a few mins.

Good info, I can't even find anyone quoting an actual temp for the low setting. I know my Koda 12 was 700'ish, which is HOT for what I was trying to do. My Roccbox is about the same. So I have to wind up turning the flame off for 4 minutes and turning it back on the end for 2 minutes to get a NY that's not burnt on the crust.  I was hoping the Karu 16 you could set it lowest and it would be in a temp range I could cook an NY without messing with the knob.  But it sounds like this oven isn't much better than what I currently have for that though so maybe I'll avoid it.  I mean it does make 16" pizzas which is definitely way bigger than any Neo I've seen. So maybe it can be finessed and just takes a lot of pratice to get there.

I really wish somebody would make an outdoor propane oven that made NY's without work arounds and extra effort.

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2022, 08:19:20 PM »
I really wish somebody would make an outdoor propane oven that made NY's without work arounds and extra effort.

It is too early to be sure, but the Halo may be able to do that.   https://halo-pg.com/product/versa-16-outdoor-pizza-oven/
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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2022, 10:36:04 PM »
I really wish somebody would make an outdoor propane oven that made NY's without work arounds and extra effort.

It is too early to be sure, but the Halo may be able to do that.   https://halo-pg.com/product/versa-16-outdoor-pizza-oven/

What in the toast!  This is my 1st time seeing this but my interests are high, although it seems for only $499 you're getting too much.

16" pizza?
battery powered rotating stone?
dual flame with 1 under the stone?
the top's on a hinge and can be opened to clean the inside.





Video claims 12 minutes to reach 950f, that's pretty insane if accurate.   The stone looks it might be a little on the thin side, but could be replaced. And the pic with the hinge open, there's looks to be a decent amount of space between the stone and the flame.  That + it rotates this could be a 16" oven where you can actually make a full 16" pizza without being a semi wizard. Although I've never tried launching a 16" pizza, let alone doing it onto a round stone that's the same size, so that might actually require a good amount of skill lol. And it has a built in heat shield, I know the online Pizzaiolo tend to laugh at people who use them "they're not needed just pay attention" But since adding one to my Roccbox I'm doing better in not burning the crust.   I'm still trying to finish up my pizza street vendor idea, a rotating stone would be awesome, I know people like to use a turning peel so they feel more like an authentic Pizzaiolo. But would be great if I could launch a pizza and work on prepping a 2nd not even thinking about the 1st until it's done.

Also with the 2nd flame under the stone there's probably little to no waiting for the temp to come up between bakes. And it's IR instead of an actual flame which seems like it would work great to heat the stone from the bottom. And the motor uses a D battery so it should last a good while.

I guess it might look a little cheap next to a Roccbox, but for the price, if it delivers this will  be a damn sweet buy. Thank you for posting this, I'm very very interested now. The 5 year warranty's also damn nice.   

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2022, 11:52:39 PM »
What in the toast!  This is my 1st time seeing this but my interests are high, although it seems for only $499 you're getting too much.

16" pizza?
battery powered rotating stone?
dual flame with 1 under the stone?
the top's on a hinge and can be opened to clean the inside.





Video claims 12 minutes to reach 950f, that's pretty insane if accurate.   The stone looks it might be a little on the thin side, but could be replaced. And the pic with the hinge open, there's looks to be a decent amount of space between the stone and the flame.  That + it rotates this could be a 16" oven where you can actually make a full 16" pizza without being a semi wizard. Although I've never tried launching a 16" pizza, let alone doing it onto a round stone that's the same size, so that might actually require a good amount of skill lol. And it has a built in heat shield, I know the online Pizzaiolo tend to laugh at people who use them "they're not needed just pay attention" But since adding one to my Roccbox I'm doing better in not burning the crust.   I'm still trying to finish up my pizza street vendor idea, a rotating stone would be awesome, I know people like to use a turning peel so they feel more like an authentic Pizzaiolo. But would be great if I could launch a pizza and work on prepping a 2nd not even thinking about the 1st until it's done.

Also with the 2nd flame under the stone there's probably little to no waiting for the temp to come up between bakes. And it's IR instead of an actual flame which seems like it would work great to heat the stone from the bottom. And the motor uses a D battery so it should last a good while.

I guess it might look a little cheap next to a Roccbox, but for the price, if it delivers this will  be a damn sweet buy. Thank you for posting this, I'm very very interested now. The 5 year warranty's also damn nice.

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Re: New: Ooni Karu 16 Multi-Fuel Oven
« Reply #99 on: March 01, 2022, 07:07:28 AM »
That + it rotates this could be a 16" oven where you can actually make a full 16" pizza without being a semi wizard.

I am not a wizard, or even close, but find that unless there is something at the back that will stop the pizza, you need about an inch to and inch and a half of clearance on a rotating stone - so on a BS, with a 16 inch stone, about 14 1/2 is the max I can go - otherwise I launch too strong and part of the pie hangs off the stone at the back, or launch a little weak, and part of the pie is on the outer edge at the front. 
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