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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2022, 07:38:35 PM »
Because I know at least one person is bothered by the "Detroit Style" nomenclature used to describe this pizza, I have a few things to explain.

As evidenced by the use of round pans in one case, I'm not particularly dogmatic about the size or shape of the pan other than its greater depth when using the materials (e.g. dough, cheese) laid out in the thread, because I realize that not everyone has a traditional 8"×10" or 10"×14" pan. One could even have a 9"×13", and that's fine. It might bring comfort and restful nights for some to know I don't refer to a round pizza as Detroit Style though.

I know many people prefer a traditionally larger and rectangular pan, but I don't need that much leftover pizza sitting around.

I explicitly recognized that a rectangular pan is more traditional. And by that I meant a rectangular pan with an aspect ratio other than 1:1, as squares are also rectangles. Importantly, the pizza tastes exactly the same whether two corners are slightly closer together or all four are equidistant, so anyone making a Detroit Style pizza with four right angles parallel to its bottom has my full support.

When I baked the two 9" round variants to observe the difference in performance, I just ended up eating more pizza in one sitting than I really wanted to. In fact, I have been trying to transition from 14" to 12" rounds when a thicker crust is involved. That's why I don't like to use a larger pan.

Now for one of the reasons I don't use a smaller pan, such as 8"×10". My mixer, as most, performs better with more dough, so I try to mix a minimum of 360 g.

I prefer sauce on the dough rather than on the toppings after the bake.

I mentioned this in recognition of yet another Detroit Style tradition. Here are a few other traditions I'm not following:

- precooked tomato sauce
- steel automotive drip pan
- Wisconsin brick cheese
- pepperoni directly on the dough

Some commercial pizza operators will insist on a very thick crust, such as well over an inch. Some bake at temperatures below 450°F or above 650°F. Commercial operators don't all follow the same rulebook.

If anyone on this forum follows every one of those traditions or commercial preparations, more power to you. However, that doesn't qualify you as a gatekeeper.

Anyone can take what I have posted and follow it exactly, or they can just use what I expressly stated was critical for this pizza and use garage parts to bake their version and top it with precooked sauce. I can appreciate how the style originated and respect anyone who repurposes something that once held transmission fluid. That's extra Detroit.

The irony about the timing of this dissent is that I was going to make a sauceless version today or tomorrow because I only have enough for dipping or dollops and not enough for total coverage. Because of impending Independence Day fare, I have no need for more pizza sauce for a while.
The yeast flies south in November.

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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2022, 07:58:33 PM »
Due to my aforementioned shortage of sauce, and an unwillingness to make more so distant in time from my next pizza, this iteration excludes the sauce for the bake. All of it was just enough for a single slice served on the side.

Nothing else changed in the materials or methods.

This post includes pre-baked images. Two more posts including post-baked images will follow.
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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2022, 07:59:45 PM »
Baked.
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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2022, 08:00:16 PM »
Served.
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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2022, 06:59:04 PM »
Extra virgin olive oil (EVOO) in the dough, soybean (vegetable) oil on the dough, and rice bran oil on the pan.
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Re: Red November's Detroit Style - Servius
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2022, 10:05:33 AM »
Hello!!  I am trying this out today and had a quick question.  Understanding that all ovens are different, when you mention 550 at 8 minutes, is that 550 on convection or non-convection?  Looking forward to trying this recipe.  I adjusted for an 8x10 detroit pan and idy, otherwise the rest is as close to the original as I could get:

74.1% [125.74 g] bread flour (central milling high mountain)
25.9% [43.95 g] semolina (caputo)
64.8% [109.96 g] water
1.41% [2.40 g] granulated sugar
2.00% [3.39 g] kosher salt
1.62% [2.75 g] extra virgin olive oil
0.39% [0.65 g] instant dry yeast

170.22% [288.85 g] total

Happy New Year !!

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